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urrout |
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I know the editing may not have shown Eric was right but everyone should agree with Erik's statement. Eliza had a mouth open disbelief look to me, like an
"is she crazy" look. She's very animated with her facial expressions. Don't remember the others except Jason kept looking back at Ozzy.
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crocophile |
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I think I saw the jury doing this too |
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Trixiego |
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urrout it doesn't matter that everyone should agree with Erik's statement it is how the editors are portraying it and from what I recall at TC, they weren't.� Amanda spoke and Eliza's reaction (to me) was not she is crazy but more like oh my heck at what she was saying.� Parvati even gave a small nod and Erik was shown "looking" concerned as he looked at the jury and Jason was shown nodding and Eliza again was like oh boy. Here is the clip provided I don't lose it again |
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urrout |
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Only if you are analyzing the edit to find the possible winner but in real life what she said was ridiculous. She wanted him to give up his game for her and
since we didn't see her offer him a F3 deal, why should he? Yes, Eliza's expression like "oh my heck at what she was saying." which is more
or less what I said.
Amanda: "I mean there is so many people you have to vote out, you're gonna hurt someone's feelings in this game, it's inevitable" Guess it doesn''t apply to her feelings. |
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Relynn |
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urrout wrote: Amanda is playing the game. She decided to use the fact that she helped Erik out, in order to try to convince him to do what she wants. It doesn't mean though that in real life after the game is over she'd still be bitter about it. (It's a game and you use whatever leverage you can even the fact that "I helped you out earlier so you owe me this time) |
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urrout |
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But she shouldn't have done it at TC other than to maybe bring it up to show that she did try to save herself, not try to humiliate him the way she did.
Who cares about after the game? What matters is FTC when the jurors vote. Real players would not hold it against Erik and certainly would not think he had to
roll over for Amanda like she was claiming and should be disgusted by her comments. She came off a self entiltled b*tch. The only reason she looked good to
these jurors was because she had sympathetic jurors in Ozzy and James and Jason wanting to be in with Ozzy.
Which is why I quoted Amanda herself: "I mean there is so many people you have to vote out, you're gonna hurt someone's feelings in this game, it's inevitable" It was Erik's turn to hurt someone's feelings and she was just mad they they were hers. |
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Relynn |
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urrout wrote: It WAS STRATEGY to try to guilt Eric....Parv and Amanda talked about it. It doesn't mean that Amanda "really deep down believes he owes her.
And whose to say that Erik didn't say back then if you let me get past merge, I'll pay you back or something like that. He felt some obligation to
Ozzy, and Ozzy wasn't the only person who voted to keep him. It's strategy. Even if Amanda didn't really take it personally, she's still
going to try to use those personal feelings to stay in the game.
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I think Amanda's statements and "calling Eric out" were more a part of the ploy to give every indication that she was making her last ditch
effort to sway the vote in her favor. Come on... if she didn't have the HII in her back pocket, wouldn't she be doing exactly the same thing? Eliza
did, she called out Ozzy. We have to remember that Amanda didn't want to give a clue that she had the HII. And had she acted all resigned to leaving and
not put up a fight may have cast some doubt in the minds of the others before they voted. This is a pretty savy group and I can see them having a "Plan
B" in their pocket had any indication been given that Amanda had the HII. In acting angry and standing up for herself she said exactly what she would be
expected to say (by the tribe) if she was going home.
Amanda will mend her fences with Eric. I say give the lady an Oscar. |
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Trixiego |
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I say give the lady an Oscar.No pun intended eh rower? |
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sunflower101 |
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urrout wrote: She wanted Erik to look bad in front of the jury if he gets there. Survivor Juries usually tend to award the challenge winning alpha male. Erik is the only one that is left that fits into that role. With 2/3 tribal councils left it was very possible for Erik to get himself to the end based on immunity wins.
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Jack Tourette |
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I just seen a commerical on CBS saying "DO NOT MISS THE MOST SHOCKING TRIBAL COUNCIL EVER".....
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urrout |
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Relynn wrote: No, it says Amanda is a self entitled moron who can't handle losing. It wasn't strategic the way she did it. If the jury thinks it was then they suck at the game. She looked bad not Eric. Simply bringing up that Erik wouldn't side with her would have been better. They would have shown Eric saying that to back up Amanda if it were true. Erik voted to save Ozzy which included Amanda. How many times should Erik have to pay her back? And what about Cirie, wouldn't Erik owe Cirie too? Someone had to go and Amanda was Erik's best choice to help himself and the way Amanda acted towards Erik made it appear she didn't understand that..
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birdlady |
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What we see is a teeny teeny edited snip of whatever happened at tribal council, with reactions from who knows what pasted in. What the jury sees is the whole
tribal council, including people's actual reactions.
I wouldn't be surprised if that little exchange was just to set up whatever happens this week. |
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tvfunspotter |
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urrout wrote: I watched the show and it appeared to me the editors of the show wanted to show Amanda playing strategically by calling Erik out for him not siding with
her. The shot of Eliza appeared to me that she was indeed understanding and going along with exactly what Amanda was saying. I also think the editors showed
us the portion of the Parvati/Amanda conversation to lead up to the whole strategy she had in making everyone believe she didn't have the idol. She
didn't go crazy and try to sway him like her life depended on it back at camp from what we saw, thus the whole calling him out at tribal was shown to us by
the editors as part of the ruse. I am not sure why you took it so personally because on Alexis' blog she said that Erik went out to California to visit
and they went out to dinner with Ozzy/Amanda.
I don't think anyone really believed that Erik owed either Amanda or Cirie anything - the whole point is that it was an angle she could work and she tried and he didn't budge, so she had to go with the Idol. |
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Jack Tourette wrote: Hopefully it's something never seen before like a shocking blindside, or someone not using the immunity idol, or someone making a deal to be safe only
to have it broken at the last minute, or someone quitting, or someone acting self-important and cocky only to be voted off, or someone....
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kennethp21 |
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^^ dont expect too much.
2 years ago, Dan the Astronaut's boot was promoted as the most shocking tribal council, seriously ETA: btw, you're actually right. I mean they'd been saying it was going to be blindsides for the 3 previous episodes. and they turned out to be true. So I dun see they're hyping this week's episode if it's gonna turn out otherwise
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survivorscanner |
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also why they showed us what amanda did to eric maybe is because in the previews the deals he says he gets he tries to make it up to amanda and gets played
this episode?
trixiego ~ v for favorites? i'm confused how they know who won but i'm just gonna wait for them to post the solutions. |
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shoeless rye |
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urrout wrote: Not a chance. Because Amanda knew she had the idol and was going nowhere, thus she wasn't losing the game. She had to play everybody to make sure
they bought she was fighting for her life within the game. If she acted any differently, as has been mentioned, Alexis, Erik and Natalie might have went to
plan B, which could have booted Cirie or Parvati while outing the idol as Amanda would have played it thinking she was going home.
Of course the argument was ridiculous, as Erik could point out that he wasn't kept around for any other reason as he was deemed less of a threat to Ozzy
and Amanda than Ami was. Amanda was supposed to be playing the desperate player using every last angle to stay.
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Trixiego |
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survivorscanner wrote: Yes "V" for favorites. Why are you confused? VG is a spoiler, she gets information. No one is saying that this is about who wins but who is in
the finals (meaning all favorites as opposed to any fans which some people thought at the time when this clue was posted; namely Alexis was a popular belief)
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jessiiiek |
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trixiego ~ I am confused because I found this Vidcap, clearly about the F2, and I need your clue that you got from Vg (since you're his faVourite) to
decipher it.
thanks in adVance
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