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GrenadeJumper85		#1061	[-]
Posts: 4590 (05/04/08 12:16 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	That's what I meant. Of course I know she's not sliding through, this is Cirie we're talking about here.
Katy Carney		#1062	[-]
Posts: 1050 (05/04/08 12:30 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	urrout wrote: I don't remember that but if you say so. I remember Ozzy and Chet being the targets. Jonathan is just speculation. There would have been at least 3 bigger targets before Cirie. Cirie was the first person Ami mentioned when she made her alliance with the fans. She said she would be happy to vote out Cirie. They also considered Ozzy, but later said they wouldn't have done that because they would lose all the challenges.
The Marquesan Godfather		#1063	[-]
Posts: 10674 (05/04/08 12:59 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	All this talk about injuries and quitters helping Cirie and Parv is nonsense. OUTLAST is apart of the game just as much as OUTPLAY and OUTWIT are.
Relynn		#1064	[-]
Posts: 463 (05/04/08 1:06 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The Marquesan Godfather wrote: All this talk about injuries and quitters helping Cirie and Parv is nonsense. OUTLAST is apart of the game just as much as OUTPLAY and OUTWIT are. Sure, but so the HI is part of the game too but you have people here that are saying Amanda's undeserving because of it.
The Marquesan Godfather		#1065	[-]
Posts: 10675 (05/04/08 1:19 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Amanda played the HII correctly. Ozzy and Jason did not.
Katy Carney		#1066	[-]
Posts: 1051 (05/04/08 1:27 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The Marquesan Godfather wrote: All this talk about injuries and quitters helping Cirie and Parv is nonsense. OUTLAST is apart of the game just as much as OUTPLAY and OUTWIT are. I don't think it means anything at all. Everyone that has ever played the game has been affected by things that they couldn't control, both positive and negative. It doesn't mean that Cirie, Parvati or Amanda are any less effective.
kenc333		#1067	[-]
Posts: 1524 (05/04/08 1:41 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Finding and playing a HII properly to save yourself at tribal council is just like winning an immunity challenge, except it's probably more difficult. So Amanda definitely did not slide into anything, and deserves all the praise she gets.
urrout		#1068	[-]
Posts: 1610 (05/04/08 2:32 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Except immunity is up for grabs by all but the HII is only available to a select few lucky enough to be sent to the EI. My point is Amanda needed to find the HII in order to stay in the game. She wasn't able to convince anybody to help her which is a major flaw in her strategy. She made herself a big jury threat. It is too early in the game for immunity to be your only way to survive, imo. The only way Parvati should lose to Amanda if she doesn't own up to her moves. She didn't with James when she booted Ozzy and that is why he was mad, not because she actually booted Ozzy. He said it was a good move. Amanda has no real moves to claim other than aligning with P/C. Only if Parvati blows FTC like Amanda did in China, then she loses, imo. These are supposed to fans of survivor, they should understand it's the game and not take it personally.
kenc333		#1069	[-]
Posts: 1527 (05/04/08 2:36 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Anyone can be sent to exile island. Therefore, the idol is up for grabs for everyone.
GrenadeJumper85		#1070	[-]
Posts: 4591 (05/04/08 2:39 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	My point is Amanda needed to find the HII in order to stay in the game. That's a great reason. Not that I'm trying to downplay Amanda's move, I'm not doing that in the least, but if finding the HII is your only way of staying in the game, then you weren't playing a great game to begin with. Same can be said about regular immunity. You may get to the end winning challenges, but what did you do other then that that makes you better then the person sitting next to you, who probably never won any challenges and was never in danger because of the way were positioned. Anyone can be sent to exile island. Therefore, the idol is up for grabs for everyone. Well, that's true for this season, but not for the past couple of seasons. Even though it didn't happen, if you're stuck on the tribe that wins all the immunity challenges (not that it's a bad thing) you never get the chance to go. That ups the chances of someone on the opposing tribe, and come merge more then likely the opposing alliance, finding it. Last Edited By: GrenadeJumper85 05/04/08 2:42 PM. Edited 2 times.
birdlady		#1071	[-]
Posts: 1247 (05/04/08 2:45 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Except immunity is up for grabs by all but the HII is only available to a select few lucky enough to be sent to the EI. Or gutsy enough to volunteer to go, and smart enough to manuever themselves into a position where it was a possibility. Reality TV World: It looked as though Amanda volunteered to go to Exile Island after last night's Reward Challenge, and you granted her wish by sending her out there. Is there a reason why you didn't send Natalie since it seemingly would have been a better strategic move? Alexis: It probably would have been a better strategic move, but we actually talked about it. I was in an alliance with Amanda, so I thought sending her to Exile was a smart move. It was a given that if I won [the Reward Challenge] that Natalie was going with me because the family visit day is hands-down the best Reward. We've been so deprived of seeing our loved ones. So I knew that, and I kind of made a deal during the challenge with Cirie that if she didn't cut my chord than I would take her with me. So I took her Cirie ended up in a sweet position where she got to have it both ways. But apparently Alexis and Natalie intentionally chose a day with their loved one over a chance at the idol.
urrout		#1072	[-]
Posts: 1611 (05/04/08 2:53 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	James was still in the game. There were 2 targets ahead of Amanda at the time Alexis sent ther to EI. Whoever doesn't win immunity is sent home. It wasn't a bad move especially since Amanda volunteered so no hard feelings were created. It only became a bad move when James was evacuated and Eric won immunity. James being evacuated helped Amanda because if Eric had still won immunity then Amanda would have had a decision to make, boot James or find a way to save him. She hasn't had to make any real decisions yet like Cirie and Parvati have. I wonder what she would have done. Last Edited By: urrout 05/04/08 3:05 PM. Edited 1 times.
kenc333		#1073	[-]
Posts: 1529 (05/04/08 3:08 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't think that the HII was Amanda's only hope of staying in the game. Cirie's not stupid. She would see that if she voted with the fans, then it'd be Alexis, Erik, Natalie, Parvati and herself as the F5, with Parvati and Cirie looking to be voted out next. And based on Parvati's closeness with Alexis/Natalie, Cirie would probably be voted off first. She would know that forcing a tie at the F6 would give her a better chance to get to the F3, so that she doesn't end up in 4th or 5th. This was pretty much the exact same scenario Denise was in at the F6 in China, except that she was alligned with the majority. Cirie/Amanda/Parvati probably could have also kept working to sway one of the fans over to their side to gain the advantage at the F6, then dispose of them 2 TC's later.
Relynn		#1074	[-]
Posts: 466 (05/04/08 3:13 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	GrenadeJumper85 wrote: My point is Amanda needed to find the HII in order to stay in the game. That's a great reason. Not that I'm trying to downplay Amanda's move, I'm not doing that in the least, but if finding the HII is your only way of staying in the game, then you weren't playing a great game to begin with. Same can be said about regular immunity. You may get to the end winning challenges, but what did you do other then that that makes you better then the person sitting next to you, who probably never won any challenges and was never in danger because of the way were positioned. Anyone can be sent to exile island. Therefore, the idol is up for grabs for everyone. Well, that's true for this season, but not for the past couple of seasons. Even though it didn't happen, if you're stuck on the tribe that wins all the immunity challenges (not that it's a bad thing) you never get the chance to go. That ups the chances of someone on the opposing tribe, and come merge more then likely the opposing alliance, finding it. Amanda volunteered to go others didn't volunteer. They were more about getting to go on the Reward. And the thing is a lot of great players have for whatever reason needed immunity/Hidden immuntiy idol. Yul being one of them.
urrout		#1075	[-]
Posts: 1612 (05/04/08 3:29 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Relynn wrote: Amanda volunteered to go others didn't volunteer. They were more about getting to go on the Reward. And the thing is a lot of great players have for whatever reason needed immunity/Hidden immuntiy idol. Yul being one of them. We only saw Amanda volunteer but I bet Eric and James had their hands up too. Alexis' only choices were Amanda or Parvati and Parvati didn't volunteer as far as we know. I know I am probably in the minority but I don't consider Yul a great player. He hid behind the HII and the others were wimps not to force him to play it especially at the merge. He would not have survived long without it. Different than when Terry had it, he kept winning immunity too.
Relynn		#1076	[-]
Posts: 467 (05/04/08 3:38 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	urrout wrote: Relynn wrote: Amanda volunteered to go others didn't volunteer. They were more about getting to go on the Reward. And the thing is a lot of great players have for whatever reason needed immunity/Hidden immuntiy idol. Yul being one of them. We only saw Amanda volunteer but I bet Eric and James had their hands up too. Alexis' only choices were Amanda or Parvati and Parvati didn't volunteer as far as we know. I know I am probably in the minority but I don't consider Yul a great player. He hid behind the HII and the others were wimps not to force him to play it especially at the merge. He would not have survived long without it. Different than when Terry had it, he kept winning immunity too. Was Amanda lucky sure, but she had some bad luck. If Erik had lost immunity, he would have been vote out and her/;Parv/Cirie would have had control. Amanda has the record for longest running Survivor without a vote (she hadn't receive a vote in either season until this episode) Heck, her name wasn't even coming up...She had some luck sure, but everyone has had luck.
urrout		#1077	[-]
Posts: 1613 (05/04/08 3:47 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Relynn wrote: Was Amanda lucky sure, but she had some bad luck. If Erik had lost immunity, he would have been vote out and her/;Parv/Cirie would have had control. Amanda has the record for longest running Survivor without a vote (she hadn't receive a vote in either season until this episode) Heck, her name wasn't even coming up...She had some luck sure, but everyone has had luck. Again my point is Amanda needed to win immunity to survive. She had no other strategy. Amanda was unlucky too because she would have had the HII next TC if James wasn't evacuated therefore moving her up on the bootlist. But that still doesn't void the fact that she needed immunity to survive.
crocophile		#1078	[-]
Posts: 9887 (05/04/08 4:39 PM) MESS Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Or that she played the HI brilliantly.
ProbstFan123		#1079	[-]
Posts: 10089 (05/04/08 4:40 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	She played it the way it's supposed to be played, but I guess this season that would qualify as brilliant.
ProbstFan123		#1080	[-]
Posts: 10090 (05/04/08 4:48 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Not all of us have to work a minimum wage job at the Burger King drive-thru like you, Serena. It gives us more free time to post at Sucks. Some of us actually have an education and a well paying job. :)

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