S-16 Edgic (editing and logic)

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astroline		#5581	[-]
Posts: 1313 (08/28/08 1:49 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	OnlyTheHunter wrote: A few did want to make a case for her late, and memorably did. Me! That was a really good post, OTH. I agree with everything you said, you put it all into a good perspective, especially the parallels between Parvati & Chris.
Kitty Pryde1		#5582	[-]
Posts: 5401 (08/28/08 2:07 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	craig wrote: My suggestion is to leave the Watchdog assignments until after the season has begun. If any character seems to fit the Chris situation, we can ask for a volunteer at that point. The best way to avoid being blindsided by a Chris situation is to cultivate an anti-groupthink mentality and be respectful of minority opinion - not try to dismiss it with cries of "you must be biased, or reading spoilers, or you're obviously out to lunch." Back in S9 we'd just had several UTR\MOR winners (like Scout), we'd seen several CP males lose in a row (Rob C, Rob M), we'd seen some winners with negattivity (like Eliza, Twila), and we'd never lean the Complex tribe lose to a lone person. Generals are always in danger of misapplying or too rigidly applying the lessons of the last war. And thanks to Danni, we always have Alexises and Amandas that get on the potential winners list.
cantthinkofaname		#5583	[-]
Posts: 1195 (08/28/08 2:50 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kitty Pryde1 wrote: craig wrote: My suggestion is to leave the Watchdog assignments until after the season has begun. If any character seems to fit the Chris situation, we can ask for a volunteer at that point. The best way to avoid being blindsided by a Chris situation is to cultivate an anti-groupthink mentality and be respectful of minority opinion - not try to dismiss it with cries of "you must be biased, or reading spoilers, or you're obviously out to lunch." Back in S9 we'd just had several UTR\MOR winners (like Scout), we'd seen several CP males lose in a row (Rob C, Rob M), we'd seen some winners with negattivity (like Eliza, Twila), and we'd never lean the Complex tribe lose to a lone person. Generals are always in danger of misapplying or too rigidly applying the lessons of the last war. And thanks to Danni, we always have Alexises and Amandas that get on the potential winners list. I still don't get why, Amanda started with an UTR1 and had an INV, and Alexis had several UTR1s in a row.
Kitty Pryde1		#5584	[-]
Posts: 5402 (08/28/08 2:58 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I meant China Amanda, not Micronesia Amanda.
OnlyTheHunter		#5585	[-]
Posts: 1590 (08/28/08 3:02 PM) Edgician Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Hey Astro, at least I didn't name names! I just thought of you! :-) I hope, hope, hope someone can take over for Chaperone. It about the one job (other than calcualting V numbers, death = me + math) that I don't feel I could do, though I've thought about asking him. I have enough trouble now getting an FTP server to work, I swear it was easier 5 years ago. Can anyone step up? Please? I'll send you a Marvel Comics classic "no-prize" and a copy of my first album. (Not actually kidding on part two, I recorded some of my songs, decided to make it into an album, and am just waiting on them to go live in iTunes so I can show off how badly I sound. It was what I've been doing this past month while getting over being kidless and in a crappy mood all the time. They are already on Napster and other online services, and I pressed a few real CD's, but iTunes takes a lot longer to complete.) Michael
chaperone		#5586	[-]
Posts: 2530 (08/28/08 9:56 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	...nm... Last Edited By: chaperone 08/28/08 10:06 PM. Edited 1 times.
cantthinkofaname		#5587	[-]
Posts: 1196 (08/28/08 10:41 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kitty Pryde1 wrote: I meant China Amanda, not Micronesia Amanda. Ok, well Amanda in China was understandable, but Alexis? At the beginning yes, but after she got UTR1 for the 2nd or 3rd time in a row, no. Danni had much more than Alexis.
cindidindi76		#5588	[-]
Posts: 12147 (08/29/08 7:04 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Belated congrats, chap! He's beautiful!
RageBot		#5589	[-]
Posts: 130 (08/29/08 7:40 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well, I don't mind being a watchdog, whether it's random or not. Even though i'm pretty new on edgic (micronesia was my first season) I posted my ratings on probably all of the episodes (well, not on the first three since I didn't find this thread) and I really like the concept. Also, regarding the voting site, last season I asked several times what is the site and how do I vote there. None replied
astroline		#5590	[-]
Posts: 1324 (08/30/08 11:53 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	RageBot, that's exactly why. Since Micro was your first season giving ratings, the voting site wasn't given to you yet because the system is made to make sure that you have a good handle on everything before you're able to vote on the site. I'm sure you'd be able to get access for this upcoming season though, since you proved yourself last time!
Apollo Italiano		#5591	[-]
Posts: 198 (08/30/08 1:41 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	First off, congratulations, chap! There's nothing as beautiful as the introduction of a new life. Secondly, I'm just popping in to say that I'm prepped and excited for Gabon and edgic. I'll be posting (and hopefully) submitting ratings all season again, so I guess this is my warm-up post after a summer long break.
unduli clone		#5592	[-]
Posts: 2977 (08/30/08 2:19 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yay, new season! I'll be posting ratings and trying to get online long enough to champion my pick, but definitely not watchdogging. And I agree that we really shouldn't have watchdogs anymore, honestly...
Dictatorship		#5593	[-]
Posts: 3516 (08/30/08 2:30 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	unduli clone wrote: Yay, new season! I'll be posting ratings and trying to get online long enough to champion my pick, but definitely not watchdogging. And I agree that we really shouldn't have watchdogs anymore, honestly... Same. I'm unfamiliar with the website voting because I've only done it a few times and lost the link though.
mfrimley		#5594	[-]
Posts: 783 (08/30/08 7:39 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Riliss wrote: Hey guys, Craig, Oo, and ILT emailed me a preview of their episode 1 edgic ratings! I tried to avoid reprinting any potential spoilers they included in the email, since they'll pretend to not know them when the final draft of their ratings come out. Enjoy! Kelly - CPP4 - I know that her head bob during the opening credits seems insignificant, but think back on both Tina and Parvati's intro shots. Didn't both of those intro shots feature pictures of Tina and Parvati? I believe the evidence speaks for itself. Also, Kelly's scene after the immunity challenge when she pulled the bikini out of her ass signals to me and my braintrust that she's going to make it 'all the way to the end.' Those editors will never fool us with their metaphoric editing. Papilloma- CPPP5 - Now, a lot of you are going to say, "But Craig/ILT/Oo, she only had one line and that was when Jeff asked her name." It's true - but pull your heads out of your asses people! There's never been a more memorable reaction shot and response than the way she powerfully, yet innocently (like a sweet, ripe 11 year old girl) said back to Jeff, "Paloma." That along with the cymbol crash when Randy told her to go fuck herself signals winner to me. Crystal - UTRN1 - Did we really need a five minute conversation between her and that other darkie about whatever the fuck it was they were talking about? Probably afro picks or fried chicken. Either way she obviously won't win. Total whore. Michelle - OTTP3 - Her ADORABLE five minute chat with Ace about his hairstyle and mayonaise recipie was nothing short of epic. Her sweet, ripe, eleven year old features along with her brilliant wit and vast world experience make her one to watch. Are you insinuating something here?
AndreSurvivor		#5595	[-]
Posts: 187 (09/02/08 7:13 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I also fell asleep on the job last season, but I was watchdogging Chet. Chet. After the first few episodes of being Jeff's punching bag as well as the challenge loser, he was dead in the water. I love edgic and will participate every week, but I can't be a WD anymore. :)
tropical rain		#5596	[-]
Posts: 90 (09/02/08 4:41 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Though I would really like to watchdog, I'd probably be bad at it. I've only done edgic stuff with the fanfics made by guatemala fanfic and island sun, and that's probably different from the real show. Plus I don't know if I have the time. If the majority of potential watchdogs posting here don't have a lot of history determining edgic or the time needed, I'd say no watchdogs. ...And watchdogging Chet must have really sucked.
fat little fingers		#5597	[-]
Posts: 5561 (09/02/08 9:20 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Are individual watchdogs still relevant to Edgic? I personally don't think so, but how do others see it? (Tie-break watchdogs are still a necessity.)
Oowatanite		#5598	[-]
Posts: 5622 (09/02/08 9:32 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm sensing from the posts that there is very limited interest in being player watchdogs and I would agree that we don't need these PDs anymore. I would favour getting rid of the watchdogs, have everyone give ratings and comments on the episodes and a group of five veteran unbiased edgicers will settle the close calls. Warrior, flf, OTH, beatles and chaperone would be excellent candidates for this. Everyone can throw their two cents into the close call discussion but these five edgicers would have the final call.
Trixiego		#5599	[-]
Posts: 15146 (09/03/08 5:44 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	flf, I need you............did you really think after my beautiful China hat, I'd let you slide so easily for Gabon? :smooch
craig		#5600	[-]
Posts: 13845 (09/03/08 2:44 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	and a group of five veteran unbiased edgicers will settle the close calls. Nobody here is purely unbiased, though some are less biased or biased less often than others. If we don't have a voting site, we will need to simplify things. Player WDs are a complication with little added benefit. We might also consider eliminating the confusing M rating, and having visibility determined by Warrior's chart (or the chart plus borderline cases being decided by vote). The chart is in some ways flawed as a measure of visibility, since it only counts the spoken word, but most people just vote the chart anyway, so why bother? PS: I'm happy to go out on top, as the last Player WD to have their player win. :)

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