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Jedijake

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(05/10/08 7:23 PM)

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2-3 or not 2-3. 'Tis the question.

Okay, that was bad lol.

It's assumed that if it's a final 3 then Natalie's out in 4th place. However, what if Nat wins immunity? I don't like the way that even computes.

Something isn't sitting right this season. Either that or something is sitting TOO right this season. Were we handed the final 3? What's the deal?

I'd say with a final 3 and 7 jurors, for Parvati to win, she'd get 3 votes while the other two get 2 each.

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realistically ... if cirie landed in the final 3 ... i don't see the producers deciding to go with a final 2 ... knowing full well cirie could win and therefore please all of america

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The vote could very well be 3-2-2. Jeff said it was close. A jury of 8 just seems strange to me.

I'd say with a final 3 and 7 jurors, for Parvati to win, she'd get 3 votes while the other two get 2 each.

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Honestly, I want Cirie to win and I think parvati will win, but if itis a F3 and the vote ends up 3-2-2, I will be happy. That would be a great FTC and vote reveal. I could see it now. Jeff: "Amanda, Paravti and Cirie you each have 2 votes. All you need is one more vote to win and there is one vote left. I'll read the vote. The winner of Survivor: Fans vs. Favorites is......"

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By the way, why would they make it a final 2 just because they had a schedule? I mean, do they really want to do one extra challenge THAT badly?

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something i just realized. in most spoilers it states that the immunity challenge for the finale is that perch thing resembling from survivor panama. but there is no spoiler for the reward challenge. wat if that is the reward challenge and not the immunity challenge. remember that alot of the spoiler is based on that the final immunity is endurance and that challenge is not endurance. there is a final 4 reward challenge and i think the perch one that there is photos of is it. i think there is a final 4 endurance and that the final 3 face the jury. i do believe however that cirie comes in 3rd with the jury vote and she breaks the 3-3-1 tie between amanda and parvati

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By the way, why would they make it a final 2 just because they had a schedule? I mean, do they really want to do one extra challenge THAT badly?

Yeah, they had a schedule! I mean, James really messed them up when he left without an IC or TC for him!

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Well Cirie didn't seem to mind the players getting hurt as she said it was good for her game - A wise Survivor once said Karma is a bizzle (or something like that).

Regarding the first episode confessionals - How many did James have? Given that Amanda was F3 in the previous season, they really didn't need to reintroduce her like the did the other faves.

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jessiiiek wrote:

By the way, why would they make it a final 2 just because they had a schedule? I mean, do they really want to do one extra challenge THAT badly?

Yeah, they had a schedule! I mean, James really messed them up when he left without an IC or TC for him!

Are you confirming f2? I already believe it but just so we can have all the incessent bickering about f3 finished...

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shoeless rye wrote:
Well Cirie didn't seem to mind the players getting hurt as she said it was good for her game - A wise Survivor once said Karma is a bizzle (or something like that).

Regarding the first episode confessionals - How many did James have? Given that Amanda was F3 in the previous season, they really didn't need to reintroduce her like the did the other faves.

James had more than Amanda. (But not much) but honsetly Amanda's edit in the first episode was interesting because she was the only Survivor who didn't have a confessional in Episode One. However, she was also the only Survivor who was given a strategic clip for her introduction to (the James boot)

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By the way, why would they make it a final 2 just because they had a schedule? I mean, do they really want to do one extra challenge THAT badly?

It does cost them money.

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Jacare15 wrote:

By the way, why would they make it a final 2 just because they had a schedule? I mean, do they really want to do one extra challenge THAT badly?

It does cost them money.

Plus, legally if the challenge is planned they may be required to do it. I think they decided Final 2, after the James left, and they can't change it again just because they want Cirie in the finals.

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What about a F3, obvious because the jury started at 10 instead of 9, being planned and then changing to a F2? If the game doesn't follow the schedule because of unfortunate circumstances like James' injury then challenges could probably be eliminated otherwise why not just throw in a couple of extra rewards where the prize is chips and beer, They've had them before.

The only way Amanda gets to the F2 or F3 is if she wins immunity. They have all proven themselves to be good players and there is no way they would take someone who is guaranteed 2 votes especially when these 2 votes would be influential to many of the other jurors.

Even if Amanda makes a deal with Parvati and lets Parvati have immunity, unless Parvati is willing to give up $900,000 to an almost complete stranger, she boots Amanda. Cirie will be sure to tell her that and we know how convincing Cirie can be. Not everyone is as dumb as Colby.

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I'm still really confused about the whole idea of the final 2. How is that going to work, when you have 8 jury members?

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Relynn wrote:

Jacare15 wrote:

By the way, why would they make it a final 2 just because they had a schedule? I mean, do they really want to do one extra challenge THAT badly?

It does cost them money.

Plus, legally if the challenge is planned they may be required to do it. I think they decided Final 2, after the James left, and they can't change it again just because they want Cirie in the finals.

Yeah I thought so too. Just like the double boot episodes were scrapped after the injuries, the end game could have been altered also.

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LKMOSCAR wrote:

maxmartin33 wrote:
No sure how accurate they are, but this is from TV Guide

Episode Detail: Stir the Pot! - Survivor: Micronesia---Fans vs. Favorites

The last immunity challenge and tribal council are held. Later, the finalists are questioned by the jury members, who vote for the winner. Jeff Probst is the host.

link to TV guide preview
Also posted over at SP

My only hope left lies with this and Cirie's confessional total.

Why are you acting as if Cirie will definitely win if she's in front of the jury? She ain't winning a vote with this crew. The only person who would vote for her is Eliza.

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It's a final 3 until I read otherwise in the play by play of tomorrow's episode. That's all! TV GUIDE, HOLD TRUE!!!!!!

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CSCin3D wrote:

LKMOSCAR wrote:

maxmartin33 wrote:
No sure how accurate they are, but this is from TV Guide

Episode Detail: Stir the Pot! - Survivor: Micronesia---Fans vs. Favorites

The last immunity challenge and tribal council are held. Later, the finalists are questioned by the jury members, who vote for the winner. Jeff Probst is the host.

link to TV guide preview
Also posted over at SP

My only hope left lies with this and Cirie's confessional total.

Why are you acting as if Cirie will definitely win if she's in front of the jury? She ain't winning a vote with this crew. The only person who would vote for her is Eliza.

Why are you acting as if she won't win with this crew?

Cirie - Eliza, Jason, Erik
Amanda - Ozzy, James
Parvati - Alexis (though I could see her voting for Cirie), Natalie.

Cirie wins in either a 3-2-2 vote or a 4-2-1 vote.

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LKMOSCAR wrote:

CSCin3D wrote:

LKMOSCAR wrote:

maxmartin33 wrote:
No sure how accurate they are, but this is from TV Guide

Episode Detail: Stir the Pot! - Survivor: Micronesia---Fans vs. Favorites

The last immunity challenge and tribal council are held. Later, the finalists are questioned by the jury members, who vote for the winner. Jeff Probst is the host.

link to TV guide preview
Also posted over at SP

My only hope left lies with this and Cirie's confessional total.

Why are you acting as if Cirie will definitely win if she's in front of the jury? She ain't winning a vote with this crew. The only person who would vote for her is Eliza.

Why are you acting as if she won't win with this crew?

Cirie - Eliza, Jason, Erik
Amanda - Ozzy, James
Parvati - Alexis (though I could see her voting for Cirie), Natalie.

Cirie wins in either a 3-2-2 vote or a 4-2-1 vote.

I also thought of this vote before, in terms of F3. That's why I said over and over again that Cirie has so much of a chance on a F3. But if Parvati is winning, it should be a F2. Because I don't think Parvati can win with Amanda and Cirie sitting beside her at the final TC. And, I think maybe one or two or maybe all of Alexis, Jason or Erik can vote for Amanda. That's is what I'm hoping because I want Amanda to win..

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LKMOSCAR, Jason votes for PARVATI. Ugh, did you not read that interview that's IN THIS FORUM? Parvati has three guaranteed votes (Jason/Alexis/Natalie) while Amanda has two (Ozzy/James). That puts Cirie entirely out of contention. She will get Eliza's vote, no doubt. Eliza dislikes Amanda (another interview, bonus footage) and can avoid voting for her nemesis, Parvati, by voting for someone who went down practically the same gamepath. Only vote up in the air is Erik's. With Cirie out of contention, her "stir the pot" quote from Panama doesn't add up. It best fits Parvati who not only already said such a quote but alongside her guaranteed voters, Alexis/Natalie. The clues are all there, it completely adds up. If it's a F2, Cirie is completely done and she votes for Parvati, making this a potential 6-2 landslide in her favor or at least a 5-3. The only way the numbers don't add up for Parvati are if Eliza/Jason were lying to us in their post-game interviews which I sincerely doubt especially because the latter gave away the fact that Alexis/Natalie don't pull through to the end.

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SurvivorSurvivorSurvivor wrote:
LKMOSCAR, Jason votes for PARVATI. Ugh, did you not read that interview that's IN THIS FORUM? Parvati has three guaranteed votes (Jason/Alexis/Natalie) while Amanda has two (Ozzy/James). That puts Cirie entirely out of contention. She will get Eliza's vote, no doubt. Eliza dislikes Amanda (another interview, bonus footage) and can avoid voting for her nemesis, Parvati, by voting for someone who went down practically the same gamepath. Only vote up in the air is Erik's. With Cirie out of contention, her "stir the pot" quote from Panama doesn't add up. It best fits Parvati who not only already said such a quote but alongside her guaranteed voters, Alexis/Natalie. The clues are all there, it completely adds up. If it's a F2, Cirie is completely done and she votes for Parvati, making this a potential 6-2 landslide in her favor or at least a 5-3. The only way the numbers don't add up for Parvati are if Eliza/Jason were lying to us in their post-game interviews which I sincerely doubt especially because the latter gave away the fact that Alexis/Natalie don't pull through to the end.

If it's a final 2, Eliza has to choose between Parv/Amanda. Also it's possible that one of Alexis/Natalie feel betrayed by Parv and votes Amanda. Heck you could have Eric feeling betrayed votes for Parv, and then either Alexis/Natalie feeling betrayed votes for Amanda. Who knows how the votes will go down.

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