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Posts: 922 (05/02/08 1:01 AM) |
Jacare15 wrote: which is kinda irrelevant, since it would be parvati the one who needs the votes not the other 2, and the other 2 "betrayed" amanda not parvati, parvati DID betrayed them |
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Relynn |
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Posts: 404 (05/02/08 1:06 AM) Registered user |
gretchensucks wrote: Yes, but the point is Miss Pavarti choose to make all those alliances, so there you go...As for Ozzy, Ozzy has more of a right to feel betrayed than Alexis. |
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AmightyRo |
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Posts: 264 (05/02/08 1:10 AM) |
Relynn wrote: Yes she did...but Alexis feeling betrayed is equivalent to the Parv/James/Amanda/Ozzy alliance going to the final four, having one of them get booted and then having that person say how he/she feels betrayed by their alliance. Parvati had a 5 person alliance, one was exempt, she can't vote for herself, that leaves her with a choice of 3 to choose from. As far as I'm concerned she took her women's alliance as far as she could take it. So feeling betrayed is just silly. |
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gretchensucks |
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Posts: 431 (05/02/08 1:11 AM) |
Relynn wrote: Do I really need to continue stating the obvious? Parvati chose to make more alliances than she could possibly honor. Thus she is the "Amber"
of this season as Jeff pointed out. The problem for Parvati is that she doesn't have a Boston Rob to go to the final with.
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Relynn |
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Posts: 406 (05/02/08 1:14 AM) Registered user |
According to Insider, Alexis feels that at this point, people deserve the "honor" of being told they are being voted out.. No more blindsides, besides I think Alexis thought she had a final 3 deal with Pavarti, which is why she's ticked...! |
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AmightyRo |
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Posts: 265 (05/02/08 1:18 AM) |
Relynn wrote: Yeah...and I think Alexis is stupid for thinking that. Telling people youre going to vote them out when the HII is still in play is the most naive thing--especially in Survivor! She comes across as incredibly self-righteous to me. "I've never told a lie!!!!!" Right, tell that to Ozzy and Jason. |
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gretchensucks |
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Posts: 432 (05/02/08 1:20 AM) |
AmightyRo wrote: Saying she had a F5 alliance is too simplistic. She had two separate alliances. A F4 alliance with Amanda, Alexis and Natalie...and a F3 alliance with Amanda and Cirie. You can't get out of that without hurting some feelings and creating animosity. |
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gretchensucks |
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Posts: 433 (05/02/08 1:22 AM) |
AmightyRo wrote: That's irrelevant. If Alexis is pissed, then Parvati has a problem...regardless of whether it's the mature way of thinking. Same goes with Ozzy
and James.
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Relynn |
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Posts: 407 (05/02/08 1:23 AM) Registered user |
AmightyRo wrote: So Amanda is suppose to tell you she has the idol...LOL! And it's Alexis darn fault for Amanda getting the idol in the first place. Here's a little clue Alexis, if someone's second on your boot list, Don't Send them to Exile. |
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AmightyRo |
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Posts: 266 (05/02/08 1:24 AM) |
gretchensucks wrote: Of course it's Parvati's problem, and apparently Amanda's too per the Insider Videos...but hmm, maybe if Alexis wasn't such a dumbass and wanted to upfront tell Amanda she was voting her off she'd still be in the game. She should be pissed at herself. She basically gave the HII to Amanda and told her she was voting her off... |
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gretchensucks |
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Posts: 434 (05/02/08 1:26 AM) |
Amanda will be able to argue "self-defense" and Parvati won't, thus the difference. Cirie can say she never voted for Alexis, nor did she have
an alliance (that was shown).
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Relynn |
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Posts: 408 (05/02/08 1:33 AM) Registered user |
AmightyRo wrote: I suspect Amanda would have used it anyways, at least one would hope... Pavarti |
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Relynn |
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Posts: 409 (05/02/08 1:34 AM) Registered user |
AmightyRo wrote: I suspect Amanda would have used it anyways, at least one would hope... Pavarti would have told her what was up. Spoilers say Alexis will choose one or the other, Amanda may be able to sway her way with reasoning. You told me you were writing my name down, so I wrote yours down. |
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JVJrule |
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Posts: 1745 (05/02/08 1:37 AM) Registered user |
I think a lot of the scenes tonight either showed a Parvati redemption arc or the continuation of "Why Parvati Loses".
Her crying over James' elimination including the hugs and all their scenes together: James is very popular and showing that could help Parvati lighten up to the viewers Telling Alexis that they should vote her off due to her knee injury/Parv says she can't vote for Amanda: Could go either way. Could be to show Parv can be trustworthy, or very threatening and loses a vote from Alexis (due to her threat, as said in Alexis' confessional). Voting off Alexis and keeping Amanda: Again, could go either way. It could've made Parv look good to the jury (especially after Amanda was praising her), or could either make Amanda look better, or Parvati look bad to Natalexis. Although, by the course of this season, I'd still call (and hope and love) a Parvati victory. |
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ProbstFan123 |
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Posts: 10021 (05/02/08 1:40 AM) Registered user |
Why soften up Parvati's edit if they're trying to show why she loses?
They didn't do that with Steph or Rob. In fact their edits got worse as the season progressed. |
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Relynn |
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Posts: 410 (05/02/08 1:53 AM) Registered user |
ProbstFan123 wrote: Honestly, after this episode, I'm beginning to think that Pavarti may win, and she's my pick. BUT, the point could be Eliza's they take someone to the jury more liked then them, could be a foreshadowing... There might be a reason, that was edited into it. Pavarti let says never turns on her "little sister" heck maybe even choices to take her into the Final 2, and loses because she didn't take Amanda out. Maybe Pavarti's edit is: Cutthroat, but not cutthroat enough?
Maybe because they figure the viewers will think that Amanda won't get to the Final 2/3.
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TikiTiger |
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Posts: 135 (05/02/08 3:39 AM) Registered user |
I don't think Alexis and Nat are going to hold as strong of a grudge against Amanda in the end because 1) She saved herself in an impressive way , 2) she
got screwed by her own alliance (including Parvati -- who screwed the girls).
Editwise, I feel it should be a Cirie or Parv win but Amanda logically seems like the likely winner. Eliza is probably still bitter about Cirie killing off her alliance early on and siding with the others, so I see Eliza not voting for Cirie. She dislikes Parv, so it's an obvious Amanda vote I think. Ozzy's for Amanda, James will likely be on her side as well. I can't think of anyone who would NOT vote for Amanda, except maybe Erik. While we're discussing a possible Amanda Final scenario -- do you think she will mention its her second time lasting all 39 days or keep it to herself? Part of me feels she should say it, but then I think maybe it would hurt her. |
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Trixiego |
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Posts: 14314 (05/02/08 5:37 AM) Kiss me, I'm Adminish |
She may have lost his jury vote. There was no reason for it except to try to humiliate him1. She called him out to the jury 2. She was playing a role to make sure everyone thought she was the one going home. |
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shoeless rye |
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Posts: 4960 (05/02/08 9:03 AM) Registered user |
Amanda will have nothing to apologize for - Alexis and Natalie came after her first, when according to their alliance, Cirie should have been the target. They
decided to play all high and mighty letting Amanda know she was going because they thought they had the numbers and she didn't have the idol(the brilliant
move was dumping all of her stuff right after they got off the boat from the immunity challenge). Amanda's play also saved Cirie as well, because if she
acted any other way then she did (trying to guilt people to keeping her) they might have thought something was up and booted Cirie just in case. She might
have to explain why she played Erik to the extent she did, but it is easily explainable strategically.
However I think Parvati is a lock to win now, as they went over the top with all of the "Amanda is a strong social gamer" and "I lose if I'm beside Amanda F3". Parvati screwed over Amanda (until she learned she had the idol) with her I won't vote for her but it's cool if you guys do reasonsing, and then Alexis and Natalie when she played the part in the blindside. But as has been said, Alexis and Natalie moved against their alliance first by targeting Amanda over Cirie. |
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Carezy |
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Posts: 12 (05/02/08 9:45 AM) |
Thank you Shoeless for pointing out that CIRIE would've been the next target if A/N stuck with their alliance. They can't be mad at Parvati for going
against them. When the alliance was made, Parv said - I'm tight with Amanda. For them to think that she would side with them over Amanda is ridiculous.
Attacking Amanda wasn't part of Parvati's plan, so the minute A/N brought that up, she wasn't going along with it. There's no reason for her to
stick with those two for the vote when they're closest alliance is with each other. If the 4th person with them wins immunity, CLEARLY A/N would boot Parv,
why take that chance??
Long story short, if this whole situation was reversed, Alexis and Natalie would've pulled the same move to blindside Parv or Amanda... Period. Don't be mad if you would've done the same thing... Hypothetically... obviously, there's no 100% way of knowing. |
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