Ok, where the hell did it come from?

0 Kudo

Started By	Comment
Dr Will Hatch two point oh	Ok, where the hell did it come from?	Lead	[-]
Posts: 2037 (01/01/08 10:55 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I find Aras to be a above average winner and the victim of peoples bias. I can respect if people dont like him or thought he got lucky,but I keep hearing over and over again that he planned to lose to Cirie. When and where did he say this? Post a link if you can
Kitty Pryde1		#1	[-]
Posts: 1780 (01/01/08 11:05 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well, I think it's basic logic. Final 4, it's him, Danielle, Cirie, and Terry. At that point, Danielle's probably the only player he can beat, and yet he voted for her with Cirie. Honestly, I think Aras and Terry both voted stupidly in that TC. They voted for the wrong people.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#2	[-]
Posts: 2038 (01/01/08 11:08 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Eh, not really
tacobellcanon		#3	[-]
Posts: 83 (01/01/08 11:10 PM) I don't get most of the jokes Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Aras wouldn't vote against Cirie in that F4 vote because they were still aligned, and he didn't want to risk losing her vote, I don't think. Anyway, I'm pretty sure it was his plan to bring her to the finals, but not necessarily to lose against her. He probably could have beat her, even with a bad jury performance, because as pissed off as Shane was, he wouldn't have voted for Cirie. Courtney and Terry were votes for Aras too. Maybe Bruce, maybe Austin, maybe Danielle. Aras and Cirie made the same moves and pissed off the same people (much like Aras and Danielle) and everyone knows the EI jury was pretty much fueled by testosterone and bruised egos.
chapera rocks		#4	[-]
Posts: 8187 (01/01/08 11:16 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	He said in an interview that he thought he would lose to Cirie. He's also said that he wanted to go to the final 2 with Cirie. You can put two and two together.
RobVanStratus		#5	[-]
Posts: 6897 (01/01/08 11:25 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Terry voted correctly at that TC. Cirie would have beat him probably in the final vote or at least come closer. And if he votes off Danielle, Aras beats him in the Final IC and takes Cirie to the end.
Kitty Pryde1		#6	[-]
Posts: 1781 (01/01/08 11:32 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	It was NOT the best move. At that point, Cirie was basically incapable of ever winning immunity, and Terry had dominated all but one immunity challenge. Aras is hard to beat, but Danielle's a better challenger than Cirie, and when you know you're not making the final without immunity, you need every advantage you can get. Terry was keeping Danielle around because he thought, for some reason, that he needed a goat in order to win. He would decimate anyone else in the game, because he never backstabbed anyone, and the jury was bitter.
FranklinBluth		#7	[-]
Posts: 1054 (01/01/08 11:35 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I got the feeling that at that point Terry just voted for the person he liked less. He and Danielle had bonded for the past few days and maybe he figured that if she won the last IC that she'd take him to the end over Aras. Obviously he was mistaken, but I don't think he should've voted Cirie out, especially if he knew that Aras would've taken Cirie if he won the last IC.
tacobellcanon		#8	[-]
Posts: 84 (01/01/08 11:36 PM) I don't get most of the jokes Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Terry was still pitching his alliance offer to Danielle at the F4. For the reasons you just said, in that Danielle was better than Cirie at challenges, Terry wouldn't vote her off because he wanted her to take him to the F2, if she did win final immunity. Dumb as Terry was the rest of the season, he knew Cirie or Aras would never take him over each other, so Terry made the correct move in voting for Cirie.
XtremeInnovator420		#9	[-]
Posts: 693 (01/01/08 11:43 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yeah, because chances are if Terry helps vote off Danielle, Aras likely wins the F3 immunity and takes Cirie with him.
WylDawg		#10	[-]
Posts: 13727 (01/02/08 12:00 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	RobVanStratus wrote: Terry voted correctly at that TC. Cirie would have beat him probably in the final vote or at least come closer. And if he votes off Danielle, Aras beats him in the Final IC and takes Cirie to the end. See, I have to disagree. Shane and Courtney made it very clear on their TES appearance that they were pissed off at Cirie. Terry would've got their votes, plus Austin, most probably Bruce and Sally too. So in short, Terry would've mopped the floor against anyone for the jury votes. So basically, all he had to do was get to the final 2, which is why he should've taken out Danielle instead seing as she had a better chance of winning the final IC than Cirie. But Terry probably gambled on the fact that Danielle would keep her end of the bargain and take him to the final 2 whereas Aras and Cirie would've taken each other to the final 2 without a second thought. The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced Aras would've beat Cirie in a final 2 scenario. She lost Shane and Courtney's votes for being too two faced and people like Bruce, Terry and Austin probably wouldn't have appreciated her unathleticsm. Face it, from our perspective, Cirie was a top notch player, but from her peers' perspective, she wasn't all that. Last Edited By: WylDawg 01/02/08 12:02 AM. Edited 1 times.
Riliss		#11	[-]
Posts: 2715 (01/02/08 12:06 AM) Ugly on the inside Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I like Aras.
chapera rocks		#12	[-]
Posts: 8189 (01/02/08 12:19 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	WylDawg wrote: RobVanStratus wrote: Terry voted correctly at that TC. Cirie would have beat him probably in the final vote or at least come closer. And if he votes off Danielle, Aras beats him in the Final IC and takes Cirie to the end. See, I have to disagree. Shane and Courtney made it very clear on their TES appearance that they were pissed off at Cirie. Terry would've got their votes, plus Austin, most probably Bruce and Sally too. So in short, Terry would've mopped the floor against anyone for the jury votes. So basically, all he had to do was get to the final 2, which is why he should've taken out Danielle instead seing as she had a better chance of winning the final IC than Cirie. But Terry probably gambled on the fact that Danielle would keep her end of the bargain and take him to the final 2 whereas Aras and Cirie would've taken each other to the final 2 without a second thought. The more I think about it, the more I'm convinced Aras would've beat Cirie in a final 2 scenario. She lost Shane and Courtney's votes for being too two faced and people like Bruce, Terry and Austin probably wouldn't have appreciated her unathleticsm. Face it, from our perspective, Cirie was a top notch player, but from her peers' perspective, she wasn't all that. X Although Sally's is up in the air b/w Terry/Cirie, at least from her day after video. Maybe after she saw all of Terry's IC wins, she'd vote for him for sure, who knows.
WylDawg		#13	[-]
Posts: 13729 (01/02/08 12:24 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yeah, I think I remember Sally saying she wanted to vote for a strategic player whom Terry was everything but. But then again, the Casaya people seem to have snubbed Sally pretty bad. Like Penny would say, she was a number and they didn't give a shit about her. Hell, even her initial tribemates Courtney and Danielle didn't seem all that found of Sally, which makes me think she would've voted For Terry against anyone for the simple fact that they at least had some connection.
platinumtlc		#14	[-]
Posts: 1048 (01/02/08 12:29 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Just because someone is pissed off at someone, doesn't mean they won't vote for them in the Finals.
WylDawg		#15	[-]
Posts: 13732 (01/02/08 12:35 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think Aras pales in comparaison to most of the other winners, but he was still satisfying. EI to me, was about Cirie and Terry who were both driven to win by using polar opposite strategies. Cirie was 100% strategic and 0% physical, Terry was 100% physical and 0% strategic. Aras was sort of in between them. He played half strategic, half physical. Call me a sap, but I saw it as lesson to viewers that you need balance to win this game.
SFC		#16	[-]
Posts: 122 (01/02/08 12:35 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If Aras wanted Cirie to win, why didn't he just give her the Immunity?
taigark		#17	[-]
Posts: 196 (01/02/08 12:40 AM) Hey! I kinda like it here! Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Maybe he wanted to be in the final 2 with her.
WylDawg		#18	[-]
Posts: 13734 (01/02/08 12:42 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	He wanted to be in the final 2 with her. I think much like Colby, Aras wanted to honor his alliance with Cirie because they ruled the game together. Wether that would cost him the win or not was probably an after thought for him. Not the smartest approach in this game, I agree but "planning to lose" is a bit exagerated choice of words.
tacobellcanon		#19	[-]
Posts: 88 (01/02/08 12:51 AM) I don't get most of the jokes Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	WylDawg wrote: I think Aras pales in comparaison to most of the other winners, but he was still satisfying. EI to me, was about Cirie and Terry who were both driven to win by using polar opposite strategies. Cirie was 100% strategic and 0% physical, Terry was 100% physical and 0% strategic. Aras was sort of in between them. He played half strategic, half physical. Call me a sap, but I saw it as lesson to viewers that you need balance to win this game. That's what makes Aras such a great winner, from my perspective... he seemed to understand balance, whereas some other winners didn't really seem to get that.
SFC		#20	[-]
Posts: 123 (01/02/08 2:20 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	taigark wrote: Maybe he wanted to be in the final 2 with her. Maybe he had a better chance of winning the Fire Challenge.

<< Previous Topic Next Topic >>

Yuku free message boards

Ok, where the hell did it come from?

Ok, where the hell did it come from?

Quick Reply