An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals

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Drboboosh2		#1241	[-]
Posts: 15 (10/04/08 12:37 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Hey Artiee, go fuck yourself. Nobody likes your stupid idea, and even if they did, it wouldn't matter. I'm sick of this bullshit. Do you think if every person on this fucking message board agreed with you, that EPMB would just say, "Holy shit! ArtieeLange has a great idea, let's change the show!" It's not gonna happen. Like will you ever give up? Will you still be posting after Survivor is cancelled? What if you die and your system is never implemented? You life will be pointless. You should dedicate your life to something more meaningful. You've basically wasted hours of your life because you're mad that Courtney made the finals. It's bullshit, and you're bullshit.
Kitty Pryde1		#1242	[-]
Posts: 5733 (10/04/08 12:50 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ArtieeLange wrote: Kitty Pryde1 wrote: Wow, Artiee was RIGHT. The weaklings on Kota all ganged up on, and voted out, Ace. Oh wait...no they didn't. Two of them tried. Unlike Michelle, Ace was lucky. Under my system, strong players don't have to be lucky. Way to follow along. Two of them tried, one of whom was voted out, and the other was the ally of the one voted out. What was that? Your logic was complete bullshit and you had to spend a whole day trying to figure out how you could spin this so you wouldn't look retarded? Well I'm glad you admit it. That's the first step to admitting you have a problem. Oh, and Ace wasn't "lucky". His tribe sees him as a physical asset, and as such, he's needed under the current system. That's the only reason why an asshole like him (or Jean-Robert) wouldn't be voted out.
ArtieeLange		#1243	[-]
Posts: 245 (10/04/08 8:05 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kitty Pryde1 wrote: ArtieeLange wrote: Kitty Pryde1 wrote: Wow, Artiee was RIGHT. The weaklings on Kota all ganged up on, and voted out, Ace. Oh wait...no they didn't. Two of them tried. Unlike Michelle, Ace was lucky. Under my system, strong players don't have to be lucky. Way to follow along. Two of them tried Because a strong player was vulnerable to being voted out by weaklings. Sometimes it happens like with Michelle, sometimes it doesn't. If your brains weren't in your ass, you would know that the point is its possible with the current system, and not with my system. With my system, Paloma would be fighting a competitive fight among her equals, both to reach the top half of the challenge, and then to figure out who to vote off. There would be no wasted time with "teams" and wasted time focusing on Ace. Everything that happens during the current team part of the game is a waste, and all it is determined by the random team selection. Watch the ratings suffer.
BobBob77		#1244	[-]
Posts: 1194 (10/04/08 8:54 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	BUT THE TEAM SELECTION WASN'T RANDOM DUMBASS!!!
Kitty Pryde1		#1245	[-]
Posts: 5734 (10/04/08 10:30 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ArtieeLange wrote: Kitty Pryde1 wrote: ArtieeLange wrote: Kitty Pryde1 wrote: Wow, Artiee was RIGHT. The weaklings on Kota all ganged up on, and voted out, Ace. Oh wait...no they didn't. Two of them tried. Unlike Michelle, Ace was lucky. Under my system, strong players don't have to be lucky. Way to follow along. Two of them tried Because a strong player was vulnerable to being voted out by weaklings. Sometimes it happens like with Michelle, sometimes it doesn't. If your brains weren't in your ass, you would know that the point is its possible with the current system, and not with my system. With my system, Paloma would be fighting a competitive fight among her equals, both to reach the top half of the challenge, and then to figure out who to vote off. There would be no wasted time with "teams" and wasted time focusing on Ace. Everything that happens during the current team part of the game is a waste, and all it is determined by the random team selection. Watch the ratings suffer. And if a strong player has bad luck in getting a challenge that doesn't highlight his or her strengths (although in your opinion, the only strong players can really be "hims", huh?), then s/he can AND WILL be voted out by weaklings because there is absolutely NO reason to keep him or her around. The only reason Ace survived was because he was physically strong, and the tribe needed him, and Paloma was weak. THAT'S HOW THE CURRENT SYSTEM WORKS! Sure, you may have idiots that boot strong players early, but for the most part, the weakest players are targetted first, whereas in your system, the strongest players who have bad luck in the random choosing of challenges are targetted first. So thank you for utterly being owned by this past episode to the point where you took a whole day to tribe and come up with some fucktarded excuse for why your system is better than the system that has taken out a scrawny whiner, an old lady, and the smallest girl in the game, all in a row. Must be hard when Survivor proves how much better it is than your crappy system. And thanks again for being so owned by my response to you that you couldn't even copy a whole sentence to refute, so instead you just copied the part that I copied from you and repeated all the dumb shit you said before.
ArtieeLange		#1246	[-]
Posts: 246 (10/04/08 1:51 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kitty Pryde1 wrote: ArtieeLange wrote: Kitty Pryde1 wrote: ArtieeLange wrote: Kitty Pryde1 wrote: Wow, Artiee was RIGHT. The weaklings on Kota all ganged up on, and voted out, Ace. Oh wait...no they didn't. Two of them tried. Unlike Michelle, Ace was lucky. Under my system, strong players don't have to be lucky. Way to follow along. Two of them tried Because a strong player was vulnerable to being voted out by weaklings. Sometimes it happens like with Michelle, sometimes it doesn't. If your brains weren't in your ass, you would know that the point is its possible with the current system, and not with my system. With my system, Paloma would be fighting a competitive fight among her equals, both to reach the top half of the challenge, and then to figure out who to vote off. There would be no wasted time with "teams" and wasted time focusing on Ace. Everything that happens during the current team part of the game is a waste, and all it is determined by the random team selection. Watch the ratings suffer. And if a strong player has bad luck in getting a challenge that doesn't highlight his or her strengths You still don't know what luck is. It is not luck if you aren't as good as someone else. It is luck if you are given an undeserved advantage, and bad luck if you are given a undeserved disadvantage, like Michelle and all the other first players voted off. All of them, dummy. Under my system, there is no luck, and there are no weaklings targeting strong players, because they have separated based on merit. Not luck. Merit.
Kitty Pryde1		#1247	[-]
Posts: 5744 (10/04/08 1:55 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Apparently, you don't understand luck, since anything outside of the contestants' control that affects the outcome of the game (the types of challenges, twists, initial tribes) is considered luck. Your system doesn't remove luck. It just puts more emphasis on a specific sort of luck, rather than spreading it around. You're a complete joke and you're been thoroughly owned in just how wrong you are over the past two weeks, so let this thread die.
BobBob77		#1248	[-]
Posts: 1203 (10/04/08 4:29 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If Michelle was so strong she should have gotten the idol at the top of the hill. That made it fair, they all had the chance to go get the idol. Everyone had the opportunity to save themselves.
ArtieeLange		#1249	[-]
Posts: 247 (10/04/08 10:03 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kitty Pryde1 wrote: anything outside of the contestants' control Perfoming in an equal challenge is not outside the contestants control, dope. It is not bad luck if you weigh 300 pounds and can't run, but get a running challenge. It is bad luck if you weigh 300 pounds and are randomly placed on a team of athletes like me, and good luck if you are placed on a team of players that weigh 500 pounds.
BobBob77		#1250	[-]
Posts: 1211 (10/04/08 11:03 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ArtieeLange wrote: Kitty Pryde1 wrote: anything outside of the contestants' control Perfoming in an equal challenge is not outside the contestants control, dope. It is not bad luck if you weigh 300 pounds and can't run, but get a running challenge. It is bad luck if you weigh 300 pounds and are randomly placed on a team of athletes like me, and good luck if you are placed on a team of players that weigh 500 pounds. Okay seriously are you calling yourself an athlete? Yeah sure you are.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#1251	[-]
Posts: 5266 (10/04/08 11:50 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	By the way, my game is doing just fine without you
Kitty Pryde1		#1252	[-]
Posts: 5755 (10/05/08 10:36 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ArtieeLange wrote: Kitty Pryde1 wrote: anything outside of the contestants' control Perfoming in an equal challenge is not outside the contestants control, dope. It is not bad luck if you weigh 300 pounds and can't run, but get a running challenge. It is bad luck if you weigh 300 pounds and are randomly placed on a team of athletes like me, and good luck if you are placed on a team of players that weigh 500 pounds. Except for it to be equal, you would have to take into account a contestant's physical abilities and balance it out that way, so for example, someone like Courtney would have to carry, say, a 5 pound weight, whereas James would have to carry a 100 lbs weight. Sound fair? No? Well good, because it isn't. That's why the challenges are luck. A physical challenge is bad luck for someone who's not physical, and a mental challenge is bad luck for someone who's not good at puzzles. There's no ifs, ands or buts about it. You can't possibly craft 13+ challenges to equally accomodate 16+ people, so obviously, there's a luck factor in what challenge is used when.
Ashley Neleh		#1253	[-]
Posts: 43 (10/05/08 12:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Part of me really wishes that Artie will make it on Survivor and then bitch and moan about being on the wrong tribe after he's the first one voted out.
Ellivision		#1254	[-]
Posts: 48 (10/05/08 4:33 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'd like to point out tribes on seasons where the producers choose tribes are not random. The producers work in personality and psychical factors when deciding who goes where. It's not like they draw names out of a hat :/
cardswin5		#1255	[-]
Posts: 706 (10/05/08 10:11 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ArtieeLange wrote: Kitty Pryde1 wrote: anything outside of the contestants' control Perfoming in an equal challenge is not outside the contestants control, dope. It is not bad luck if you weigh 300 pounds and can't run, but get a running challenge. It is bad luck if you weigh 300 pounds and are randomly placed on a team of athletes like me, and good luck if you are placed on a team of players that weigh 500 pounds. I find that funny and if I'm wrong and you somehow are an amazing athlete, than you remind me of your beloved Ozzy. Gay, physically strong and retarded. You would fail a puzzle challenge, then if your social skills in real life resemble in any way your social skills on this message board you would fail the strategy part too. Thus would fail at your own system. Now STFU and go die.
Sole Survivor Genius		#1256	[-]
Posts: 1053 (10/05/08 10:13 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Ellivision wrote: I'd like to point out tribes on seasons where the producers choose tribes are not random. The producers work in personality and psychical factors when deciding who goes where. It's not like they draw names out of a hat :/ You lie!
ArtieeLange		#1257	[-]
Posts: 248 (10/07/08 1:26 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kitty Pryde1 wrote: Except for it to be equal, you would have to take into account a contestant's physical abilities and balance it out that way Good point chubs, and when selecting contestants, Survivor chooses both the weak and the strong, the slow and the fast, presumably to cater to every single demographic possible (morons over there have never heard that if you try to please all the people, all the time, you will please no one = ratings plummeting descent) So after selecting a diverse group of losers and winners, Survivor then wants to balance things out. What is the best way to "equalize" all contestants, despite the fact that some are good and should be rewarded, and some aren't and should be penalized? Introduce luck, in the form of a) random team placement and b) permanent team placement (until merge).
Kitty Pryde1		#1258	[-]
Posts: 5773 (10/07/08 4:13 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ArtieeLange wrote: Kitty Pryde1 wrote: Except for it to be equal, you would have to take into account a contestant's physical abilities and balance it out that way (morons over there have never heard that if you try to please all the people, all the time, you will please no one = ratings plummeting descent) Certainly a better plan than expecting them to please one of the people (you) all of the time and completely pissing off the over 10 million people who actually watch and enjoy the show as it is, despite it being 17 seasons old.
ArtieeLange		#1259	[-]
Posts: 249 (10/08/08 1:01 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kitty Pryde1 wrote: Certainly a better plan than expecting them to please one of the people (you) all of the time and completely pissing off the over 10 million people who actually watch and enjoy the show as it is, despite it being 17 seasons old. Couch whale, shows like Ultimate Fighter and The Deadliest Catch are on an unprecedented ratings increase, and they are taking viewers away from Survivor. Viewers love to see struggle and just rewards. Survivor is about luck and numbers instead of competition or struggle, making it more like a silly game show, and its audience more like couch whales.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#1260	[-]
Posts: 5312 (10/08/08 8:01 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	True, but your idea will take any human interest out of the show and make it into a sporting event

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