An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals

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ArtieeLange1		#1181	[-]
Posts: 151 (09/27/08 11:58 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	BobBob77 wrote: I agree, you have done great but I think it is time to stop Translation: BobBob77 wrote: oh SHIT! What happened in the first episode is EXACTLY what Artie predicted; a strong player got SCREWED, and for the exact same reasons he has been stating for weeks. I am a fuckin MORON, and I'm just gonna stick my head up my ass where it belongs and slowly back outta this place. I get enough humiliation in my real life!!! BobOn7", just for future reference there's no reason to announce your departure when you never contributed anything in the first place, just GTFO.
BobBob77		#1182	[-]
Posts: 1110 (09/28/08 9:00 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	All right bitch listen up, Michelle was not a strong player, I know to a person with a "special" brain like yourself her being the first woman up the hill may make you think she is strong, but she is not. A strong player has a good social game, and she had absolutely no social game. So sorry, she is not a strong player. Maybe she would have done well under your system, but that would prove how shitty your system is. A player that really only has one of the qualities it takes to be a good player does not deserve to make it far. Michelle was not a strong player, no matter how fast she could run. And I notice how you are conveniently ignoring the fact that Gillian left second. HEY SHE WAS A "WEAKLING". And may I point out how you keep saying "weaklings" get to the finals, but they really don't. Michelle was weak. Gillian was weak. Look how far they made it. To you, anyone who isn't Tom, Terry, Ozzy, or one of their boring ass clones is a weakling. Being able to run and swim fast is not being good at Survivor. Having good social skills and playing the game well is being good at Survivor. Michelle was not good at Survivor. Please explain one thing to me. How would it work when the "weaklings" go to tribal council? Wouldn't they vote out the strongest of them all? Why would they say, "She did the worst, so lets vote her out." They would be targeting the strongest ones. And if one of the challenge whores had a bad challenge and fell into the loser group, they would leave. They would not stay. And you keep claiming that the challenges would be equal and diverse, so don't say that the challenge whores will never lose because they will. Face it, even under your system the "weaklings" would win. Let me get this through your skull. YOUR FUCKING IDEA WOULD RUIN SURVIVOR AND IT WOULDN'T EVEN WORK AT GETTING RID OF THE "WEAKLINGS"!!! So why don't you take your idea, go to some other forum, and see how fast it takes them to shoot you down. Your idea sucks. Get over it. Now go jump off a bridge. Or better, go stand on one until it breaks from the weight of your fat ass.
ArtieeLange		#1183	[-]
Posts: 231 (09/28/08 9:33 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Last Edited By: ArtieeLange 09/28/08 9:39 AM. Edited 2 times.
ArtieeLange		#1184	[-]
Posts: 232 (09/28/08 9:40 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	TimmyTAR wrote: While Michelle was kind of a strong competitor, her negative attitude made her strength be cancelled out. Her negative attitude was based on the fact that she got screwed and was stuck with a bunch of losers, and could not prove herself, or save herself. The same thing I've been saying for weeks, ya dope. Last Edited By: ArtieeLange 09/28/08 9:45 AM. Edited 1 times.
mtj1282		#1185	[-]
Posts: 1475 (09/28/08 9:40 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Had michelle lasted past the first tribal, she would not have been a strong PHYSICAL player much longer. She was freezing at night which increases ones chance of getting sick. She was also really skinny to being with which doesnt help. It would not have been very long before she was just as weak as gillian and kenny. Survior has many dimensions to it, and I agree with the posters that have said when it comes down to it she wasnt a strong player because of her social game etc.
ArtieeLange		#1186	[-]
Posts: 233 (09/28/08 9:43 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	BobBob77 wrote: Michelle was not a strong player It seems thats the only way to refute my system: Lie Of course Michelle was strong, second up the hill, first woman up the hill, competed her ass off in the immunity challenge, and she clearly had a quick wit about her as well as she recognized and expressed her fate of being stuck on a team with a bunch of weak moronic losers, and called GC out when he quit like a bitch. What the game does, what was just proven, and what I've been saying for weeks, is introduce luck in the game. "rock paper scissors" bullshit, "schoolyard pick" bullshit, "producer pre-selected" bullshit. Every single event that occurs in the game, all the way up to the winner, is based on these bullshit initial "team selections". My system prevents that. My system would make for a more fair, more competitive, more challenging, and more entertaining game.
Kitty Pryde1		#1187	[-]
Posts: 5665 (09/28/08 9:51 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	No, your system would diminish the strategic and social aspects of the game and make it all about the challenges. This is CBS, not fucking MTV. CBS still has SOME credibility.
BobBob77		#1188	[-]
Posts: 1114 (09/28/08 10:58 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I knew you would take one sentence from my post and try to prove it wrong. MICHELLE WAS NOT A STRONG PLAYER!!! How many times do I have to tell you? I know your little brain is just thinking "She climb hill fast. She strong." but she was not strong. Face it. Oh by the way, I am still waiting for your thoughts about Gillian.
mtj1282		#1189	[-]
Posts: 1481 (09/28/08 11:03 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Artie doesnt get it, i dont feel like getting involved in this shit but I do think its annoying that he thinks shes strong, ill repost what I said one last time and then fuck it (in fact everyone arguing with him should say fuck it) Had michelle lasted past the first tribal, she would not have been a strong PHYSICAL player much longer. She was freezing at night which increases ones chance of getting sick. She was also really skinny to being with which doesnt help. It would not have been very long before she was just as weak as gillian and kenny. Survior has many dimensions to it, and I agree with the posters that have said when it comes down to it she wasnt a strong player because of her social game etc. Last Edited By: mtj1282 09/28/08 11:20 AM. Edited 1 times.
Kitty Pryde1		#1190	[-]
Posts: 5670 (09/28/08 11:05 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yeah, all Michelle was good at was the running up the hill challenge and unsuccessfully digging for a bag of puzzle pieces. She was essentially Courtney Y. with leg muscles. Plus the only reason she appeared to do so much better than the other women at running and climbing up the hill could've easily been because she was the only woman other than Gillian and Susie (who were already slow and weak) that wasn't wearing a fucking dress in the middle of Africa. The dress hurt Crystal's mobility, and it probably hurt the Kota girls as well.
mfrimley		#1191	[-]
Posts: 872 (09/28/08 2:31 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Look, Artiee was right! Susie: I voted for you, Michelle, tonight because, socially, it's hard to interact with you, and quite honest, you are stronger than I am, I mean you kicked ass at that first challenge. We'll see you soon.
ArtieeLange		#1192	[-]
Posts: 234 (09/28/08 9:00 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	mfrimley wrote: Look, Artiee was right! Susie: I voted for you, Michelle, tonight because, socially, it's hard to interact with you, and quite honest, you are stronger than I am, I mean you kicked ass at that first challenge. We'll see you soon. Don't bother, these morons will find any excuse to ignore reality. More: "Bitch GC: My vote is for Michelle because that's the name I heard the most today and I was trying to vote with the rest of the group, so sorry it had to be you." Bitch Ken: Michelle, I tried really hard to save you but if I dind't vote with the group, then they wouldn't trust me at all. I'm very sorry. And last Michelle: (votes Gillian) I think you're the weakest one on the tribe, that's pretty much it, for weak ones, but you are the weakest. Michelle ruled, and the shit game never gave her a chance, as the players confirm themselves. She could have won the whole fuckin thing were it not for "rock paper scissors" or "schoolyard pick" idiocy.
BobBob77		#1193	[-]
Posts: 1124 (09/28/08 10:08 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yeah, I think if she had made it far or won you would have claimed she was a weakling. Anything to prove that point of yours. I wonder if you realized that mfrimley was being sarcastic. And one more thing, you only posted two votes for Michelle. Maybe some of the other votes said something like "you are a miserable bitch please go die".
Kitty Pryde1		#1194	[-]
Posts: 5671 (09/28/08 10:55 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yeah Artiee. Aside from Susie, no one said they voted her out due to her being strong. They either said they were voting with the group, which is a smart move, or that she had a piss-poor attitude and deserved to be voted out.
ladidalalah		#1195	[-]
Posts: 4 (09/29/08 4:00 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The actual problem with the game is that the fang tribe is stupid and have half the intelligence of Artiee. Any moron would realize their tribe is physically weaker than the other tribe and they need to get rid of the weak instead of one of the strongest physical members. It doesn't matter how annoying or bitchy they are because they are needed. Michelle was like Courtney who hated her tribe but Courtney made it to the final 2 and Michelle was the first voted out. That is what screws up the game of survivor. Just simply stop putting stupid people on the show because everyone plays the game assuming that everyone else is rational and smart and the deserving people get screwed over because the dumb people vote them out thinking that that would be the best move when it really is a bad move for them. In fact if Artiee's system was used this season, instead of voting out the strongest of the loser group, they'll all vote out the weakest because they're too stupid to know what's best for them. I'm not trying to defend him, I thinks he sucks and his idea sucks but if they keep casting people that are as dumb as Jason and the producers will haver Erik, the game gets screwed. It might be funny to watch how dumb they are, but the game is no longer fair. In this season these people are even dumber than Jason. The producers will be forced to switch things up so the fang tribe doesn't get completely annihilated.
agentpf1101		#1196	[-]
Posts: 334 (09/29/08 4:55 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Your system wouldnt of prevented shit, she played a bad social game. she wouldve been in the weaker half that got sent to tribal anyway...and voted off.
mfrimley		#1197	[-]
Posts: 875 (09/29/08 7:09 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	BobBob77 wrote: I wonder if you realized that mfrimley was being sarcastic. Excuse me, but you do not speak for me. And it just shows how clueless you are that you say I shouldn't be taken seriously, but you still take Artiee seriously.
Dr Will Hatch two point oh		#1198	[-]
Posts: 5115 (09/29/08 8:13 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The choosing of the tribes could count as a challenge Artiee, the castaways job was to be charismatic or appealing enough to get picked. Face it, you simply want Survivor to be a sporting event. You aren't even consistent with your own philosophy. If at the merge, the MVP in pre merge competitions was booted for not winning a challenge, you'd call foul and demand that the "equality" system should be extended past the merge.
petenale	Only one	#1199	[-]
Posts: 496 (09/29/08 8:24 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ArtieeLange wrote: My system prevents that. My system would make for a more fair, more competitive, more challenging, and more entertaining game. Artie, After arguing your point for months and 61 pages you are still the only one who think you system would improve Survivor. What you propose is a different game. A huge part of Survivor is building and working in a team. Instead of trying to change Survivor get your game on the air and then we can decide if it is fair, interesting or entertaining. FYI: There is a simple way to prevent weaklings from getting to the finals. It is not to eliminate teams just on't cast any weaklings. LOL
Mrs Visalo	Make these bastards work for their money	#1200	[-]
Posts: 2326 (09/29/08 9:44 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	They should just drop all the "survivors" in the South Bronx with no extra clothes, or food or money...etc. Whoever's last one alive and conscious wins!

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