<3 Anti!
| Started By | Comment | ||
|---|---|---|---|
BuffyTheThreadSlayer |
|||
|
Once I PMd Anti asking for him to make it rain and guess what? It rained!
<3 Anti! |
|||
TW After Life |
|||
|
This is a stupid idea.
|
|||
XXWildcat |
|||
|
You know, I've responded to this thread once calling it drivel, but it continues to grow longer. This completely astonishes me. I started to write a
response for each of the thread starter's suggestions this time and decided it could be summed up in three words.
You're an idiot. |
|||
ArtieeLange1 |
|||
XXWildcat wrote: And like the other posters here, you decided you would make yourself look like a complete idiot, so you decided not to, not realizing that now you look
even more idiotic.
Chet and Kathy (and etc) were losers who were kept in the game to vote out strong competitors.
Next. |
|||
Kitty Pryde1 |
|||
|
If they were really the strongest competitors, then they should've been able to win, even with Chet & Kathy. Recall that Chet & Kathy were on
opposing tribes, yet Malakal lost every challenge, except for one.
|
|||
ArtieeLange1 |
|||
Kitty Pryde1 wrote: If everyone had an equal chance on a level playing field, yes.
It seems like the only people who don't understand that fact, don't support my system. Anyone here actually understand the game? |
|||
TW After Life |
|||
Anyone here actually understand the game?I do. Your idea is dumb. |
|||
Kitty Pryde1 |
|||
|
Let's look at it this way:
The ten weakest players from this season are (Ami/Amanda could switch with a few): Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Natalie, Yau-Man, Eliza, Alexis, Mary, Jonny Fairplay The format you suggest basically means that women will more than likely get voted out before the men, because men tend to be physically stronger than women in challenges. It also shows that there is absolutely no reason for the "weaklings" not to make the merge. By your logic, wouldn't it be smarter to keep the weaklings around so you have a better chance of not going to tribal council? In fact, the system you've devised basically screws over the midcarders who aren't weak, but aren't as strong as guys like James. The second flaw is that if the same "weaklings" keep winding up in the bottom group, eventually people from the top group will fall into the bottom group, and they'll be the biggest targets. For one, they won't have had as much interaction with the bottom group, thus they won't have a firm alliance, and second, they'll be the strength that is keeping the bottom group out of the top group. So let's just assume that the weakest players stay the same each week. Based on that, the season would work out something like this. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Natalie, Yau-Man, Eliza, Alexis, Mary, Jonny Fairplay: Fairplay goes first. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Natalie, Yau-Man, Eliza, Alexis, Mary: Eliza goes second. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Natalie, Yau-Man, Alexis, Mary, Parvati: Parvati goes third. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Natalie, Yau-Man, Alexis, Mary: Yau-Man goes fourth. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Natalie, Alexis, Mary, Ami: Ami goes fifth. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Natalie, Alexis, Mary: Alexis goes sixth. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Natalie, Mary, Ami: Ami goes seventh. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Natalie, Mary: Mary goes eighth. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Natalie, Mikey B: Mikey B goes ninth. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Natalie: Natalie goes tenth. Thus the merge looks like this: Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Ozzy, James, Joel, Jason, Erik, Jonathan: Ozzy goes eleventh. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, James, Joel, Jason, Erik, Jonathan: James goes twelveth. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Joel, Jason, Erik, Jonathan: Joel goes thirteenth. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Jason, Erik, Jonathan: Jason goes fourteenth. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Erik, Jonathan: Jonathan goes fifteenth. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy, Erik: Erik goes sixteenth. Chet, Kathy, Cirie, Tracy: Cirie goes seventeenth. And the final three ends up as Crazy Kathy, Weak Chet, and Tracy. The flaw in your little plan is that it benefits the weakest players a lot more than the strongest players. |
|||
TW After Life |
|||
|
The main problem with your idea is that if it works out the way you want it to then the alpha males will dominate, the physically weaker players leave (which
is the entire point of your idea) and the game would be very very very very very very predicable and thus very very very very very boring. Entertainment is the
most important thing and thus you fail.
|
|||
Kitty Pryde1 |
|||
|
Plus, as I indicated in my post, the game caters to the weakest of the weak. Pre-merge, the weakest players are the ones you want to keep around, because
they'll never win challenges and give you less of a chance of winning challenges. Post-merge, they're completely non-threatening, and when the winners
happen to be a group of alpha-males, you know that they're going to start killing each other whenever they get the chance, thus allowing the weaklings to
skate through.
|
|||
Reduced caffeine |
|||
|
Survivor is fine the way it is... if someone was so strong they would make it to the end.
Thread starter = born to lose |
|||
ArtieeLange1 |
|||
Kitty Pryde1 wrote: lol, you're already wrong, simple strength is never an aspect in the challenges, James is the strongest guy in the history of the game, and guess how many individual challenges he won? Guess, go ahead, don't be afraid. I'll be back for your answer and your admission that your entire premise fails. |
|||
ArtieeLange1 |
Ft | ||
Reduced caffeine wrote: You support losers like Chet and Kathy, who were used to vote of strong players and then gave up because they were weak, because you identify with weak
losers.
If everyone had an equal chance on a level playing field, then strong players would make it to the end.
It seems like the only people who don't understand that fact, don't support my system. Anyone here actually understand the game? lol |
|||
SFC |
|||
ArtieeLange1 wrote: I think we all understand it perfectly, it's you who dosen't. Let's just say your idiotic concept happened, then Micornesia would end up
excatly like KittyPryde predicted. It would just end up with weak players in the end, not a James/Ozzy/Jason/Joel F4 like you hoped it would be. Do you really
think that players like Todd and Rob C. would vote off the weakest knowing that they would be moving closer to being voted off. No, they would take out the
stronger people more likely to win.
|
|||
SW5SkittlesBrownfield |
|||
|
Dynamic tribes sounds good on paper but would fair horribly on the actual show. To begin, it would be very difficult to identify relationships of 16+ people
shuffling around every 3 days. (think of the editing!) Who are friends? Allies? Outcasts? Enemies? What's the tribe dynamic? This is a large part of what
makes a pre-merge, and would be virtually wiped out. AKA Confusing as hell to watch.
This set-up doesn't favor weak eliminations, it favors mediocre ones. The best all-around individual of the losing individuals would be the target...because there are no permanent teams there is no need for bonds with strong members, the end-game would be comprised of the weakest weak and the consistently strong/lucky. Not to mention, the first foursome/fivesome to start throwing challenges would basically dominate the entire game. Which leads to the next question: what would happen at merge? Post-merge is the time when physical threats are usually stamped out anyways, so what's the point? By making the game individual from the beginning you're making the physically strong seem threatening from the start, instead of being seen as assets for immunity/camp life. Yes, there's a chance of the weaklings ganging up on the strong. Yes, there's nothing the strong can do about it (besides win immunity). But frankly, that's the "strongs" fault for not being smart enough to make a fucking alliance, and they probably deserve it. The biggest deterrent of picking off the strong are the fixed teams you seem to dislike so much. Besides, I don't think there's ever been a real issue with physically strong survivors making it to the end...Colby, Ethan, Yul, Ozzy, Terry, Tom, etc. etc. etc. It's always a crapshoot though...and that's the way it should stay. |
|||
ArtieeLange1 |
|||
SFC wrote: LOL, thats the point, stupid. The better players will advance, the weaker players will not, and it will be fair because the challenges are fair. NOT
biased towards "most muscular Alpha male" like that other moron argued.
Thanks for proving my point, if you actually understood my system, you'd realize it. :)
|
|||
survivorisdabest |
|||
|
100 posts of idiocy
|
|||
Kitty Pryde1 |
|||
|
By not having all the challenges be physical, that means it's even EASIER for the weak players to get to the end, because they'll have the physically
strong players fall into the bottom group where they'll be easy to pick off. Hell, people may be stupid, but I think only Jason would be dumb enough to
vote off players weaker than himself, instead of the stronger players if he got the chance. That's why Tracy kept Chet & Kathy around. That's why
Todd kept Courtney around. The way you've planned it basically means the weakest plays WILL team up and pick off the stronger players (thus eliminating
all the players that are neither Chet-like weaklings nor Ozzy-like challenge Gods) and they'll make the merge. And at the merge, the weaker players are
rarely targetted first, especially since the remaining alpha-males tend to fight amongst themselves to show how strong they are.
|
|||
oh ehm gee |
|||
|
This idea sucks. Maybe not in theory, but considering it would exclude Hatch, Todd, Jenna, Vee, maybe Chris, and Sassy Sandra, it sucks ass.
|
|||
ArtieeLange1 |
|||
Kitty Pryde1 wrote: Nope, you fail again, the challenges will not be "all physical" nor "not physical". They will be varied, as they are now, as anyone who
has watched just one episode already knows.
Any smart ones around here? |
|||