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Posts: 1145 (07/01/08 7:48 AM) |
imPhotog wrote: Largest red X in the history of ever.
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Posts: 125 (07/01/08 11:19 AM) |
The hot guys should win
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Posts: 115 (07/01/08 12:59 PM) |
imPhotog wrote: The casting situation is hopeless because they think they are doing a great job, and no one is gonna tell them differently. They want "talkers" instead of "doers", and thats what they get, and thats why the show fails. One recent exception is James, and its not surprising he keeps winning the viewers votes. Talkers generally become talkers because they fail at actually doing, and the reason they fail is because they are weak-willed. These are the weak bitches who give up on challenges, or even give up on the game itself. Since I have no faith that casting will improve, my system is designed to weed out these weaklings; casting gets them on the show, the current
"team" segment is designed to keep them there.
Casting puts all potential candidates in a different demographic category: "The old " "The fag" "The bimbo" "The
black" "The Asian" "The redneck" "The Hispanic" "The fatty" "The Alpha" "The NYer" "The
freak" etc etc etc, its sickeningly predictable how every season will have these, and the show fails because they are focusing on this bullshit diversity
instead of selecting the best players who wil compete their ass off.
So my system has to do what the c-words in casting won't.
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Posts: 126 (07/01/08 1:30 PM) |
The hot Guys should win
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Posts: 385 (07/01/08 1:47 PM) Registered user |
ArtieeLange1 wrote:I'm sure the majority of viewers would take a Final 4 interesting characters, rather than 4 Boring Immunity whores. Unlike what your mindset is Survivor isn't about the Challenges. |
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Posts: 127 (07/01/08 1:57 PM) |
He thinks we are fans of American Gladiators
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Posts: 116 (07/01/08 5:58 PM) |
SFC wrote: Your distorted thinking is what gave us the "characters" Kathy and Chet.
Your distorted thinking fails.
The game is called "Survivor", it is about Surviving, Outplay, Outwit, Outlast.
Which "character" do you find so interesting, who do you relate to? Are you a lil gay elf? A sloppy hippo? A pea-brained bim?
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doc |
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Posts: 160 (07/01/08 6:09 PM) |
So you really think Christina was the 2nd best chef? That's little Gordon doing the thinking.
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Posts: 219 (07/01/08 7:23 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! |
Two questions for you.
You state that the stronger players are taken out of the game pre-merge by the weaker players. Where exactly did Ozzy, Jason, and Eric leave this season? Where did Chet and Kathy leave this season? kthxbai
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getting real |
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Posts: 1227 (07/01/08 8:20 PM) Registered User |
Talkers generally become talkers because they fail at actually doing, and the reason they fail is because they are weak-willed.Interesting attempt to shake things up but your basic premise fails because you are introducing your own value judgements as to what constitutes a good player. You are trying to introduce "deservingness" into a final outcome where deservingness is itself determined by the people who make it to the end. By definition, the people who make it to the end deserve to be there, by whatever means they used to get there. In their own way, they out-witted and out-played. Certainly, they outlasted. Wishing that a different type of people made it to the finals merely reflects your own value judgements and your approval of people with similar characterstics to yours. |
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Posts: 386 (07/01/08 8:56 PM) Registered user |
ArtieeLange1 wrote: I tend to relate to the type that realizes a crappy idea when they see one
You on the other hand relate to Doctor Sean, the type that thinks they have a ground breaking idea, but everyone else with a brain knows it's idiotic, and you just can't grasp the fact that their idea fails. |
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Posts: 117 (07/01/08 11:49 PM) |
getting real wrote: You're confusing my comments about casting to my idea for the game. General consensus is casting sucks because the players suck, hopefully they are
taking steps to resolve this (like lowering the age from 21 to 18).
The outcome of the current game is determined by 1) losers bonding during the team-segment, and 2) then the individual challenges. The latter is always
fair because it gives all the players an equal chance. The problem is that the former doesn't. Better players are penalized by a) being stuck on a loser
team and b) being voted off by mobbed up losers, and the worse players are rewarded by the same aspects.
Other shows, that don't lose a million viewers per season, have a clear definition of "deservedness". From Jeopardy to AI, Ultimate Fighter,
Hells Kitchen, The Mole, etc.
Winners of Survivor? Winners of Survivor can't even build a fuckin fire. |
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Posts: 600 (07/01/08 11:59 PM) Registered user |
All those shows you mentioned aren't even close to survivor. I mean a trivia competition, cooking show, and fucking American Idol you can't compare those to survivor. Also in case you weren't aware all those shows are losing viewers and lowering ratings. TV ratings are lower in general all across the board ever since the writers strike. |
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getting real |
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Posts: 1228 (07/02/08 12:15 AM) Registered User |
Winners of Survivor? Winners of Survivor can't even build a fuckin fire.I think you've misunderstood what it is Survivors need to survive. It's not nature, or the elements... It's each other. Other than deprivation adding adding a sharper edge to people's behavior, survival in this game is not far removed from the game of life. How many people do you see in real life who are successful because they're the strongest or the most intelligent? Not as many as those who can best juggle their relationships with others. Survivor, in this game as well as in life, is about surviving relationships. The rest, my friend, are mere bagatelles. |
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Posts: 122 (07/02/08 7:16 AM) Registered User |
getting real wrote: GR has hit the nail on the head. "Sole Survivor" is merely the person who has outwitted, outplayed and outlasted the others. Not the one who out-fire-builted. I believe that whoever makes it to the final 2 actually deserves to be in the final 2, whether that's by brawn, brain or coattail. Now, please let me go look up bagatelles. |
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Posts: 118 (07/02/08 7:44 AM) |
getting real wrote:
Look Mr. Rogers, you're describing "Big Brother"...or "The Bachelor". Thats Parvatis game, the bimbos game, and it appears to be your game as well. If Courtney was on season 1, she probably would have died of starvation as her body fed off itself. As the game got weak, the players got weak, and the
only ones who still think it works? Weak viewers.
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Posts: 130 (07/02/08 9:14 AM) |
ArtieeLange1 wrote: The game is called "Survivor", it is about Surviving, Outplay, Outwit, Outlast.
Yeah, I relate to Todd, I hang out with several guys who Todd would fit right in with. Cerie, yeah I would hang out with her, she seems to be a cool chick.
I do not find any thing that would be common ground with truckwaffle. You dont understand the concept, you should not ever turn off the UFC channel.
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Posts: 1229 (07/02/08 10:34 AM) Registered User |
ArtieeLange1 wrote: 
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Posts: 131 (07/02/08 10:47 AM) |
^^ Weak viewers? ^^
I would challenge Artie to an arm wrestling match anyday plus Sunday. And, the hot guys should always win 
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Posts: 119 (07/02/08 9:32 PM) |
tubecam wrote: Come to NYC, I would snap your arm off, beat you up with your own arm, and then turn to the crowd of onlookers "In real life, there are clear winners, and clear losers (here I would point at you, using your own arm). In "Survivor", that loser (points to the sobbing, bloody mess that is you) could bring along another group of people, resulting in an unfair competition n the 'team' portion of the game. That weakling (points) could outlast me. Are there any questions?" Bystander: "Don't the individual challenges represent fair competition, like we just witnessed here?" Me: "Yes, the problem is those who make it there do so by the skewed "team" segment. It should be eliminated or adjusted" Crowd, looking at you: "We understand and agree."
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