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Posts: 106 (06/29/08 3:38 AM) |
SFC wrote: Damn can you be any more sexist
If you think only men can be the alphas, then have two winners: physical, and intellectual/social.
The only thing Parv and Re-Todd represent are the failure of the game called "Survivor."
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survivorisdabest |
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Posts: 2107 (06/29/08 4:23 AM) Registered User |
omg OMG OMG OMG GO AWAY
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Kitty Pryde1 |
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Posts: 4964 (06/29/08 9:53 AM) |
Actually, Parvati and Todd represent the intellectual/social aspects of Survivor, which you've made quite clear you don't think should exist or EVER
triumph over brute strength, given that you reference a show on MTV as an example of good television. You state that Dreamz was an idiot, yet under your
system, he would fare similarly, given that your system rewards the strong, regardless of their level of intellect. You also seem to have a problem with Joel
getting outlasted by Chet, when Joel was also "an idiot" given that he was the reason Chet survived through three tribal councils. Your points are
flawed and hypocritical and you're wrong. Now get the fuck outta here.
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Vumberkin |
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Posts: 1 (06/29/08 12:14 PM) |
I think Todd is one of the most overrated winners of all time. His competitors were horrible strategists. His win is comparable to Hatch's in terms of the
lack of competition. Parvati's win was more impressive...only half of the cast were idiots for her win. She got a bit lucky with the injuries to Penner and
James.
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finishthemoff |
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Posts: 8907 (06/29/08 10:57 PM) Registered user |
Parvati's win is slightly more impressive than Todd but not by much.
Fans are nothing more than glorified cannon fodders. |
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ArtieeLange |
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Posts: 107 (06/30/08 2:00 AM) |
Kitty Pryde1 wrote: You still haven't realized that challenges vary between puzzles, dexterity, balance, memory, endurance....and yet you think you can figure out how systems would play out and how players would react, you think you can understand the cause-effect and can predict results with any degree of certainty? You?
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SFC |
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Posts: 381 (06/30/08 2:28 AM) Registered user |
ArtieeLange wrote: So, if the challenges are varied, between mental and physical If it is a Mental Challenge, The Smarter will win, while the Physical players and the weaker go to Tribal Council; Physically strong goes. If it is a Physical Challenge, The Stronger will win, whilst the Smarter and the weaker go to Tribal Council; Mentally strong goes. Lets do a hypothetical situation, 5 mental and 5 physical, and who would be targettedafter they lost. Mental Challenges: Joel, Ozzy, James, Erik, Jason Physical Challenges: Eliza, Fairplay, Yau Man, Tracy, Cirie. Final 10 of Parvati, Amanda, Natalie, Alexis, Ami, Kathy, Jonathan, Chet, Mikey B. Mary Yep, Your system sure weeds out the losers. 
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 Avilsta |
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Posts: 182 (06/30/08 5:24 AM) |
And with your system, the weaker will bond together more than on the current system.
Let's take Airai as an example. Kathy/Chet/Tracy were out-casted for being old and weak and Chet/Tracy/Kathy were targeted for the first TC they attended but the only reason them not being voted out were because of an idiot (Joel), whom would have made it far into the game as he would have won more ICs than the others, were paranoid and voted Mary out. So, if your new system is some how picked by EPMB, the weaker people would bond together to get the numbers being that they were going to tribal council every 3 days since they probably have no chance of winning immunity at all. So, that way, the "deserving" people will have a higher chance of being voted early off in your system than the current system as weak people do get voted out, only a handful make it past the merge due to them either being strategical or being lucky or landing up on a dominant tribe like Koror/Moto/Fei Long |
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ArtieeLange1 |
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Posts: 113 (06/30/08 8:07 AM) |
SFC wrote: Another ASSumption of yours, that a player can only reach the top half in a physical or mental challenge, but not both.
False logic = false conclusions. |
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tubecam |
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Posts: 121 (06/30/08 9:35 AM) |
The hot guy should always win.
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m0t0 maj1 |
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Posts: 599 (06/30/08 9:48 AM) |
can we just all agree to follow that? LOL
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Posts: 154 (06/30/08 10:36 AM) |
ArtieeLange1 wrote: May not be as cut and dry as that, but it is close. And at least he gives examples, unlike you, you chicken shit. |
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Posts: 155 (06/30/08 10:39 AM) |
tubecam wrote:
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SFC |
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Posts: 382 (06/30/08 11:41 AM) Registered user |
ArtieeLange1 wrote: Well to be fair the smart ones were always the physical liabilities, and chances are that at least 1 strong person would fall into the bottom half of a mental Challenge. |
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Posts: 1 (06/30/08 12:45 PM) |
ArtieeLange1 wrote:
False logic = false conclusions. _____________________________ I like that. |
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tubecam |
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Posts: 122 (06/30/08 3:29 PM) |
The hot guy should always win
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ArtieeLange1 |
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Posts: 114 (07/01/08 12:56 AM) |
oh ehm gee wrote: Turns out they were second best, just like Christina or Petrozza.
oh ehm gee wrote: Did you forget we went over this already? The endgames reward having fewer weaker players.
oh ehm gee wrote: just plain racist given how final episodes have had similar demographics oh ehm gee wrote: If you like ranking so much, do RW/RR winners vs. Survivor winners. Parvati would be stirring her witches brew with a broken arm. Re-Todd would first to go home, instead of last.
Last Edited By: ArtieeLange1
07/01/08 1:22 AM.
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Posts: 1552 (07/01/08 2:08 AM) |
Re-Todd would first to go home, instead of last.Check your grammar before you call other people retards. |
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Posts: 1143 (07/01/08 5:55 AM) |
All of my rankings are based on entertainment value, not skill as it pertains to the game. Granted, Parvati and Todd would still be near the bottom, but that's mainly because they weren't very entertaining IMO. Additionally, considering that Casey, Ibis, Cara and Veronica all won the final missions, I wouldn't really be discussing how awesome the RW/RR challengers are (which, yet again, deals with casting). |
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imPhotog |
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Posts: 11 (07/01/08 6:39 AM) Registered user |
Survivor has three aspects involved. If you pigeon hole things into strong or weak, you degrade the game. We haven't had a complete winner since Tom. As
long as actors and wannabes are cast, this will continue to be a delima and downfall of Survivor. Entertainment value comes from a good cast, good setting and
letting the players play. First off, you have to have good players.
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