| Started By | Comment | ||
|---|---|---|---|
 m0t0 maj1 |
|||
|
Posts: 589 (06/18/08 10:18 PM) |
ArtieeLange wrote: WTF I'm asking a valid question.
|
||
|
ArtieeLange |
|||
|
Posts: 87 (06/19/08 8:21 AM) |
doc wrote: How many times are you gonna name-drop Terry? Are you obsessed with him? Are you in love with him? |
||
|
Kitty Pryde1 |
|||
|
Posts: 4796 (06/19/08 9:45 AM) |
Well under YOUR system, the game becomes completely individual at the final 4, right? Well that that point, you'd basically have the two strongest players
(Ozzy/Erik) and two of the weakest players (Tracy/Cirie) left in the game. Regardless of who would win immunity, they weak players would work with one of the
strong players work to vote the other strong player out, leaving a final 3 of two weak and one strong. And then you either have a final 3 in which the jury
votes for one of the losers to win because they had to strategize more, or another challenge leading, most likely to a weak vs. strong showdown, in which the
odds favor the weak player winning. As much as I would love to see Tracy or Cirie win, there are too many fans out there like you who have hard-ons for alpha
males and immunity whores, so the ratings would drop even MORE than they do now.
|
||
|
ArtieeLange |
|||
|
Posts: 88 (06/19/08 2:23 PM) |
Kitty Pryde1 wrote: Where to begin correcting you. Once again your ass-umptions get the better of you, assuming that the teams under my system will remain stable, assuming the
same players will always win and lose challenges, assuming you can predict the final 4, and your BIGgest ASSumption is that assuming any final 4 under my
system would have "weak" players. Even accepting all your silly assumptions, the final 2 of each group will have beaten everyone else in their
respective team, whether they remained uniform or not, which doesn't matter.
|
||
|
tubecam |
|||
|
Posts: 98 (06/19/08 2:57 PM) |
Why would anyone watch the show at all if it was just a parade of predictable eliminations?
Is there much drama in what order Yau-Man, Eliza, Kathy and Chet get voted out? Eliza Rawked all the puzzle challenges, and balance but not being "Strong" she deserves no place in Artie's Show which is nothing like Survivor. |
||
|
Kitty Pryde1 |
|||
|
Posts: 4825 (06/19/08 3:11 PM) |
You're the one who wants the game to be all about challenges. Honestly, you're talking like you think Chet deserves a fair chance under your system,
yet you act like Chet would be one of the first boots which he wouldn't be.
|
||
|
ArtieeLange |
|||
|
Posts: 89 (06/19/08 5:34 PM) |
Kitty Pryde1 wrote: They all deserve a fair chance, dummy, and my system will offer that by eliminating chance-based teams.
Last Edited By: ArtieeLange
06/19/08 8:29 PM.
Edited 1 times.
|
||
|
doc |
|||
|
Posts: 101 (06/19/08 6:48 PM) |
You look at Palau's boot order and it looks like how Artie's system would really work, now how he thinks it would work. A mixture of
"strong" and "weakies" getting booted, with a run of of decent players halfway through consisting James, Ibrehem, BJ, and even bad ass
Sumo star Coby. Look at the F7. You never said what group gets the odd person, along with alot of other things, I'm giving the loser group the extra
person. The IC is a strength 1, say all the guys win. So in the loser group you have Steph, Caryn, Jenn, and Katie. Gee, I wonder who they'd pick?? Say
the Next Ic is something like mostly balance, and the winners are Tom, Ian and Jenn, Losers are Gregg, Caryn and Katie. DUH, Gregg's Gone. Next IC the
losers are Caryn, Jenn, and Katie. Jenn would seem the logical boot. But Caryn and Katie have been in the losers group so much that Katie can't take
Caryn anymore, can you blame her? Can't go any further cause your system breaks down. But the F4 is exactly like youd' Expect Jenn, Ian, Katie, Tom.
So there you go, the worst season in Survivor history, with the biggest ratings drop, same result. Every one loves Tom so they give him a million. Some day
when I have more time I'll add the first 12 boots, unless someone else wants to. The only thing that doesn't quit work out is Jonathan and Jolanda
going back to back so early. You need a few more losers going first.
|
||
|
doc |
|||
|
Posts: 102 (06/19/08 6:50 PM) |
LOL, ya i'm in lovw iwth Terry, that's why I'm always bashing the idiot.
|
||
|
ArtieeLange |
|||
|
Posts: 90 (06/19/08 8:36 PM) |
tubecam wrote: Which means she will do great under my system, and if there are any challenges she isn't great at, she only has to be in the top half, not first place.
Elizalien is another example of a strong player getting fucked by the current system, simply because she didnt buddy up with the witch-bims and their pet
hippopotamus.
|
||
|
doc |
|||
|
Posts: 106 (06/20/08 12:13 AM) |
Have you actually ever seen Survivor? She did approach Parv, but at that time Parv had her 5 way alliance and 3 way alliance with Nat and That Girl. And
Eliza tried to get out Parv on ep 1, and Eliza and Amanda don't like each other. SO no alliance was happening there. Her problem in Micronesia was JFP
dropping out and Cirie Jumping ship casue of Pnner and Yau Man., then she never had the numbers and was allied with an idiot.
And just so you know she was 4th in Vanuatu using the "broken" system. She made a mistake of trusting the person whose head was on the chopping block Over a close ally ( A mistake made very often). Even though she was probably destined for 4th anyway, if she handled things differently, she might have got to 2nd, or even won. I'm amazed you gave her any credit, you know she's a woman? Any other women impress you. Maybe Kelly Wigglesworth (Won last 5 challenges in Borneo), or Steph, or Ami? Let you figure out who those last 2 are. Which means she will do great under my system, and if there are any challenges she isn't great at, she only has to be in the top half, not first place. Except when there's less and less people. Then she becomes a huge target. Under the current system, she's a great ally. |
||
|
ArtieeLange |
|||
|
Posts: 91 (06/20/08 3:23 AM) |
doc wrote: Steph was everyones first indication that something is wrong with the game, no one deserved to win more than she did, and she got screwed by being attached to a team. The girls of RW vs. RR Chalenge are much more impressive, although its possible it just seems that way because that game really brings out the best (and worst) in its players. Also they are younger so aren't content to sit on their asses and do nothing (again, probably a result of the game). Ruthie was barely 5 feet tall and 90 lbs, but she was a fuckin warrior.
|
||
|
doc |
|||
|
Posts: 107 (06/20/08 10:50 AM) |
Wow, praising 2 more women? Are you ill?
Add if Palau had a switch, which I'm betting you hate, Steph would have gone farther. Look at the history of Survivor. First 2 seasons, no switch, becomes simply a game of numbers post merge called, being Pagonged, because usually no one will ally with someone they just met over someone they been with 20 some odd days. Africa and Marquees has a switch. Thailand has no switch, but Shia Ann is an outsider in her tribe is ready to turn but gets messed up by the phony merge. Amazon has a switch. Pearl Islands has no swich, but has the Outcaasts instead,Rupert welcomes back Burton, Andrew doesn't do the same to Lil, instead of 5-5 it's 6-4, outcasts does the same as a switch.ASS and Vanutu has a switch. Palau Doesn't, Ulong gets ulonged. From then on They always have a switch, Or at least like in Panama a combine. Game is unpredictable but they learn from their mistakes. Best switch was Africa because they didn't know what was happening. Unfortunately, they can't do that again. Worst was in China, because the strong got targeted immediately. but the greatness that is Survivor, even when they make a mistake, it still makes for good TV. Talking about throwing challenges. Switching in Micronesia keeps the fans in the game, without it faves take 8-2 or 7-3 into the merge. The switch works, keeps things interesting, favors people who can adapt like Cirie, it's be unfair to some, but if it prevents another Palau, it's worth it. Why don't you show how under your system, Steph makes the F2i n Palau? |
||
|
CSCin3D |
|||
|
Posts: 8335 (06/20/08 12:48 PM) Registered user |
If Steph was so great, shouldn't she have led her team to victory in the challenges? She couldn't even beat Coby.
|
||
|
oh ehm gee |
|||
|
Posts: 1115 (06/20/08 3:38 PM) |
ArtieeLange wrote: Point the first: Steph made merge. In spite of the extreme difference, she could've tried to widen the cracks in Koror. Additionally, she was the third
juror so she made some inroads within Koror. I dislike greatly the idea that Steph was this victim of her shitty tribe
(she was, but not to the degree that people put it); rather, she had the chance to compete in an individual game and failed.
|
||
 Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
|||
|
Posts: 3933 (06/20/08 10:45 PM) Registered user |
SURVIVOR IS NOT A MOTHER FUCKING SPORT! STFU YOU MORON.WHO THE HELL ARE YOU,MARK BURNETT?
|
||
|
yosimtesam |
|||
|
Posts: 397 (06/20/08 10:58 PM) |
im thinking that tar should go survivor style.... they get no money .....maybe even no airfare; in other words, its how ever you get there...
|
||
|
ArtieeLange |
|||
|
Posts: 92 (06/21/08 9:28 AM) |
oh ehm gee wrote: Being forced to "widen cracks" simply because you're on a different randomly selected team is why the game fails.
oh ehm gee wrote: Where everyone knew how tough she was, and voted her off early. Again, proving the game fails.
oh ehm gee wrote: She destroyed everyone on her "team". Though it is the first "segment" of the game, its the only thing a player can truly do on their
own. The team kept losing, she kept surviving.
oh ehm gee wrote:
The last three RW/RR seasons have been more challenging, wiith a better cast, and better challenges, and therefore more entertaining to watch then the last
Survivor season. RW/RR starting players would kill Survivors starting players. RW/RR winners would kill Survivor winners. Because RW/RR tests the players
better, physically, mentally. It's time to see more Survivor contestants puking from exhausation, starvation, and not just bitches crying about not seeing
their daddy, or a bruised heel.
|
||
|
doc |
|||
|
Posts: 110 (06/21/08 10:54 AM) |
Holy Crap. that's' the dumbest thing you said so far. You really thought she was an early boot?? She came in second in Guatemala, Einstein. Watch the show some before you comment on how it can be fixed. Even you comment about randomly selected teams is kinda stupid. First off, they weren't completely random, they did a schoolyard pick. And "Widen the cracks" is part of the game. It's gotten people farther even helped some win, like Chris and Danni. Go on show how she wins in Palau under your system. I'm thinking she gets just about as far. The fact that you think she deserves to win more than anyone else leads me to believe you're not Terry. I'm starting to think you're Chicken, you annoy the hell out of everyone with you "expert" advice, but when someone asks a question you clam up. Are you a fat drunken Redneck?oh ehm gee wrote:
Last Edited By: doc
06/21/08 10:56 AM.
Edited 1 times.
|
||
|
oh ehm gee |
|||
|
Posts: 1121 (06/21/08 12:59 PM) |
Not to defend him, but Artiee was clearly being sarcastic there.
Incidentally, I'm pretty sure being on a tribe with a bunch of her fantards and other people who were snowed by her amazingness was a stroke of luck made possible by the use of semi-permanent teams. An aside, I would've much rather saved her and BJ for Half-ASS, since they would surely have replaced JFP and either Amanda or Parvati. |
||
She would kick your, Amandas and Parvs ass at the same time. 
