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SuperJude |
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This thread is the Herpes Simplex 2 of the Sucks forum!
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 6139 (11/28/08 2:06 PM) Registered user |
Well fed? Why should the winning tribe get a luxury camp?
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CSCin3D |
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My only real problem with this is I think that if the losers are sent to the crap camp, then the same group of people will continue to lose over and over again
(just like in Fiji). But other than that I aactually like the idea of this.
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ArtieeLange |
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Fizzmix wrote:Look everyone ^ Fixxmix just proved his own argument invalid by noting that players will do anything for guaranteed immunity, because they know, even if he doesn't, that alliances are never guaranteed. Guaranteed. |
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ArtieeLange |
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Fizzmix wrote:Look everyone ^ Fizzmix just invalidated his own argument...again Results? A far more entertaining game to watch. A game that votes out the overall worst, and ends with the overall best. |
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token lunatic |
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Artie, even if you stripped Survivor of all the lame twists and all of the manipulations that equalize the weak and the strong, you will never be able to eliminate the the random factor--that is, events and things that are beyond the players control ie weather, someone getting hurt, a "strong" player who can not handle hunger and fatigue(Steph from Thailand), etc. The ultimate great player is someone who is mentally strong, not esp from a tactical point of view, but someone who can withstand the inevitable banality of being forced to live with strangers in close quarters for an indefinite amount of time, who can dodge the social landmines, perhaps planting them themselves, who can be flexible with their basic strategy, who can rebound when their opponents do experience windfalls, who can maximize each opportunity and turn it into their advantage, and who can minimize damage to themselves and to their alliance. |
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Kitty Pryde1 |
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ArtieeLange wrote: Uh, how is someone who excels in EVERYTHING except holding his breath "overall worst"? Your system votes out the best. The current system votes out the worst. If you really want the game to encourage competition, then you need to make tribes last longer, rather than making the game individual at the merge. That way the worst are consistently voted out as weak links in challenges, rather than the best being voted out as threats to win. |
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token lunatic |
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The weak is voted out when necessary. The threats are voted out when necessary. In the end it comes down to a politiical game, not just a numbers game. Colby got to the end. Sure it might have been b/c he was cute and loved his momma, but he was not only a strong player, more importantly a smart player. |
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ArtieeLange |
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Kitty Pryde1 wrote:Really? Kitty Pryde1 wrote:I own you. |
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Mike8787 |
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Kitty Pryde1 wrote:I don't know what show you're watching, but the best at challenges have never lasted. Yes, the first few episodes weed out the weakest, but then the strongest go. You end up with some other weaker players in the finals, at least a few who slid under the radar. That's why it's called "under the radar". |
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token lunatic |
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The strongest goes huh. The strongest who has played a shitty social and political game goes.
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Mike8787 |
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Token, do you just follow me around spewing idiocy? Clearly alliances would change this fact. But it is a general truth that the most threatening players are
voted out to avoid them winning immunity and screwing up the others' alliance plans.
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token lunatic |
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I think the whole talk about the strong gets the shaft is a bunch of malarky. Survivor gave the definition of strength a new meaning. It's Crystal Cox, BABY. |
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ArtieeLange |
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oh ehm gee wrote:Lolz at claiming "blatant producer manipulation" without citing specifics. |
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lemurwrench |
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ArtieeLange wrote: |
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lemurwrench |
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ArtieeLange wrote: in seventeen seasons only once has a tribe never lost immunity, and even then they lost a member so a weak player may be safe, temporarily, but eventually thier tribe will go to tribal council and they will be voted off. |
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lemurwrench |
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ArtieeLange wrote: except that what he said is actually false, this is proved by the moto tribe in fiji when they chose to vote someone out over goig to the ravu camp and suffering. |
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lemurwrench |
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ArtieeLange wrote: first of all, you did not explain the lack of contradiction, please do so. all you did was describe each quote but maybe you need me to explain the contradiction. you said that people who dont have social strategy will be voted out, but you also said the need for docial strategy is irrelevant if the need for social strategy is irrelevant, than people not havintg social strategy would have no effect on them getting voted out, but you are saying it does. how does that make any sense? or are you unaware of the meaning of irrelevant do you have a developmental disability???????? |
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ArtieeLange |
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lemurwrench wrote:do you have a developmental disability???????? What I said, douchial, was that your opinion of when a player needed social strategy is irrelevant. |
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Dictatorship |
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I've really grown to like your idea, Artie. I think it should be implemented asap. Any other ingenious thoughts?
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