Can't wait to read, GF!
Ace - 7
Bob - 9
Charlie - 7
Corinne - 3
Crystal - 10
Dan - 8
G.C. - 3
Gillian - 10
Jacquie - 6
Kelly - 7
Ken - 10
Marcus - 2
Matty - 2
Michelle - 2
Paloma - 4
Randy - 6
Sugar - 5
Susie - 8
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Reading what Jeff thinks about the castaways really reminded me of what I thought some of them could do. Man, was I wrong. But it brings me back to a time
where I didn't hate Corinne and Charlie and surprisingly didn't like Sugar and Michelle.
Can't wait to read, GF! Ace - 7 Bob - 9 Charlie - 7 Corinne - 3 Crystal - 10 Dan - 8 G.C. - 3 Gillian - 10 Jacquie - 6 Kelly - 7 Ken - 10 Marcus - 2 Matty - 2 Michelle - 2 Paloma - 4 Randy - 6 Sugar - 5 Susie - 8 |
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The funny thing is that Crystal is my favorite one from the show, but before the premiere I remembered not caring about her, my favorites being Ace & Kelly
(and look how that turned out). And now I'm hoping that Ace and Kelly do well on your fanfic too!
Ace - 8 (positive because he seems like a good character) Bob - 5 (he's just 'meh' as he's only resourceful and that's it) Charlie - 8 (hopefully Fanfic Charlie does much better than Real Charlie, good thing he's on a separate tribe than Marcus) Corinne - 3 (it's hard to like her at all) MASSIVE Crystal - 9 (i'll be rooting for her the whole way) Dan - 6 (he doesn't shake me good or bad) G.C. - 5 (same as Dan) Gillian - 8 (high expectations from her) Jacquie - 9 (Jacquie was one of my favorites until her boot ep, which was still disappointing. she'll be the 'sweetheart' I presume) Kelly - 8 (unless you turn her into a total douche like CBS did on the show, she'll be likeable) Ken - 4 (he'll go early) Marcus - 5 (can't decide if I'll like him or not) Matty - 5 (same as Marcus) Michelle - 7 (her backstory is interesting) Paloma - 9 (the whole African school thing adds to my favor for her) Randy - 6 (he's not a 2 because I sense you'll make him more likeable than a complete ass) Sugar - 3 (she's going to cry...and cry) Susie - 5 (don't know what she's going to be like yet) |
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As much as I think Bob and Crystal would be hilariously interesting, I think Fang is more diverse and unique. I mean, 5 pretty young people who're basically ONLY pretty and young on Kota kinda spells doom for that tribe, unless we get some CrystalOWNAGE.KittyPryde1: I agree that Fang is more diverse and there's 5 young people on Kota who might be considered a little bland / generic, but trust me when I say that both tribes have VERY interesting dynamics and I don't think you'll be disappointed with either. I'd definitely prefer you to just post the first two episodes separately. It often takes me around 3 hours to read and comment on each episode with how I often write up detailed posts for each episode, and these days with my busy schedule it's hard to find that kind of time unless it's a Saturday. I don't want it to take even longer then your finales for me to read and comment on the episode (as for the finales I only have 4 or 5 people to rate, not 18). MasterDarkNinja: Nice to hear from you. I hadn't seen you around in Edgic this season but I figured you were busy with school. I am going to do two separate episodes like normally. Me suggesting the double episode was me not thinking. It would definitely take up too much time, as you said, and I really appreciate the quality of your posts and the time you put into them. I'm glad you will be reading again this season and I hope you enjoy this season! Take care. :) Fallentorch: Hello. Thanks for joining in the fun. Glad to know that you've enjoyed those seasons! Right now I like Kota for the simple fact that Crystal was my favorite on the show and cannot wait to see if she will prove to be a challenge threat in your story. Anyways I'd like to submit my votes for the preseason popularity rankings (if that's possible, I know some people will only take votes and such from members with 100 or so posts) I'll try to do this based on how I percieved them originally.Definitely. Anyone is free to do popularity ratings - in fact, I would like to encourage as many new posters to participate as possible, so I appreciate you joining and being the first person to do so. :) Anyways good luck with your story, and I'll be reading it!I appreciate that. Have a great night! Apollo Italiano: Reading what Jeff thinks about the castaways really reminded me of what I thought some of them could do. Man, was I wrong. But it brings me back to a time where I didn't hate Corinne and Charlie and surprisingly didn't like Sugar and Michelle.Great to hear from you again. Yeah, some of the people in the real season definitely surprised me by doing either a lot better or worse than I thought they would. I was completely off on how long some of them would go, but I think most of their characters will be pretty accurate in my story. Thanks for your ratings. Can't wait to read, GF!Thanks. And I can't wait to post it either! :) J Daviau: The funny thing is that Crystal is my favorite one from the show, but before the premiere I remembered not caring about her, my favorites being Ace & Kelly (and look how that turned out). And now I'm hoping that Ace and Kelly do well on your fanfic too!It definitely seems like Crystal is going to be a big favorite this season. I'm not too surprised by that, but we'll see what her character is like in my version. Charlie - 8 (hopefully Fanfic Charlie does much better than Real Charlie, good thing he's on a separate tribe than Marcus)Hopefully he's shown more too. He was pretty ignored in the real show for about 5 episodes in a row. Kelly - 8 (unless you turn her into a total douche like CBS did on the show, she'll be likeable)Well, she won't be completely ignored for the first 2-3 episodes, which is probably a good sign. Randy - 6 (he's not a 2 because I sense you'll make him more likeable than a complete ass)Whether he's likeable, unlikeable, or completely neutral, he's bound to be a great character, I think. Thanks so much for your ratings and those detailed thoughts. I enjoyed reading all of them! :) |
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Now that the tribes are up, let's get things started:
Please participate in the pre-show Popularity poll by rating each castaway from 1-10. 1 is the lowest and ten is the highest. I will post the results before the December 29. I know you will have to base these a little bit on what the castaways were like on the show and that's okay since these are only pre-ratings, but please try to think back to your original opinions of the cast, if possible. Ace - Bob - Charlie - Corinne - Crystal - Dan - G.C. - Gillian - Jacquie - Kelly - Ken - Marcus - Matty - Michelle - Paloma - Randy - Sugar - Susie - Thank you very much for your replies to this poll. I look forward to having you all involved with the upcoming season, and I hope you all enjoy it. Take care! :) |
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I am not rating anyone below a 5...
Ace - 6 Bob - 7 Charlie - 7 Corinne - 7 Crystal - 10 Dan - 7 G.C. - 8 Gillian - 8 Jacquie - 5 Kelly - 5 Ken - 8 Marcus - 5 Matty - 5 Michelle - 9 Paloma - 8 Randy - 10 Sugar - 5 Susie - 10 Basically my pre-show faves of the real Gabon. |
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Ace - 6
Bob - 4 Charlie - 10 Corinne - 7 Crystal - 6 Dan - 7 G.C. - 5 Gillian - 3 Jacquie - 8 Kelly - 2 Ken - 8 Marcus - 7 Matty - 2 Michelle - 6 Paloma - 6 Randy - 6 Sugar - 1 Susie - 5 I made this average out to 5.5/person
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I can't wait to see how this season will play out. Things (sadly) don't look that good for Susie. Hopefully, like in the real game, she'll align
with Crystal and Matty and will make it far into the game.
Here are my (albeit biased) pre-show popularity poll rankings: Ace - 5 Bob - 7 Charlie - 6 Corinne - 7 Crystal - 10 Dan - 5 G.C. - 4 Gillian - 10 Jacquie - 7 Kelly - 8 Ken - 6 Marcus - 5 Matty - 7 Michelle - 6 Paloma - 7 Randy - 8 Sugar - 9 Susie - 10 |
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Thank you very much for your ratings, YemaGrl1988, menelaus, and MMan9000!
I can't wait to see how this season will play out. Things (sadly) don't look that good for Susie. Hopefully, like in the real game, she'll align with Crystal and Matty and will make it far into the game.Jeff's thoughts should be considered "before the game." In the Press Conference next week, there will be some updated thoughts that may support his pre-show predictions or may indicate that certain players surprised him. These pre-thoughts are loosely based on what I expected from the characters before the show, although obviously they're a bit more geared towards this fanfic, so some of them may not be accurate, but I definitely did not try to deliberately mislead on any of them. You guys are all amazing! You make everything I put into these fanfics worth the effort! :) |
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Ooo, quite the Christmas gift to see this up early! I am extremely excited for this. I just updated the Wikia with tribes and everything. For my ranking:
Ace - 7 Bob - 4 Charlie - 3 Corinne - 8 Crystal - 9 Dan - 4 G.C. - 6 Gillian - 8 Jacquie - 2 Kelly - 5 Ken - 7 Marcus - 7 Matty - 4 Michelle - 5 Paloma - 4 Randy - 9 Sugar - 7 Susie - 6 These are basically based on the entertainment factor. I looked at Jeff's comments to see who he claims will be entertaining (Crystal, Randy, Corrine) and who will be boring (Charlie, Jacquie, Dan). Gotta say I'm liking Fang better than Kota. Though you said you're going to make both tribes interesting and I fully trust you. It looks like there are great characters on both tribes to make some great strategy. As always, I'm rooting for some people like Gillian and Randy who Probst claimed wouldn't go very far to go to the endgame. Especially Gillian; I always love it when you bring people who barely see the game in the real show to go far to see how they might've played the game. I also really liked the choice of playing Kelly as perhaps a "dumb blonde" and Sugar as the actress/manipulator. It really helps distinguish between the tree blondes, which is great since they're all on the same tribe. I really don't believe one tribe is going to run away with it. And if they do, I think either a couple of switches or a semi-chaotic post-merge will prevent a predictable endgame. Speaking of endgame, my prediction to win is actually Charlie. He'll get far under the nice guy strategy, find himself in the end with a couple of big strategists, yet highly negative people (i.e. Sugar in the real show) and end up winning. Can't wait for this season to start! |
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Hello Mr X. Thank you very much for your ratings and for sharing those thoughts/predictions for the season! :)
The real Christmas gift will be that I'm putting up the first 5ish pages of the premiere on Christmas. I just have to figure out how much is *too much* to post before the premiere, but to still make it a worthwhile preview. I just updated the Wikia with tribes and everything.Thank you very much. That was going to be my next project for the night, but I appreciate you doing it. Once again, all the work you put into that site is amazing and I'm very grateful. :) Gotta say I'm liking Fang better than Kota. Though you said you're going to make both tribes interesting and I fully trust you. It looks like there are great characters on both tribes to make some great strategy.Yes, and I do mean this. Each tribe has a very unique dynamic on it and it's really interesting to see the breakdown of the different characters once we're a few episodes into the story. I don't want to sound too gung ho or anything, but I really think this is a GREAT tribal breakdown and I can't wait for you guys to see them in action. I'm rooting for some people like Gillian and Randy who Probst claimed wouldn't go very far to go to the endgame. Especially Gillian; I always love it when you bring people who barely see the game in the real show to go far to see how they might've played the game. I also really liked the choice of playing Kelly as perhaps a "dumb blonde" and Sugar as the actress/manipulator. It really helps distinguish between the tree blondes, which is great since they're all on the same tribe.Yeah, it's always nice if it ends up with a mixture of some characters that didn't last in the real show and some that made it far. I think every season so far has had a good variety, so hopefully Gabon will too. Having all three blondes on Kota was the one thing I questioned quite a bit, but I'm glad you caught on to those differences in character, hopefully not just with those three but with others too. I really don't believe one tribe is going to run away with it. And if they do, I think either a couple of switches or a semi-chaotic post-merge will prevent a predictable endgame. Speaking of endgame, my prediction to win is actually Charlie. He'll get far under the nice guy strategy, find himself in the end with a couple of big strategists, yet highly negative people (i.e. Sugar in the real show) and end up winning.Thank you for those predictions! Can't wait for this season to start!:) Have a great night! |
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Ace - 4 (not my favorite person, but entertaining.)
Bob - 6 (I like him, but he's probably going to be a tad boring.) Charlie - 10 (He knows Survivor and will probably make some big moves.) Corinne - 7 (Entertaining, smart, and not well-liked... the perfect jury member.) Crystal - 8 (I hope she'll be a big character... And will stay for a long time.) Dan - 6 (I like Dan and I think you can do a lot with him... I don't think you will though.) G.C. - 3 (He reminds me so much of Dreamz... I really hope he goes before the merge.) Gillian - 3 (So irratating...even in pre-show interviews. I hope she survives the first tribal council though.) Jacquie - 10 (One of my two pre-show favorites... Strong, smart, and beautiful. I would love it if she won, but you'll really have to work hard with her character.) Kelly - 6 (I think it's like Dan. You can do a lot, but will you?) Ken - 8 (I think he's a great character... I hope he goes far.) Marcus - 9 (Pre-show favorite, but will probably be taken out at the merge. Poor guy...) Matty - 7 (A good guy that you can do a lot with. I can see him going really far in your game.) Michelle - 7 (I can really see her being a good complex character. She was booted first in the show as well as, I think, in my fanfic... I hope she doesn't have the same fate in your story.) Paloma - 9 (I really liked her pre-show and I think that she can go far. I would love to see her in the final four.) Randy - 5 (I love him and hate him. What else can I say?) Sugar - 4 (I really didn't like her pre-show, and you can choose to do a lot with her character. I think an OTTN character would be a nice contrast honestly.) Susie - 5 ( I've found Susie a tad boring, but I hope she has more screen time than the show gave her. I really want to see your take on her...) I like the people on Kota better, but I think Fang will be more entertaining... so Fang. I can't wait (again)! Should be fun. :) |
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If you think at all like I do, either Jacquie or Charlie will most likely be winning. Pre-show (and proved during the game itself), they seemed to both have
the best understanding of the social aspect of the game, actively being nice to people and cooperative so that there isn't a target on their back. The only
problem I see is that they are both pretty generic, nice people without anything that makes them particularly insane, which means that they would have to be
pitted against some real demons and big personalities at the end. This would be good for hiding either of them as the winner (an F2 of those two would be
amazing from a gameplay perspective), and it would be amazingly entertaining to watch Corrine bitch them out at the end.
Oh, and PLEASE let Corrine make the jury. Her ultimate bitchiness would be epic at the final tribal (though the low blow on Sugar's dead father will certainly be hard to one-up). |
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I'm glad you separated some of the obvious/powerful pairs from the real show to avoid redundancy. Such as Crystal/Ken, Ace/Sugar, Kelly/Paloma, and of
course, Charlie/Marcus.
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OH Boy! can't wait, lovin the tribes.
I really hope you pull another Aaron and boot one of the interchangable Strong guys goes in the first 2 episodes. I'm leaning towards a Dan win even more. The Pre show seems to set up a good story for him I did it in China and I'm going to make predictions on the placements Early Boot: Kenny, Susie, Bob, Gillian Pre Jury: Kelly, GC, Michelle, Corrine Early Jury: Randy, Marcus, Mid Jury: Jacquie, Matty, Crystal Late Jury: Charlie, Ace Final 2(3): Dan, Sugar (Jacquie) Ace - 6 Bob - 8 Charlie - 3 Corinne - 5 Crystal - 6 Dan - 5 G.C. - 3 Gillian - 8 Jacquie - 4 Kelly - 5 Ken - 7 Marcus - 1 Matty - 1 Michelle - 7 Paloma - 10 Randy - 10 Sugar - 8 Susie - 6 Also I know I keep bugging you about these, but my 3rd season is going on if you want to check it out http://sfc.smackjeeves.co...c3-day-1-the-gender-wars/ |
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Some initial thoughts at reading the bios of the characters.
-Ace will probably be a villain who goes kind of far. I don't know why but he kind of gives me a late early boot (like episode 5ish) to right before the merge boot. -Corinne comes off as someone with a story that can't last for very long just from reading her bio -Bob doesn't leave me with the impression that he'll be a very big character in yoru fanfic -Crystal sounds like someone who goes very far in the game in something of a Sherea role in this season, though part of me wonders if you have Jeff talk about her like an end gamer because she's super visible the first few episodes, then goes home early and unexpectedly (kind of like Romber in allstars TAR). Ace - 6 Bob - 5 Charlie - 5 Corinne - 6 Crystal - 6 Dan - 5 G.C. - 5 Gillian - 5 Jacquie - 4 Kelly - 5 Ken - 5 Marcus - 4 Matty - 5 Michelle - 5 Paloma - 5 Randy - 6 Sugar - 5 Susie - 4 I've got a prediction on the winner's edit to I'll say right now. Looking back at the winners you've had so far I'd describe the last few's edits like this. -Tracy: Extremely charsmatic you could say with how she got others to change sides and help her win, for a lot of the game you could say she dominated, except early on, overall she'd be remembered as a dominator. -Dave: Despite all of his constant constant conflict and fighting with others, he simply was a dominator who controlled a lot of the people in his tribe well, despite them worrying about his relationship with Leslie and Denise. -Candice: Wasn't as much of a dominator, kind of middle of the roadish, knowing when to switch and when not to switch. -Stacy: Was no dominator at all, it was about how her opponent lost. So my point about the last four winners? I think we're about due for a story of why second place lost, and for someone who didn't dominate so much, but probably comes from behind after looking totally screwed for several episodes in a row in the merge. So just who has the right stuff to be an underdog winner, and who has the right stuff to be in control of the game and then self destruct at the last minute? Well here's two lists I've made Potential dominators -Ace -Charlie -Ken -Crystal -Marcus Potential Underdogs -Randy -GC -Jacquie -Sugar -Kelly -Bob As for the people not in the lists I'll go over them briefly. -Corinne: WAY too much like Stacy to be an underdog winner. Much as I'd kind of like the thought of a woman who causes lots of conflict dominating, I doubt we'll see it from her. Like I mentioned above I don't think she'll last long. -Dan & Matty: Both of them give me the feeling that they have the potential to self destruct in the end game, and because of that I doubt they could be an underdog winner. Yet both of them also seem to lack the ability to dominate for most of the game. -Gilligan: No way can she be a dominator. I also don't think she has what it takes to be an underdog winner. -Michelle: I don't think she has what it takes to be a dominator, as an underdog... she seems to be kind of... lacking shall we say, the ability to do it differently then Stacy. -Paloma: She doesn't sound very important to me based on Jeff's words. -Susie: On one had she'd be a little bit different from Stacy, but she still seems too similar to Stacy to me, and also gives me a feeling of not being as important for some reason. Now I'll get onto my dominators who could blow it at the end. -Crystal: My #1 choice for the dominator who blows it is Crystal, her bio just screams "I'm important", and sounds like she'll dominate at something. Her description from Jeff reminds me a lot of Dave, and leaves me wondering if she'll be like a Dave who actually does blow it, or an obvious F2 loser from early on who really does lose. -Ace: Being a villain who's willing to backstab would be a decent role for a realistic F2 loser who dominates but blows it. -Charlie: He's described like such a dominator by Jeff, that it makes me put him here. The only problem I have with him is he reminds me a bit too much of Earl, a likeable guy who loses in the end. -Ken: The mentions about manipulation and being a strategist by Jeff lead me to put him here. -Marcus: Maybe it's from the show, but more then anyone he reminds me of Earl, he seems too much like Earl in fact, but still since he's similar to Earl I'll put him in my list. If you asked me to rate the chances of each being the dominator I'd give Crystal the highest chances. Ken, Charlie, and Ace I'd give somewhat likely odds to, and Marcus the smallest odds simply because he's too similar to Earl. As for the underdog who unseats the dominator in the end, here's my reasons for each pick. -Randy: He's kind of a long shot to be the underdog in a way, but here's my logic for him. Randy is someone with the potential to create the suspense that they could be an underdog who might lose a jury vote simply because of his personality. He's such a lonely guy in real life that maybe he'll end up being alone in the merge, and everyone will ignore him for a while thinking they can always take him out later, or no one would want to save an obnoxious jerk like him and screw over their majority alliance. A Randy underdog would likely be taken far, possibly to the end, because they're viewed as a weak jury opponent. -GC: Even more so then Randy, Jeff talks about him as being a loner, which means he could be viewed as friendless and therefore not a threat at being able to turn the game around due to lack of social skills, and therefore kept around longer in a merge while in the minority despite being a strong guy. The way a GC underdog would win is either by going on an immunity run to the end, and/or by others deciding that a certain round, like the F5, is when they'll flip alliances, and GC surviving by immunity runs would be who they'd go to for an alliance, despite GC's lack of social connections. In order to win a jury vote he'd probably go for the 'respect me for winning all these immunities and being the last of my group here despite being the strongest'. -Jacquie: I just get a feeling from Jeff's description of her that she'll have some kind of an important strategic role in the game. And she sounds like she may have the skills for a comeback near the end. -Sugar: At first I thought she would be too similar to Stacy, but then reading Jeff's thoughts I realized she actually wasn't. Despite being emotional, she has the potential to use her overly emotional personality, and crying, to gain sympathy and possibly make others screw up their game from feeling bad for her. -Bob: Unfortunately a Bob win would be very similar to what we saw on the real season of Gabon, so I pray it's not him. -Kelly: Jeff sure talks about her as if she'll get herself in a good situation for making an underdog comeback from behind. Out of the underdog choices I'm much more divided on who it could be. Really I don't have too strong a feeling on any of them being it. The ones who I'd give better odds of it being however would be GC, Randy, and Sugar. |
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Wow, lots of amazing comments to respond to. I was just about to go to bed, so I'll respond to them all tomorrow morning, but one thing I wanted to say
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J Daviau: I'm glad you separated some of the obvious/powerful pairs from the real show to avoid redundancy. Such as Crystal/Ken, Ace/Sugar, Kelly/Paloma, and of course, Charlie/Marcus.Remember, I made these tribes long before the actual season aired. The reason why I came up with my own tribes in the first place was because I didn't know the actual tribal breakdown yet, so the fact that those pairs are on different tribes and the Final Four is all on Kota was just pure coincidence because I didn't know any of this at the time I created my tribes. |
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I love your tribal divisions! What's funny is that, with the exception of Matty, GC, and Paloma, all of the Survivors actually were on those
tribes at one point in the game or another, thanks to the multiple tribe swaps.
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I've never read these before, GF, but oddly enough, since I was so disappointed (really, I was totally bummed) at the outcome of last night's finale,
I'm looking for solace in this version to help me enjoy Gabon again. Cos it was such a good season for so long, I want to have a good impression of it
again! And I think you'll do an awesome job.
Also, I think I noticed a spoiler? Anyway, I'm really looking forward to seeing how you write for people like Kelly and Dan, like some of the others have said. ETA: Oh and... Ace - 10 Bob - 1 Charlie - 2 Corinne - 2 Crystal - 8 Dan - 7 G.C. - 8 Gillian - 5 Jacquie - 6 Kelly - 10 Ken - 4 Marcus - 3 Matty - 2 Michelle - 6 Paloma - 8 Randy - 1 Sugar - 5 Susie - 9
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I'm going to try and read on time and not have to catch up, but it looks great. Except for the fact that Ken isn't on the same tribe as Crystal, I
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Hi GF! Great start! I think the tribes are great, but I'm going with Fang because of Ace and Charlie.
Ace - 9 Bob - 7 Charlie - 9 Corinne - 6 Crystal - 2 Dan - 3 GC - 1 Gillian - 7 Jacquie - 5 Kelly - 5 Ken - 8 Marcus - 8 Matty - 5 Michelle - 6 Paloma - 7 Randy - 8 Sugar - 2 Susie - 1
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