Of course it was a good idea. It was the best move to make at the time. But as we all know on SurvivorSucks, if they're women, it was a bad play.
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Zhan Hu throws a challenge. Good idea?
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Posts: 2888 (10/18/07 10:49 PM) Patriots:Worst 11-5 team EVER |
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PeachessandCreeams |
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Posts: 7124 (10/18/07 10:59 PM) Registered user |
Very compelling argument, A Bartholomew.
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mycookies |
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Posts: 244 (10/18/07 11:00 PM) |
What got me was in the editing the 3 originals only seemed to try to get to know Aaron. And even with that Jamie clearly saw that Aaron was evasive in his
answers.
I am glad James stayed. I like him and totally understand his frustration with the girls throwing the challenge. I wish we knew for sure if he had tried to get to know the others or not. We won't know as we only see the edited show and not all that happened. |
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Posts: 1104 (10/18/07 11:09 PM) Registered user |
I hope it will backfire. I hate to see contestants throwing a challenge just like the previous seasons of Survivor.
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Posts: 304 (10/18/07 11:36 PM) |
when he wouldn't even committ to voting out Jean Robert at the merge it was pretty clear he was Fhei Long 4 Life he should have agreed to anything they
asked.
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Posts: 22 (10/18/07 11:42 PM) |
swim4life227 wrote: I know I know, but we'll just have to see how it plays out. I'm more pissed about the 12 year old giggle sorority/alliance than anything else.
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MJSLawrence |
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Posts: 362 (10/19/07 12:06 AM) Registered user |
How anyone could possibly think they hurt themselves by throwing it...it was a great move. If James goes next week than the other side may never know they
threw it, if that even matters. No hard feelings will be felt with the Fei Longs of the other tribe, as far as that goes. I'm hoping they do it
again...get James outta there and let's see what happens then. They'll definitely merge at 9 or 10 so it's a pretty safe bet. Guaranteed the
merge is coming...that'll never change and it'll help them with the numbers game...especially by taking the ring leader Aaron out. Although I
don't think it'll necessarily hurt Todd or Amanda's game. They seem adaptable enough to win this thing. This is their game to lose, in my eyes.
Should be interesting.
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Textell |
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Posts: 182 (10/19/07 12:11 AM) Registered User |
I think it was a decent game move, and probably one of they made one of the best arguments for throwing a challenge. I wanted to like Jaime and PG for going
through with it, I just can't stand how smug they were about it.
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tdugan333 |
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Posts: 24 (10/19/07 12:12 AM) |
It was just the way they did it that pisses me off. The giggle/middle school alliance gave no respect to Eric to at least let him know they were going to
throw it and to top it off they threw it badly with no finesse. Play the damn game...out wit the bastards and never let em see it coming or going for that
matter. It's going to bite them in the ass merge or no.
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Archibald C |
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Posts: 35 (10/19/07 12:13 AM) |
James and Aaron going is the best thing that could happen to this season because that means that we are going to get a good merge that doesn't just have
one tribe picking off another an one person winning all the immunity challenges. Also, they were not put in a hopeless position. Aaron could have easily
persuaded Erik to vote off PG, but Aaron was too concerned with getting James off that he wasted that opprotunity. I also don't think that the folks over
at Fei Long will be too sad to see him go right before the merge, because that assures that everyone else has a fair chance.
I like that for the first time in three seasons two women make a power play and everyone calls them cunts. It's so refreshing to see women on this show that don't just let the men walk all over them. I hope PG and Jamie backstab, lie, cheat, and steal all the way to the top because that's how you are supposed to play the game. I'll applaud them the entire way. |
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HaroldBalzaccio |
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Posts: 4865 (10/19/07 12:22 AM) Registered user |
CUBic Zirconiyum wrote: They survived this week. |
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leather bunky |
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Posts: 147 (10/19/07 12:28 AM) |
It wasn't really fair for Jeff to expose Jamie and PeiGee like that. Jeff pretty much called them out during the challenge and tribal council so Jamie
couldn't exactly keep it a secret. I was surprised that Aaron and James couldn't figure that out until Jeff got Jamie blatantly to admit it. I will
miss hot Aaron though.
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Sardonically Irreverent |
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Posts: 11857 (10/19/07 1:23 AM) Registered user |
I thought it was brilliant. However, I also thought Crystal Pepsi was a good idea so what the fuck do I know?
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zeneth18 |
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Posts: 1108 (10/19/07 2:04 AM) Registered user |
It was a brilliant move but the way they acted was just annoying.
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Mega64 |
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Posts: 7953 (10/19/07 2:26 AM) Registered User |
Vecepia, Jenna, Chris, Danni, Yul and Earl all politely disagree with the "minority numbers in merge = death" assumption.And the people on Pagong, Kucha, Samburu, Sook Jai, Mogo Mogo, La Mina, and New Ravu would say otherwise. Yeah, a Zhan Hu could still win, but wouldn't be easier for one to win if they had the numbers advantage? I don't know why you'd want to willingly go to the merge in the minority, as it really puts you at a disadvantage. Are you more likely to win over allies in a 5-5 split, or on the wrong end of a 7-3 split? And it's worse if you suck at immunity, which is the only reason why people like Terry got far while the rest of his tribe were the first three people gone. And when you think "immunity whores" in this cast, PG and Jamie aren't the first that come to mind. I don't see why the fuck "they can still win" is an argument. Fuck, James can still win despite being in a horrible situation. Are his chances of winning good right now? Hell fucking no. I just don't see why you'd willingly go to the merge in a minority alliance when you could at least hope to win over a straggler and potential ally on the other side in a 5-5 tossup. |
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leather bunky |
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Posts: 154 (10/19/07 2:36 AM) |
Pagong and Kucha went in 5-5. They just sucked at strategy.
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Mega64 |
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Posts: 7954 (10/19/07 2:57 AM) Registered User |
Kucha had decent strategy, they were just idiots and targeted the wrong person.
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Posts: 60 (10/19/07 3:22 AM) Registered User |
Didn't MB make this move to even up the sides? If thats the case he isn't going to take too kindly to PG and Jamie screwing him over. It was a
probably a good move but I hope it backfires. I hate quitters.
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Heliox |
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Posts: 165 (10/19/07 3:45 AM) |
I am loving this season. It has a lot of great gamers playing. I think that PG/Jamie's strategy is sound. And I think they showed us the tears from Sherea
and PG and Jamie consoling each other as a sign of how tight this tribe has become. Furthermore, Jamie also got to see how tense things were at FL and her
judgement that Sherea and Frosti will stay true to their alliance is based in part on knowledge of the other tribes dynamics she had gained.
Throwing the challenge at this time is a way better plan than winning challenges to keep Aaron and James. Jamie saw what they meant to the tribe. IF she had seen dissension against these two at FL they may have tried to persuade them to stay. As far as Jamie and PG's arrogance after TC or at the camp, it started after James was whining and harassing the ladies about their skills and rudely asking what was wrong with them. PG is right, it isn't about winning every battle, it is about winning the war. James is an automaton when it comes to competition, it's all he knows, he can't think abstractly to see the bigger picture. Kudos to the girls for giving this plan a try. It is probably to late for Zhan Hu to recover, but at least they are not taking the simplest path which would be to try and win challenges and avoid TC and hope that they can change up the game later and probably without one or both of their former alliance partners. I have to say again that there isnt anyone one this season that I don't find at least somewhat interesting and most are pretty savvy gameplayers... finally! ...edited to comment: I hate quitters.You are referring to PG and Jaime? ...How the hell are they quitters??? They strategically made a choice not to win this competition to try and take back control of the game which was essentially lost to them. They are players, James is the quitter if anything, not wanting this, not wanting that.. adapt big guy.
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Mateui |
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Posts: 1750 (10/19/07 4:09 AM) Registered user |
I think that Zhan Hu talked about throwing the challenge before the split. The editors did show Sherea & Frosti saying something like - 'you've now
got control of the two biggest players, do what you have to'. Secondly, at the start of the IC, I believe Peih Gee gave a signal to Frosti to let him know
that they were throwing it. It was subtle, but the camera did focus on it. Jaime & Peih Gee wouldn't have made this move if they weren't sure that
Sherea & Frosti would come back to them - no, they must have discussed this route beforehand and agreed to it should it happen.
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