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sunsawed	SPOILERS for SPECKERS!!!	Lead	[-]
Posts: 7351 (09/21/07 3:00 AM) MESS SPECtrometer Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	As per the "There's a New Sheriff in Town!!!" thread, the consensus in Spec about WHAT SPOILERS ARE OUT THERE. Devoid of the actual CONTENT of the Spoilers. So you can know what to AVOID in order to remain Spoiler-Free. I'll tell you WHAT the Spoilers ARE and how to AVOID THEM. There is a FINAL THREE SPOILER, posted by DanieuBleau, which also includes a FINAL NINE, presumably, a JURY SPOILER, endorsed by TrueDorkTimes. Info from this was casually mentioned in the MESS Hall "Episode One Play By Play" Thread and even in OT. (Well, for OT, just that there WAS an F3 spoiler.) So, "Don't GO. If you don't wanna know."
catfishbarb		#1	[-]
Posts: 355 (09/21/07 7:16 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Thanks so much for doing this. Every year I want to be spoiler free and come to sucks speculation and I know better so I try to read and stop when I see a spoiler coming but sometimes it's just impossible. I did a few years of spoilers and I just don't enjoy the show as much. I like edgic and Mess Hall. People trying to figure things out based on things other than spoilers.
sunsawed		#2	[-]
Posts: 7355 (09/22/07 3:22 AM) MESS SPECtrometer Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Good CHRIST! After trying to keep Source Spoilers out of the MESS PBP, a MESS MOD posted a WINNER Spec, based upon Source Spoilers. Lord help us all.
Pulau Tiga		#3	[-]
Posts: 2205 (09/22/07 10:24 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Sorry you have to witness the rampant leaking of spoilers in person, sunsawed. But thanks for giving us a heads-up as to what's floating around out there. I now know that I'll have to be very, very careful this season if there's already a F3 and F9 spoiler floating around.
fat little fingers		#4	[-]
Posts: 4869 (09/22/07 11:21 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Agreed, catfish. It's a shame to have to give up MESS. Thanks, sunsawed. A sad mess indeed.
Kirblar		#5	[-]
Posts: 4121 (09/23/07 12:21 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	fat little fingers wrote: Agreed, catfish. It's a shame to have to give up MESS. Thanks, sunsawed. A sad mess indeed. I think that nowadays people aren't willing to withold information like SurvivorNews used to. DanieuBleu had a source leak the whole thing pre-game. She could have released it slowly over the course of the season, but didn't.
SurvivorQT4EVER		#6	[-]
Posts: 2501 (09/23/07 5:31 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	so danbleau leaked everything? boot order and all? i know about the "supposed" final 9 spoiler on the whiteboard
Kirblar		#7	[-]
Posts: 4128 (09/23/07 5:49 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	SurvivorQT4EVER wrote: so danbleau leaked everything? boot order and all? i know about the "supposed" final 9 spoiler on the whiteboard Yeah. I miss Snewser.
sunsawed		#8	[-]
Posts: 7358 (09/25/07 1:54 AM) MESS SPECtrometer Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	My intuition is that most Spoilers withhold info all the time. They want the most @@WOOO-WOOO@@ which Sucktards love to eat up with a spoon. Sucktards post 200 pages of Speculation which the Spoiler just LAUGHS AT, knowing the real answer and loving everybody going off the deep end. At this point, I'm not even sure if CBS isn't behind the Spoilers! Since S6 was spoiled, spoilers haven't effected the ratings at all. Spoiled, unspoiled, ridiculously spoiled; it hasn't made a difference. But the Spoilers do keep the hard-core boardtards glued to their computers. That's one thing. Just like Edgic. I'm sure MB's peeps can read Edgic and NOT EDIT THE SHOW THAT WAY, if they show chose. I'm wondering why MB DOESN'T throw a curveball? I guess he supposes the more Edgicky he edits the show, the greater the Cult of Edgic will grow. Dole out Spoilers. Make the Edgickers seem like like geniuses. Give Rupert a million after ASS for no reason. Seems a bit of a PATTERN. Keep the devotees happy, I suppose.
queenbee15		#9	[-]
Posts: 128 (09/25/07 5:45 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't think the producers would care enough to come here and change their editing to fool hardcore fans
fat little fingers		#10	[-]
Posts: 4880 (09/25/07 10:19 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm sure MB's peeps can read Edgic and NOT EDIT THE SHOW THAT WAY, if they show chose. Edgic is a tiny group in the vastness of tvland. CBS and SEG sneer at us. Now, staff leaks to Sucks, that they hate!
sunsawed		#11	[-]
Posts: 7365 (09/27/07 2:05 AM) MESS SPECtrometer Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't think the producers would care enough to come here and change their editing to fool hardcore fans. Quite the OPPOSITE. My hypothesis is that CBS would actually CATER to hardcore fans, who think they have "outsmarted" CBS to feed them WHAT THEY WANT in order to make them MORE hard core. That's a reason to make the editing MORE Edgicky and to release (under their control) MORE spoilers! It's OBVIOUS that Spoilers don't effect the general viewers. Then, how do you attract MORE viewers? You use the spoiling mechanisms out there so that there are VAGUE CLUES that may or may not be wrong or right and get people to LATCH on to them to see if Spoilers actually were RIGHT, if Edgic actually WORKS. CBS WANTS you to PAY CLOSE ATTENTION to every episode. To SCRUTINIZE every scene. If you do THAT, maybe you'll pay EQUAL ATTENTION to every COMMERCIAL. You're watching EVERY EPISODE, aren't you? Well, then, MISSION ACCOMPLISHED!!!
Pulau Tiga		#12	[-]
Posts: 2246 (09/27/07 1:57 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	sunsawed wrote: Quite the OPPOSITE. My hypothesis is that CBS would actually CATER to hardcore fans, who think they have "outsmarted" CBS to feed them WHAT THEY WANT in order to make them MORE hard core. That's a reason to make the editing MORE Edgicky and to release (under their control) MORE spoilers! I'd AGREE about spoilers BEING released in ORDER to appease the HARCORE fan base, but I THINK Edgic is more OF A result of editing LEANING towards the casual VIEWERSHIP, who want a NICE, movie-like storyline, WHERE they can swallow the WINNER as deserving and know THEY were aware of his/her PRESENCE throughout the SEASON.
fat little fingers		#13	[-]
Posts: 4895 (09/27/07 11:33 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	CBS WANTS you to PAY CLOSE ATTENTION to every episode. To SCRUTINIZE every scene. This I agree is absolutely true. Watching an episode without the audio is a revelation. These guys do fantastic visual storytelling.
sunsawed		#14	[-]
Posts: 7372 (09/28/07 2:30 AM) MESS SPECtrometer Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The Visual Storytelling really ramped up with S2 (which I think had the BEST editing) and turned me from a casual viewer into an ADDICT.
Roadfinder		#15	[-]
Posts: 3777 (09/28/07 2:59 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yes, sunsawed, Survivor: China has been completely spoiled, down to a Boot Order and the Final Three. I don't mind "spoilers" per se, because a spoiler is not a spoiler until after the fact. And this wonderful show, with the editing, the visuals, the music, the characters, the drama, the challenges, far surpasses any "whodunnit" story. I do visit the Spoiler forum still, where I was born, long before the days of insider information. It was fun then when we played a detective game, but now not so much. I much prefer how we do it here in Speculation or in MESS Hall, trying to unravel the clues. But so be it. I'm glad you're the new sheriff in town and will keep a new watch here. Loved the first two episodes! Survivor: China has been awesome so far. Great cast, great show. Last Edited By: Roadfinder 09/28/07 3:47 AM. Edited 1 times.
speedyforme		#16	[-]
Posts: 5256 (10/04/07 8:39 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	if you must know, the spoiling community was wrong tonight with the boot, but it may not be far off long term yet
JoeJoeJunior		#17	[-]
Posts: 1554 (10/05/07 1:19 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Hey thanks for setting up this thread! I have a quick question about that Final 3 spoiler that I think it's okay to ask here (DON'T WORRY - I DO NOT KNOW THE NAMES OF THE PEOPLE IN THE F3 NOR DO I WISH TO KNOW): Does that spoiler name 3 people who face the jury? Or is it just the last 3 contestants in the game? I thought I had heard that this season would be going back to the original final 2 formula. Sorry if this is too "spoilery" to ask here!
speedyforme		#18	[-]
Posts: 5275 (10/05/07 1:24 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	There are articles out there that I think has Jeff telling us it's a F3 to face the jury, I HATE IT, but I think that's what he said in some articles. And the spoiler DOES give all 3 names.
Pulau Tiga		#19	[-]
Posts: 2338 (10/05/07 2:40 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	speedyforme wrote: if you must know, the spoiling community was wrong tonight with the boot, but it may not be far off long term yet Ooh, that's intriguing. Here's hoping the spoilers are blown apart this season and we go into an end game where nobody actually knows who wins.
speedyforme		#20	[-]
Posts: 5276 (10/05/07 2:42 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If I had it my way, it wouldbe F2 again, eff this F3 shitfest I don't care if a goat gets dragged, at least you know they will get burned which is more entertaining to me (Lill, Katie, Twila etc.)

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