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I liked Chris in the beginning of Vanuatu, and he's still probably my favorite guy that season, for lack of better options, but I'll always be unhappy that he won, for 3 reasons:

1. He needed Twila's help to figure out that he should talk to Eliza about forming a counter-alliance.

2. His poor boot decisions let to his original tribe be decimated.

3. I was digusted by the way he treated Eliza and Julie at the end of the game.

BTW, I'm pretty much positive that he would have won against Scout. I have no idea why he thinks otherwise.

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Um, no. Brady was booted immediately before the switch. Meaning, it had absolutely no effect whatsoever on Lopevi losing any further challenges from that point forward.

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But unless Chris knew there was going to be a switch, it was still stupid.

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Infact Chris's tribe won two of three immunity challenges after the switch.

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Challenges that they, incidentally, would have been better off throwing, from a strategic point of view.

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Plus, Rory was an absolute 100% guarantee to go back to the men come merge time, which is exactly what he did. There was no such guarantee with Brady. Yes, Rory was bugging the hell out of anyone. But booting him over Brady would be the idiotic decision, not what actually happened.

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I actually have somewhat of the opposite take on this. One of the reasons why I think they should have booted Rory over Brady, was that Brady was much more trustworthy. I think Brady would definitely stuck with the guys after the merge, presuming that they made it clear to him that they were including him in their alliance. But I think Rory would only stick with the guys if he thought it benefitted him.

ETA: And they could have also voted out John K at this point, which would have been the best thing to do if they really didn't trust him.

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Already discussed by me. To stay consistent, you gotta admit that at the time of the decision, it was not a dumb move. In hindsight, certainly as it gave the women the advantage. But the fact is if you don't penalize Candace's mutiny because it was not a dumb decision at the time, but do penalize Chris, that is completely hypocritical.

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That doesn't make the slightest bit of sense. How the hell was it not a dumb move at the time?

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And I say that 1) the booting of Rory over Brady would have made no difference whatsoever because original Lopevi never again had an immunity challenge after that point and 2) regardless of whether John K or Julie was voted out, the women likely would have had the 6-4 advantage at the merge because John K would have flipped.

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There's no real evidence to suggest that John K would have flipped, and even if he would have, it still makes no sense for them to see him as a bigger risk for flipping than Julie and Twila.

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Chris set in motion the entire powershift by talking to Leann and Ami after Chad's boot, which got them to reveal to Scout the pecking order.

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I don't know what this is refering to.

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He controlled all the boots except for 3 tribal councils.

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This is largely true.

ETA: Although it should be pointed out that many of the other winners were in control of ALL of the tribal councils, which is somewhat more impressive.

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He had a great jury performance against a jury with 5 women.

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I think he came off as very fake and insincere. He was "up to his ears in bullshit" as Scout said. Perhaps he was more effective than Twila, but I think pretty much everybody had their mind made up at that point anyway, aside from possibly Julie.

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And, he overcame the largest deficit in Survivor history, 6-1.

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True, but it was because of his own mistakes that he was in that situation in the first place. A great player wouldn't have gotten himself into that situation to begin with---and he wouldn't have needed for someone else to save him.