I don't think he would have had those votes even before the veto, because of the Jessie vote, but we won't ever know. Certainly if they blame the veto wheel, no one will have a hard time believing it.

The DR probably did offer input (maybe one of the reasons he's been more resistent of them lately), but I think a lot of that was him. There's a goofy kid under all the repression and he saw this as a chance to just have fun. He didn't realize until too late how many other people weren't on the same wavelength.

If he makes F2, then hopefully he will at least have more to say than MBP or Erika. I think they both could have at least had a few more votes if they'd had any idea what to say. Todd on Survivor, or even Courtney, are good examples.

Yeah, I'm looking forward to their smug reactions when they find out he was AP. I think one of them will start jumping up and down or pointing, like they're on Price is Right. Then maybe they can hire Stacey Stillman to sue Grodner.