And Jaison's quote shows that while he suggested Erik to go he didnt suggest the same plan that Natalie carried out, so the idea of him getting more credit than natalie is ridiculous
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Um so since Foa Foa said they should make social connections with the tribe then suddenly Natalie carrying out the plan was just her following their orders?
right O_O
And Jaison's quote shows that while he suggested Erik to go he didnt suggest the same plan that Natalie carried out, so the idea of him getting more credit than natalie is ridiculous |
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And Jaison's quote shows that while he suggested Erik to go he didnt suggest the same plan that Natalie carried out, so the idea of him getting more credit than natalie is ridiculousNo, what's ridiculous is assuming that you have any clue what was discussed among Jaison, Natalie and Mick between the time that Jaison first said "let's go after Eric" and the time that Natalie was laying down with Laura. Clearly she implemented the plan. But we have no way of knowing whether it was her plan or someone else's plan or a group decision to approach Laura. The only thing we really know is that it was not Russell's idea. |
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SPunKeeMonKee |
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survivorisdabest wrote:It just so happened that her strategy of being a social gamer lined up with what her tribe needed her to do. I mean, duh. I fail to see how that is somehow "masterminding" anything. And Jaison's quote shows that while he suggested Erik to go he didnt suggest the same plan that Natalie carried out, so the idea of him getting more credit than natalie is ridiculousHe isn't getting more credit, I just think it's not right that his contributions are being swept under the rug. |
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Sshaaz |
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Consider what happens if Jaison doesn't say anything about Erik. Where would we be? Russell's idol would sill be gone, and Jaison would be, too. I
wouldn't call Jaison a 'mastermind' per se, but his idea saved his ass, little did he know... I'd say Natalie did the grunt work, being the
more social of the 4 FF. Not to call Jaison the "Godfather" by any means, but Brando sits behind a desk and doesnt exactly get his hands dirty.
Jaison will find himself in the orchard soon enough.
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Katy Carney |
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lol at people acting like Jaison invented some revolutionary form of gameplay by hating Erik <3
Jaison: "Erik is a fucking DOUCHE." Natalie: *goes and rallies an unprecedented ten votes for Erik to leave* Erik: WTFG JAISON!!!!!!1 GENIUS |
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Sshaaz |
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how much rallying was needed from Foa Foa really?
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Torchflame |
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spyzsrvvrcharmd wrote: He is just there to look pretty. lol |
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survivorisdabest wrote:He planted the seed. Just b/c he didn't actively and directly say, "Natalie, you must insinuate yourself into the Laura Camp and win her trust, then make her vote out Erik!!!" should in no way mean he doesn't get some credit. |
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MonkeeSpanker |
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It was funny when Erik called him out at TC for being completely worthless. He hasn't lived up to his potential, he will probably get a job at Payless
shoes like the other idiot...
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WonderBread |
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STOP THE BIAS, Jaison was the mastermind this episode. I don't know why people hate on him, ok yeah he complains sometimes but if that's how he feels that's how he feels. At least he has a story unlike Brett and Mick. |
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SuperJude wrote:I'm hoping there isn't any more of Jaison complaining. I'm also hoping he keeps getting offended because he certainly seems to get things moving when he does--- I did worry that he would end up being another Osten when he gave up on that challenge last week. He's not perfect, but he did well for himself this week. |
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survivorisdabest |
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Jaison didn't mastermind anything, if Natalie hadn't done anything then Jaison piling 4 votes onto Erik to purposely piss him off would not only
achieve nothing but also ruin their chances of working with Erik and the Galus later on.
Natalie >>>>>>>>>>>>>>>x1000>>>>Jaison in contribution Jaison was just venting PMS and personal feelings whereas Natalie vented OWNAGE all over the camp and should get credit for the move (along with laura who went and rallied the galus). and LOL @ Jaison even having fans to defend him anyway O_O |
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survivorjordancontestant |
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wtf? Jaison a mastermind!? that worthless piece of shit who takes things too personally and was pretty much ready to quit? It was Natalie who carried out the
plan, hell, it could have been anyone that they voted off all he did was give a name, Natalie took it and ran with it. You should all just stop sucking his
limp pretentious ivy league cock and wake up to the fact that he's a whiny worthless bitch.
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WonderBread |
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Let me count the ways
1) Natalie is overrated because she has blue eyes and blond hair 2) Ashly>3>3>3 Natalie 3) Natalie is the Sydney Tocantins 2.0 That makes merge 4) It was Jaison's idea 5) Natalie will get the Becky Cassandra treatment at the final tribal (I cant wait) 6) Jaison is awesome 7) anyone against Jaison is Jealous 8) I win you lose
BEN ERICK Jiason Ownage to the fullest
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SPunKeeMonKee |
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Jaison is not worthless because he played a huge role in both of Foa Foa's only challenge victories:
- his height helped them get immunity in that stacking challenge - he completely smoked John in that swimming leg of the first IC, which gave FF the lead He hasn't quit, had no intention of doing so and wasn't the only one complaining about the elements. If anything, he was worth more to his tribe than their useless INV leader (who has hardcore fans, for some odd reason). I'll keep defending Jaison, I don't give a fuck. survivorisdabest wrote:Uhh, no. Jaison didn't say "omg guys, I hate Erik so much that I don't care if he goes!! Let's give him 4 votes and end it there! That'll show him!" Are you kidding me? NOBODY is saying Jaison was the mastermind but it's ridiculous how none of you people want to give him credit for anything. The guy breathes and there's a barrage of hate posts against him. It makes no sense.. all the while Natalie does what's expected of her and bonds with women her age with similar backgrounds and she's suddenly the best social player in Survivor history. Give me a fucking break. |
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SuperJude wrote:Clever. Yeah, I noticed that too. |
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WonderBread |
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SPunKeeMonKee wrote:^^^THIS>3.3> |
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Die Apokalyptischen Reiter |
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Katy Carney wrote: X |
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MonkeeSpanker |
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Wow. He played a role in Faila Faila's only 2 wins, he Played a bigger part helping them lose the rest. He is a whiney little 8itch who is offened easily,
how long before we see him complain again? I think he would have trouble masterminding a wet dream.
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River50 |
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After watching the episode clips that blistering posted, it seems that Jaison is now ready to play--- and, he was apparently thinking strategically even before
Erik approached him. I personally think he instinctively knew Erik was lying to them with the story that they'd be safe if they voted for Monica without
telling Russel. He sniffed out a rotten deal. Had he just gone with the ultimatum Erik presented, the idol would have been flushed out, and Jaison would have
been sent packing. Double whammy.
So he came up with Erik as the new target and convinced the rest of the tribe that it had to be him. |
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