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OutwitOutplay		#1001	[-]
Posts: 43 (11/06/09 9:25 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	^ I think it only SEEMS as though Parvati has a large following here because there's like five or six people who basically make every post sound like this: "Parvati!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! <3 <3 <3" I won't name names. But the rest of us tend to agree that Sandra is a well-rounded player, and appreciate her game play. There's debate on how good she really is, but I think most everyone on Sucks at least appreciates her. And how can you not, to be honest? So I'd argue Sandra has a bigger support base.
tullfan2		#1002	[-]
Posts: 3967 (11/06/09 9:28 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Fan of Survivor wrote: Didn't these players watch Rob M on All-Stars? Don't they realize that he can't be trusted? It's unbelievable how he lasts as long as he did on Heroes vs Villains. He deserves a lot of respect for that, even though I hate him. It's not that impressive actually. Rob M. is a snake but he is physically strong in the challenges unlike other snakes like Fairplay and Rob C so he is kept for that reason. He is still 3rd out of the villains tribe. He is booted out of the tribe once they have a 3 person advantage and it is not so critical for them to win Immunity any more.
SurferZ		#1003	[-]
Posts: 9 (11/06/09 9:51 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yeah the tribes probably even up because the villains get rid of their 2 strongest challenge competitors Tyson and Boston Rob.
Chinchilla23		#1004	[-]
Posts: 24 (11/06/09 12:09 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Still can't believe the Survivor producers and Probst couldn't swallow their damn pride and invite JFP back for season 20. He is THE greatest villian of all time and seeing him on a tribe with Sandra again would have been epic. Best player in PI and I honestly think he goes very far in Micronesia if he doesn't ask out. Just think how that game would have changed if Fairplay stays. Parvati is out first, followed by Cirie and Amanda, then the tribal swap. Who knows how the game would have played out. I can definitely see a final three of JFP/Penner/Eliza which is as good as it gets. All hypothetical and meaningless of course, but Fairplay deserves a second shot at this game in season 20. Probst and Survivor producers hate!!!
Ahora		#1005	[-]
Posts: 613 (11/06/09 12:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Chinchilla23 wrote: All hypothetical and meaningless of course, but Fairplay deserves a second shot at this game in season 20. Probst and Survivor producers hate!!! Second? It would have been his third shot. But I do see your point, Fairplay is probably one of the most notorious survivor villians. But he shot himself in the foot in micro when he quit. If he hadn't I'm sure they would have considered him more for this season.
Koan		#1006	[-]
Posts: 455 (11/06/09 12:37 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	This is taken from Jeff's blog this week: Like I did last week, I'll use one of my honorary nieces as an example of what I mean. Mackenzie, my niece, is really likable too. She's so likable that I'm sure lots of boys would love to ask her to a school dance or an afterschool party because she's so… nice… (just like Brett)… and also because she's cute (okay, fine, just like Brett). But what makes Macky really fun to be around is an extra layer of… sass. Yes, she's nice but she's lippy too and she's not afraid to call someone out for something and that adds a whole new level of respect to a person. It seemed really out of place for Jeff to talk about nonexistent Brett, but I wonder if he had Sandra in mind when he wrote this comment. PI is one of his favorite seasons, and he's said that S20 is one of his favorites.
speedyforme		#1007	[-]
Posts: 8207 (11/06/09 12:40 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Koan wrote: This is taken from Jeff's blog this week: Like I did last week, I'll use one of my honorary nieces as an example of what I mean. Mackenzie, my niece, is really likable too. She's so likable that I'm sure lots of boys would love to ask her to a school dance or an afterschool party because she's so… nice… (just like Brett)… and also because she's cute (okay, fine, just like Brett). But what makes Macky really fun to be around is an extra layer of… sass. Yes, she's nice but she's lippy too and she's not afraid to call someone out for something and that adds a whole new level of respect to a person. It seemed really out of place for Jeff to talk about nonexistent Brett, but I wonder if he had Sandra in mind when he wrote this comment. PI is one of his favorite seasons, and he's said that S20 is one of his favorites. I want Sandra to GET LOUD on Jeff too. LOL.
Chinchilla23		#1008	[-]
Posts: 26 (11/06/09 12:55 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I meant what I said about season 20 being Fairplay's second shot. Just implying that season 16 should not count against him because of how early he left and the reason he left. Jeff only had them vote because he was pissed at Fairplay. Osten did the same thing in PI and Jeff just sent him home.
val.kellyclarksonex...		#1009	[-]
Posts: 205 (11/06/09 2:05 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Chinchilla23 wrote: I meant what I said about season 20 being Fairplay's second shot. Just implying that season 16 should not count against him because of how early he left and the reason he left. Jeff only had them vote because he was pissed at Fairplay. Osten did the same thing in PI and Jeff just sent him home. Nah. I doubt it would be the same coz he already showed his true colors
bambatty		#1010	[-]
Posts: 10 (11/06/09 2:26 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	fairlplay is overrated in my opinion....... what makes him the greatest cause he lied about his grandma. Lots of people lie their way threw survivor. Boston rob did a pretty good job of being a villian in ASS. richard hatch was a villian before people knew how to be one. i feel when you quit the game you don't belong back on it
roxbury123		#1011	[-]
Posts: 598 (11/06/09 2:45 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I kind of wish Amber didn't just have a baby. I think for sure she would have been on this (with Rob), but Amber as a "Hero" and Rob as a "Villain" and i think that would have been interesting to watch. I dont think they both would have lasted long, but still something i would have found interesting to watch. I would take Amber over Amanda any day of the week to be honest.
Oowatanite		#1012	[-]
Posts: 9249 (11/06/09 2:51 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	OutwitOutplay wrote: But the rest of us tend to agree that Sandra is a well-rounded player, and appreciate her game play. There's debate on how good she really is, but I think most everyone on Sucks at least appreciates her. And how can you not, to be honest? Sandra is NOT a well-rounded player. Sandra was PATHETIC in challenges. Sandra's gameplay was WEAK to non-existent. Sandra only won because Lill SUCKED. And SOME sucksters only like her because she is a loudmouthed bitch.
Will		#1013	[-]
Posts: 35707 (11/06/09 3:57 PM) Not a Registered User anymore Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Lexxan wrote: Yes, but doesn't Parvati have a HUGE fanbase over here? Bigger than Sandra's? >_> <_< Doesn't she? There's no way to measure properly. And even if we did, we have no idea how SU views Sucks in regards to who he thinks Sucks likes more so this is all hopeless speculation until he spills who won.
Chinchilla23		#1014	[-]
Posts: 27 (11/06/09 4:06 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	agree that Sandra is not a well rounded player. She could barely swim in Pearl Islands, but she was a good strategist. She decided to tell Rupert about Trish's plan rather than vote him out, knowing she could trust Rupert. She allowed Christa to take the blame for her throwing away the fish. She was willing to take out anyone as long as it wasn't her, yet somehow remained likeable as opposed to Fairplay. She knew Jon was lying about his grandma and was willing to knock out Thunder D. She was able to convince Lill and Darrah to vote out Burton which changed the game. She facilitated the ousting of Tijuana by listening to Jon and Burton's conversation and putting doubt in tijuana's mind, making her paranoid enough to try and get rid of burton, which led Fairplay back to making a deal with Sandra and Christa. She swore on her two kids to screw Jon and burton and she did it. She was sassy as hell, funny and if JFP couldn't win it had to be Sandra. Lill and Burton would have lost to anyone at the final tribal because they were outcasts.
WRLNGDRVSH		#1015	[-]
Posts: 8 (11/06/09 4:21 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So is the duping of JT as bad as Eric in Micronesia?
OutwitOutplay		#1016	[-]
Posts: 44 (11/06/09 4:37 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Oowatanite wrote: OutwitOutplay wrote: But the rest of us tend to agree that Sandra is a well-rounded player, and appreciate her game play. There's debate on how good she really is, but I think most everyone on Sucks at least appreciates her. And how can you not, to be honest? Sandra is NOT a well-rounded player. Sandra was PATHETIC in challenges. Sandra's gameplay was WEAK to non-existent. Sandra only won because Lill SUCKED. And SOME sucksters only like her because she is a loudmouthed bitch. Yeah? Well, if she wins Survivor twice, here's to guessing she knows what she's doing. I've had my own debates about how good Sandra is, but you know what I've decided? Her middle of the road, "so long as it's not me" play clearly works. And assuming these spoilers are true, she will have at the very least won once, and been a runner-up once (at best, won twice). No other Survivor will have that record. It'll also show people that her strategy is sound. You do not have to win challenges to win the game. You don't have to be involved in every decision to win the game. You don't even have to outwit everyone to win the game. You just have to OUTLAST everyone else. And if the way to do that is by making sure the vote is never for you except when it counts, then I give her major kudos. Style points mean nothing. Wins mean everything.
Will		#1017	[-]
Posts: 35709 (11/06/09 4:40 PM) Not a Registered User anymore Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Amanda's close with two FTC failures.
AmightyRo		#1018	[-]
Posts: 1255 (11/06/09 5:09 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Oowatanite wrote: OutwitOutplay wrote: But the rest of us tend to agree that Sandra is a well-rounded player, and appreciate her game play. There's debate on how good she really is, but I think most everyone on Sucks at least appreciates her. And how can you not, to be honest? Sandra is NOT a well-rounded player. Sandra was PATHETIC in challenges. Sandra's gameplay was WEAK to non-existent. Sandra only won because Lill SUCKED. And SOME sucksters only like her because she is a loudmouthed bitch. I actually agree with you : ). My memory of PI isn't that great, but I do recall times when Sandra's gameplay consisted of "As long as it ain't me"..isn't that how Tijuana got the boot?
Ahora		#1019	[-]
Posts: 615 (11/06/09 5:11 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Tijuana threatened Sandra & Christa and told them Christa would be leaving if she didn't give her the flint or something. So Tijuana fucked up.
Chinchilla23		#1020	[-]
Posts: 28 (11/06/09 6:18 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	as long as you can make it to the merge it's obviously much better to be weak at challenges because you're not a target. Sandra won the game because of this (she was viewed as weaker than both Lill and Darrah) and therefore I do not consider her a great winner by any means. However, you play the hand you're dealt and if she makes it back to final tribal again the lady deserves major credit. Greatest player of all time? No, but perhaps the most entertaining and that's good enough for me. And I must say although I'm not physically attracted to her I want to fuck the shit out of Sandra's personality.

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