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pushingjate |
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In the preview Damon said "Be careful who you invite in next time" so I'm thinking there's no way to undo it unless the psychic can make shit
happen.
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meggie28 |
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Tonight's episode was awesome. It's like now that the secret's out, Damon's free to be an even bigger asshole. And the flashbacks were some of
the most delightfully bad since the days of Angel and his muttonchops.
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Prime Minister |
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meggie28 wrote: YES, YES IT WAS! Vicky vamped, will turn her into the hottest female vamp ever.... and cure that annoying self esteem prob.
I'm glad this show understands that a young hot cast requires some dancing around in your undies. |
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What's Really Going on With All These Vampires?By Stephen Marche ![]() Forget everything you've read about vampires so far. The current bloodsucking trend, achieving maximum ferocity in November with the release of the sequel to Twilight, isn't about outsiders or immigrants or religion or even AIDS, as critics and bloggers have argued ad nauseam these past few months. There's a much better, simpler, more obvious explanation: Vampires have overwhelmed pop culture because young straight women want to have sex with gay men. Not all young straight women, of course, but many, if not most, of them. Neil Gaiman, sci-fi novelist and geek grandmaster, found out just how many during the shitstorm of pique that covered him from head to toe this past summer after he suggested in an interview that the vampire craze had run its course and should disappear for another twenty to twenty-five years. (Twilight fans took to Twitter in protest.) A foolish hope. The craving for vampire fiction is not a matter of taste but of urges; one does not read or watch it so much as inject it through the eyes, and like any epidemic, it's symptomatic of something much larger: a quiet but profound sexual revolution and a new acceptance of freakiness in mainstream American life. Vampires have always stalked the cultural landscape at moments of carnal crisis. The seminal short story "The Vampyre," written in 1819 by John Polidori, was based on his fascination with Lord Byron, the icon of Romantic sexual liberation and danger. The frisson of deviance was there right from the start: Nobody really knows what happened between Byron and Polidori, but both of their memoirs were destroyed for the sake of propriety. (Byron, a few whispered, had even slept with his sister.) Bram Stoker's masterpiece, Dracula, appeared right in the middle of what historians call the Great Binge, a period in the late nineteenth and early twentieth centuries when cocaine and heroin use ran rampant, and the poster for the novel's first-ever movie adaptation promised "the strangest passion the world has ever known!" More recently, a small boom in vampire movies (The Hunger, The Lost Boys) coincided exactly with the rise of AIDS, their vampires intelligent and glamorous and doomed. All these earlier iterations of the theme are not at all like vampire fiction today. Our vampires are normal. They're not Goth, they're not scary, they're not even that weird. This fall's big vampire show is on the CW, the Gossip Girl network, and its producer also brought the world Dawson's Creek. In the best-selling Undead series of MaryJanice Davidson, the Queen of the Vampires is a suburbanite named Betsy Taylor. Edward, the romantic hero of the Twilight series, is a sweet, screwed-up high school kid, and at the beginning of his relationship with Bella, she is attracted to him because he is strange, beautiful, and seemingly repulsed by her. This exact scenario happened several times in my high school between straight girls and gay guys who either hadn't figured out they were gay or were still in the closet. Twilight's fantasy is that the gorgeous gay guy can be your boyfriend, and for the slightly awkward teenage girls who consume the books and movies, that's the clincher. Vampire fiction for young women is the equivalent of lesbian porn for men: Both create an atmosphere of sexual abandon that is nonthreatening. That's what everybody wants, isn't it? Sex that's dangerous and safe at the same time, risky but comfortable, gooey and violent but also traditional and loving. In the bedroom, we want to have one foot in the twenty-first century and another in the nineteenth. ![]() True Blood also casts its shadow on the romance between a young woman and a vampire, but unlike Twilight, which is all subtext and love-that-dare-not-speak-its-name, HBO's cult series connects vampirism to homosexuality explicitly. In the opening credits - best opening credits ever? - a passing road sign reads GOD HATES FANGS. The vampires call the humans "breathers" instead of "breeders," and the series opens with a talk-show interview about vampires "mainstreaming," or "coming out of the coffin." True Blood contrasts its vampires' desires for normalcy with humans who are extreme drug users, shape-shifters, and orgiastic maenads, and it's a perfect encapsulation of the American bedroom at this moment: Everyone is a freak, even the people who claim to rail against freakiness. The first question that comes to mind when you see a family-values orator today is, "I wonder if he's into meth-fueled orgies with male hookers?" And the segment of the religious Right that is not hypocritical has more or less joined the party: An evangelical preacher whose mission in life is to make Christians freakier is telling his flock to try anal play. For most Americans, there is no longer any such thing as a shameful sexual act between consenting adults. Having a bland sex life? Now, that's shameful. No one would dare admit to that. And so vampires have appeared to help America process its newfound acceptance of what so many once thought strange or abnormal. Adam and Steve who live on your corner with their adorable little son and run a bakery? The transgendered man who gave birth to a healthy baby? The teenage girl who wishes that all boys could be vampires? All part of the luscious and terrifying magic of today's sexual revolution. The political consequences are sweeping - Iowa's Supreme Court ruling on gay marriage is further proof of an old wise man's dictum that the United States invariably does the right thing, after first exhausting all the other alternatives - and the cultural impact is just beginning to be felt. Stephenie Meyer's fourth book in her vampire series, Breaking Dawn, will - one rumor has it - be broken into as many as three different films, which means that husbands, fathers, and boyfriends could find themselves dragged to Twilight movies over the next decade. Neil Gaiman should take some comfort, though: Vampires will eventually go away. They always do. But only when they've sucked our fear and our longing dry. Read more: http://www.esquire.com/features/thousand-words-on-culture/vampires-gay-men-1109#ixzz0U70ZLdKi From Esquire.com ______________________________________________________________________________ Esquire has an interesting theory about the success of Twilight, HBO's True Blood, and The CW's Vampire Diaries: "Vampires have overwhelmed pop culture because young straight women want to have sex with gay men," Stephen Marche writes. "Not all young straight women, of course, but many, if not most, of them." Among his support statements, the following analysis of Twilight's Edward: "[He's]�a sweet, screwed-up high school kid, and at the beginning of his relationship with Bella, she is attracted to him because he is strange, beautiful, and seemingly repulsed by her. This exact scenario happened several times in my high school between straight girls and gay guys who either hadn't figured out they were gay or were still in the closet." Had Marche wanted to, he also could've pointed out that on True Blood, telepathic Sookie can only be intimate with a man (Vampire Bill) whose lustful thoughts she cannot hear, and on Vampire Diaries, Elena knows that Stefan has been hiding who he truly is, that he'd sworn off women for quite a while, and that he cooks and journals. (Marche could also have mentioned that True Blood's Eric gets his hair highlighted and enjoys solo candlelight baths, for that matter.) When I first read the essay, I wanted to flat-out shoot it down. But then I remembered that I'm someone who's said "I'd like a man who's just to the left of gay" and "I know I'm really into a guy when I fantasize about watching Golden Girls with him." (It's a turn on to watch him appreciate vocal, funny women and their friends.) So maybe I can't call total bulls-. What do you think? Are, as Marche suggests, young straight women attracted to vampires because they're dangerous - see: their ability to kill through draining or incredible sex - yet safe? They are, after all, at first unattainable and then ultimately fictional; we can mute their desires (Bill) or hinder their powers of seduction with an herb (Vampire Diaries' Damon) or code of conduct (Eric). Does the fact that we constrain them - and have a preference for sensitive souls (Edward, Stefan, Bill) or bad boys with a heart that only one woman can�touch�(Damon and Eric) - turn them metaphorically gay? From Entertainment Weekly.com |
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OMG! I literally love this show, its so "Buffyish"
I was sad that Damon killed his uncle, it came out of nowhere but the other two things that literally had me either jumping off my seat or gasping or BOTH was when Damon SNAPPED Vicki's neck, I really thought she was a goner Can't wait for the next eppy! |
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Scoop: 'Vampire Diaries,' 'Melrose Place' picked up!
The back-nine order for Diaries was a no-brainer. The Kevin Williamson-produced thriller scored The CW's best premiere ratings ever and has been a consistent demo dynamo on Thursday night. Melrose, meanwhile, has been a ratings misfit, which explains The CW's decision to pick up only five additional episodes instead of the typical nine. Of course, that number could go up if Heather Locklear is able to work her ratings magic next month. |
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I was SO expecting someone to say, "Oh my God, they killed Vicki!" "You bastard!" this episode, because that's what it seems like in
every episode that she'd be attacked and nearly killed but would always come but in the next episode unscathed. Glad to see now that she's a vamp now
and we are in for some VICKIOWNAGE!
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YAY FULL SEASONS<333333333333
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TimmyTAR wrote: It was perfect, no self esteem, smoking hot, and no future. She just screamed Vampire Makeover! |
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Was anyone else almost in t.ears by the end of the epi? Poor Stefan!!!
And good riddance to the newscaster thief who died! Asshole! *love* that Vicks is a vampire now!!! |
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The CW is pulling re-runs of Melrose Place on Wednesday nights and replacing it with (previous week) re-runs of Vampire Diaries.
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pleasepassthepork wrote:Yes, yes I do...haha. |
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OMG, they killed--
YOU BASTARDS! |
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meggie28 |
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I'm okay with Really Dead Vicki because I actually really liked how it affected the Elena/Jeremy relationship. I loved her just wanting to make it all
better for him.
This show keeps getting better. It's so cheesy and yet kind of good too! And after that episode, now I'm ready for Damon and Elena to hook up. Or maybe Damon and Bonnie. It's still doing great in the ratings too. The Vampire Diaries Viewers: #5, 4.19 million A18-49: #5, 2.0/ 5
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meatball77 |
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That's huge for the timeslot they have it in, and terrific for the WB.
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Prime Minister |
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Vicki during these past two episodes was the best thing going on this series.
So disappointing that the only female worth watching dies (for real) Elena has become such a killjoy and sanctimonious twat that I want Damon to make a blood power shake out of her. |
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I love Vicky so much, and then they kill her off!! "this daylight thing is a BITCH!"
Elena is definitely a killjoy. Really starting to like Damon. I want Bonnie and Vicky's brother to start having a bigger impact, as I like both of them. I hope Stefan grows some balls soon. |
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meggie28 |
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Vicky was my least favorite of all the girls. I love Elena. I like that her life isn't all about Stefan. She still cares about her friends and worries
about her brother. And Bonnie and Caroline are both way more interesting to me than Vicky ever was. Next week looks awesome. I'm ready for Bonnie to get
her powers and try and take on Damon.
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