Obama = Lord of the Dance

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merkyl		#2801	[-]
Posts: 63202 (10/29/09 4:48 PM) Registered loser Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	But what about Shag? How is she gonna know that Snickers bar is bad for her unless the gub'ment tells her!!!
springfeverish		#2802	[-]
Posts: 3647 (10/29/09 4:50 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Too bad no one told you.
PoChop		#2803	[-]
Posts: 2935 (10/29/09 4:53 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I wouldn't dare click on link to a 1,900 page pdf file, but you want to feel the intrusion of the government into your RAM, here it is: http://health.burgess.house.gov/UploadedFiles/House_HCR_bill.pdf
Trixie Delight		#2804	[-]
Posts: 28306 (10/29/09 4:59 PM) put Angel in the corner Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Have you fuckas been discussing the 24K per taxpayer that the cash for clunkers cost? If so, I hope there has been some solid bitch representation.
Charming Nemesis		#2805	[-]
Posts: 8923 (10/29/09 5:13 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I heard about that. Also this. A total of 690,000 new vehicles were sold under the Cash for Clunkers program last summer, but only 125,000 of those were vehicles that would not have been sold anyway, according to an analysis released Wednesday by the automotive Web site Edmunds.com.
Pahrump Mania		#2806	[-]
Posts: 4932 (10/29/09 5:14 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Trixie Delight wrote: Have you fuckas been discussing the 24K per taxpayer that the cash for clunkers cost? If so, I hope there has been some solid bitch representation. That's per car, according to Edmunds.
skydivesq		#2807	[-]
Posts: 1718 (10/29/09 5:52 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Is everyone in government completely retarded? Also, how is the recession ending when people keep getting laid off. I think the only reason that the stock market went up is because Wall Streets sees that this administration is so fucked up that they can't get anything done, if they can't get anything done, they can't do any more damage.
bob2559		#2808	[-]
Posts: 6189 (10/29/09 7:13 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Seeing as the AP has reported that the jobs created/saved from the porkulus bill have been greatly inflated by the Obama administration, what else is new? link 1 link 2 Now let's see if the libs 1) put their fingers in their ears and go "lalala I can't hear you" 2) attack the people who wrote the articles or 3) find some facts that dispute the articles. I'm betting on 1 and 2.
thecolbster		#2809	[-]
Posts: 1516 (10/29/09 7:16 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Without clicking on a link (afraid of cat pron), I'm guessing #3 and #2. You really need a new schtick.
Pahrump Mania		#2810	[-]
Posts: 4938 (10/29/09 9:41 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So the Dems are happy that for a measly trillion dollars 96% of Americans will have insurance instead of 90%? And who are the additional 6% that will be added, the people who think they are healthy enough to not have insurance, or the people who are eligible for Medicare but haven't applied, or illegals, or is it the people who are counted when they miss one or two months insurance in a year because they changed jobs and didn't want to pay COBRA, or is it illegal aliens? Or to put it another way, we will shell out 100 billion a year to insure about 20 million more people, or $5000 per person. Even if it's 25 million more people that's $4000 per person per year.
donbrasco4		#2811	[-]
Posts: 2155 (10/29/09 10:01 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Pahrump Mania wrote: And who are the additional 6% that will be added, the people who think they are healthy enough to not have insurance, or the people who are eligible for Medicare but haven't applied, or illegals, or is it the people who are counted when they miss one or two months insurance in a year because they changed jobs and didn't want to pay COBRA, or is it illegal aliens? Me, for one. I can't buy insurance on the open market (uninsurable) and I'm currently on a HIPAA plan - out of COBRA.
HaroldBalzaccio		#2812	[-]
Posts: 7633 (10/29/09 10:08 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Pahrump Mania wrote: Or to put it another way, we will shell out 100 billion a year to insure about 20 million more people, or $5000 per person. Even if it's 25 million more people that's $4000 per person per year. I don't see how it's possible to reconcile an estimated cost that LOW, when Medicare recipients are using up about double that number per patient now, and every single taxpayer in the country pays to cover those costs. So go ahead and double the estimated costs, and factor in at least $10billion per year in losses to fraud. The whole idea reeks of incompetence.
B DeBrun		#2813	[-]
Posts: 22052 (10/29/09 10:16 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	like this Harry?
pussycow		#2814	[-]
Posts: 5787 (10/29/09 10:18 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	HaroldBalzaccio wrote: Pahrump Mania wrote: Or to put it another way, we will shell out 100 billion a year to insure about 20 million more people, or $5000 per person. Even if it's 25 million more people that's $4000 per person per year. I don't see how it's possible to reconcile an estimated cost that LOW, when Medicare recipients are using up about double that number per patient now, and every single taxpayer in the country pays to cover those costs. So go ahead and double the estimated costs, and factor in at least $10billion per year in losses to fraud. The whole idea reeks of incompetence. Yes it's easily going to cost twice or thrice the projected cost. The same thing happened with Medicare and Medicaid
donbrasco4		#2815	[-]
Posts: 2156 (10/29/09 10:18 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	HaroldBalzaccio wrote: Pahrump Mania wrote: Or to put it another way, we will shell out 100 billion a year to insure about 20 million more people, or $5000 per person. Even if it's 25 million more people that's $4000 per person per year. I don't see how it's possible to reconcile an estimated cost that LOW, when Medicare recipients are using up about double that number per patient now, and every single taxpayer in the country pays to cover those costs. So go ahead and double the estimated costs, and factor in at least $10billion per year in losses to fraud. The whole idea reeks of incompetence. Going just off the bill in the House, the public option is a pay-into system that charges slightly above market rates/monthly premiums to offset the costs (acc/to the wall street journal). So, the federal government wouldn't break even from premiums collected, any overages would be charged to the taxpayer (hence the cost).
PoChop		#2816	[-]
Posts: 2936 (10/29/09 10:35 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	What happned to this health plan paying for itself after the fraud was removed and we moved all health records to electronic format to massively increase the efficiency of health care delivery?
HaroldBalzaccio		#2817	[-]
Posts: 7634 (10/29/09 11:10 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	B DeBrun wrote: like this Harry? Exactly like that, Mr. DeBrun. CBS (I'm serious, they're turning on Obama like a handicapped rabid dog) raped the Medicare system's handling of fraud on 60 Minutes this past Sunday. At $60billion per year, cleaning up that fraud should cover at least 10 million people. Factor in the rest of the waste, and the government could cover maybe 15 million without raising taxes. Obama said a few months ago that we could cover 2/3rds of the uninsured (he claimed 45 million uninsured, then reduced that number to 30 million) through Medicare reform alone (based on His cost estimates), so 15 million is roughly half what he promised. Half is better than nothing, especially when it involves ZERO cost to the taxpayers. Why not wait until after we get a grip on Medicare before jumping into a trillion dollar hole? Fix what we already have in place, then come up with something better.
bob2559		#2818	[-]
Posts: 6190 (10/30/09 12:43 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	^ racist neocon
Flatulence Symphony		#2819	[-]
Posts: 553 (10/30/09 6:10 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	HaroldBalzaccio wrote: Exactly like that, Mr. DeBrun. CBS (I'm serious, they're turning on Obama like a handicapped rabid dog) raped the Medicare system's handling of fraud on 60 Minutes this past Sunday. At $60billion per year, cleaning up that fraud should cover at least 10 million people. Factor in the rest of the waste, and the government could cover maybe 15 million without raising taxes. Obama said a few months ago that we could cover 2/3rds of the uninsured (he claimed 45 million uninsured, then reduced that number to 30 million) through Medicare reform alone (based on His cost estimates), so 15 million is roughly half what he promised. Half is better than nothing, especially when it involves ZERO cost to the taxpayers. Why not wait until after we get a grip on Medicare before jumping into a trillion dollar hole? Fix what we already have in place, then come up with something better. Exactly.
Beefcake		#2820	[-]
Posts: 4482 (10/30/09 7:17 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Don't you people understand? We're in a CRISIS!!! WE MUST ACT NOW!!!

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