S-19 Edgic (editing and logic)

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BlakeB717		#1941	[-]
Posts: 1968 (10/27/09 12:01 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Phoenix1269 wrote: Edgic Losers Percentage of possible loser votes 100.00% - Brett Clouser 100.00% - Dave Ball 100.00% - John Fincher 100.00% - Kelly Sharbaugh 100.00% - Laura Morett 81.25% - Natalie White 75.00% - Elizabeth Kim 75.00% - Erik Cardona 75.00% - Monica Padilla 31.25% - Jaison Robinson 25.00% - Russell Hantz 0.00% - Mick Trimming 0.00% - Shannon Waters Edgic Winners Percentage of winner votes received 95.83% - Mick Trimming 27.08% - Shannon Waters 14.58% - Natalie White 12.50% - Russell Hantz 4.17% - Erik Cardona 4.17% - Jaison Robinson 0.00% - Brett Clouser 0.00% - Dave Ball 0.00% - Elizabeth Kim 0.00% - John Fincher 0.00% - Kelly Sharbaugh 0.00% - Laura Morett 0.00% - Monica Padilla I'm definitely surprised by a lot of this. Why isn't Mick 100%? Something smells fishy, especially since no one (that I've seen) has Mick out of their Top 2. Why is Natalie getting such a high %? Whether she's end game or not, she still cannot win with that edit. How is Monica's elimination % only 75%? I'm definitely concerned with some of those %s... they seem very strange...
BlakeB717		#1942	[-]
Posts: 1969 (10/27/09 12:02 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	OTH has definitely got some tough choices ahead of him. Those tone close-calls are all pretty tough!!
ncassaro		#1943	[-]
Posts: 1650 (10/27/09 1:47 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	BlakeB717 wrote: Phoenix1269 wrote: Edgic Losers Percentage of possible loser votes 100.00% - Brett Clouser 100.00% - Dave Ball 100.00% - John Fincher 100.00% - Kelly Sharbaugh 100.00% - Laura Morett 81.25% - Natalie White 75.00% - Elizabeth Kim 75.00% - Erik Cardona 75.00% - Monica Padilla 31.25% - Jaison Robinson 25.00% - Russell Hantz 0.00% - Mick Trimming 0.00% - Shannon Waters Edgic Winners Percentage of winner votes received 95.83% - Mick Trimming 27.08% - Shannon Waters 14.58% - Natalie White 12.50% - Russell Hantz 4.17% - Erik Cardona 4.17% - Jaison Robinson 0.00% - Brett Clouser 0.00% - Dave Ball 0.00% - Elizabeth Kim 0.00% - John Fincher 0.00% - Kelly Sharbaugh 0.00% - Laura Morett 0.00% - Monica Padilla I'm definitely surprised by a lot of this. Why isn't Mick 100%? Something smells fishy, especially since no one (that I've seen) has Mick out of their Top 2. Why is Natalie getting such a high %? Whether she's end game or not, she still cannot win with that edit. How is Monica's elimination % only 75%? I'm definitely concerned with some of those %s... they seem very strange... Yeah.... I dunno if Natalie wins or not (I am spoiled--hence my lack of edgic participation--but I dunno who wins) but Natalie was INV. Hence she is a 100% edgic loser. If she wins it's an edgic anomaly.
getting real		#1944	[-]
Posts: 1834 (10/27/09 5:09 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	This is a season where a non-loser wins. No, I'm not being facetious. What I mean is that this is another season where the winner comes about by default, because a high visibility person loses. Natalie's editing manipulation is the best of the nobodies.
guatemala fanfic		#1945	[-]
Posts: 5365 (10/27/09 7:21 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Edgic Losers Percentage of possible loser votes 100.00% - Brett Clouser 100.00% - Dave Ball 100.00% - John Fincher 100.00% - Kelly Sharbaugh 100.00% - Laura Morett 81.25% - Natalie White 75.00% - Elizabeth Kim 75.00% - Erik Cardona 75.00% - Monica Padilla 31.25% - Jaison Robinson 25.00% - Russell Hantz 0.00% - Mick Trimming 0.00% - Shannon Waters I swear I eliminatd Shambo. If I didn't I meant to. Or did my votes not go through for some reason??
menelaus		#1946	[-]
Posts: 467 (10/27/09 8:08 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Werwanderflugen wrote: What? Natalie in the top three? ...seriously? ........seriously? The editing implies that she does better than Russell, who makes the endgame. That gives her a better chance than him. And the edits are just that horrible this season.
getting real		#1947	[-]
Posts: 1835 (10/27/09 8:10 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	guatemala fanfic wrote: Edgic Losers Percentage of possible loser votes 100.00% - Brett Clouser 100.00% - Dave Ball 100.00% - John Fincher 100.00% - Kelly Sharbaugh 100.00% - Laura Morett 81.25% - Natalie White 75.00% - Elizabeth Kim 75.00% - Erik Cardona 75.00% - Monica Padilla 31.25% - Jaison Robinson 25.00% - Russell Hantz 0.00% - Mick Trimming 0.00% - Shannon Waters I swear I eliminatd Shambo. If I didn't I meant to. Or did my votes not go through for some reason?? I did as well. I'm sure Phoenix will amend in due course.
fat little fingers		#1948	[-]
Posts: 6299 (10/27/09 9:01 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	but Natalie was INV. Hence she is a 100% edgic loser. If she wins it's an edgic anomaly. Guideline #4: The winner is very unlikely to receive an INV rating during the course of the season, and will likely receive at least a 2 visibility in Episode 1. Officially, an INV makes winning very unlikely. We've stayed clear of any inflexible guidelines. Therefore, someone with an INV is still Edgically viable to be considered or, at least, can't be ruled out for an INV alone. But, Natalie also received that last part of the guideline, an Ep1 UTR1. Those two combined makes her winner chances extremely small. I personally rule her out for it, but the guideline gives, (they all give), a tiny amount of wiggle room for someone to still consider the edit. Personally, I wouldn't be too surprised to see a future winner with one INV. I aknowledge that Parvati's win has a very contentious UTR1. INV's weakness is that we've allowed the tolerance level to move around. A player's visibility in one INV may be more or less than another's. The subjectivity will always leave us open to an INV in a winner's edit. But... If this makes you want to go back and reevaluate a player, you should take a long, hard look at the rest of their edit.
Kitty Pryde1		#1949	[-]
Posts: 10795 (10/27/09 9:23 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	What I want to know is: why has Jaison been written off by so many people? I mean, yeah, he's talked about quitting, and Mick is a much better option...but Jaison's first episode was MOR (his UTR on the chart makes no sense given the narrative confessionals he was given) and he's been a big character that we actually KNOW since then (compared to Mick, who's just there). And it's not like Jaison's whining hasn't been backed up. I mean, we saw his hands turn pale white from all the rain. I'm not saying he's got the best edit of all time, but he's not horrible, and it's certainly better than someone like Shambo, who's been portrayed as a complete moron for several episodes now.
Oowatanite		#1950	[-]
Posts: 9109 (10/27/09 10:13 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Werwanderflugen wrote: What? Natalie in the top three? ...seriously? ........seriously? It's simply a byproduct of three winner options being available still, so edgicers just throw any name in there, rather than leaving the extra winner slots blank.
unduli clone		#1951	[-]
Posts: 7640 (10/27/09 10:24 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I got votes in this week, but I read one single spoiler on one single contestant, so my votes for either winners or eliminations are not happening. The spoiler didn't affect whether I had the player on my winner's list or elimination list though, since it's pretty much remained static for the past few episodes.
9RedWing19		#1952	[-]
Posts: 2659 (10/27/09 12:49 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	BlakeB717 wrote: I'm curious, how many Edgicers ARE Canadian? Post a big green X! X X Generally our way of spelling gives us away ...
SFC		#1953	[-]
Posts: 750 (10/27/09 1:19 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Oowatanite wrote: Werwanderflugen wrote: What? Natalie in the top three? ...seriously? ........seriously? It's simply a byproduct of three winner options being available still, so edgicers just throw any name in there, rather than leaving the extra winner slots blank. OH! I thought we had to fill in each blank. Since I eliminated everyone but Mick, I just chose Natalie for the second choice since she would be a Type B winner for me., but still Mick gets the top spot.
BlakeB717		#1954	[-]
Posts: 1970 (10/27/09 2:46 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Actually, this week we had two options instead of three.
Warrior	Close Calls	#1955	[-]
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cindidindi76		#1956	[-]
Posts: 20264 (10/27/09 2:50 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Just an FYI, there's already complete bootlists floating around for season 20. I don't know if any of you guys check out the future seasons forum between seasons, but there's a good chance if you go in there you'll get spoiled. Obviously, these bootlists could end up being just as wrong as some of the early spoilers from FvF, but who knows.
SurvivorGuy24		#1957	[-]
Posts: 983 (10/27/09 2:56 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yeah, might as well enjoy S19 edgic, as bad as the editing so far has been. It will be virtually impossible to do edgic for S20. The entire bootlist (including possible winner) has leaked, confirmed by two separate sources. Not to mention the fact that seasons with returning players are always difficult.
OnlyTheHunter		#1958	[-]
Posts: 2032 (10/27/09 4:41 PM) Edgician Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Why would anyone officially eliminate Jaison or Shambo? Even if they aren't your number one choice, read the guidelines and tell me why either would be eliminated? I don't get it. I'll look at the close calls. Two of the three I think my mind is made up, but one I don't really have a strong leaning. Good posts about all three have already happened. PHOENIX, I need a clarification, and this is not tipping my hand, since I don't just rubber stamp my original votes as ToneDog - Erik, is the choice between Mixed and neutral, or is P also an option? I can't recall. I'll post my ideas tonight. Michael
NickF227		#1959	[-]
Posts: 12341 (10/27/09 5:28 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	OnlyTheHunter wrote: Why would anyone officially eliminate Jaison or Shambo? Even if they aren't your number one choice, read the guidelines and tell me why either would be eliminated? I don't get it. Well, Shambo I understand, I guess, but like... Talking about quitting isn't very...winner-ish.
Us Kids Know		#1960	[-]
Posts: 11199 (10/27/09 5:53 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Didn't Jenna talk about quitting, like, several times?

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