Who is the most underrated player ever?

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kenc333		#21	[-]
Posts: 9632 (10/26/09 7:17 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	You think they all loved her from the edit (which didn't convince me, really), but according to someone who was in Brazil with her, it's not the case: http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5194889/t/Please-read-me-blogging-about-strategy-.html#reply-5194889 Scroll down to see Stephen's outline of how Erinn loses to Coach and Sierra too. ETA: LAC1, even though Amanda lost a couple of votes in China, she allegedly had a horrid social game (which she acknowledged to Courtney, saying why they should vote out Todd), which definitely made FTC votes fall off of her easier. Even if Erinn gave a great FTC, it wouldn't redeem her social game. Last Edited By: kenc333 10/26/09 7:19 PM. Edited 1 times.
ilovekelly752		#22	[-]
Posts: 104 (10/26/09 7:19 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LibrasAbandonedChild1 wrote: GrenadeJumper85 wrote: ilovekelly752 wrote: brilliant strategist, maybe if she bragged like Russell it would go noticed Okay no. She was hardly a brilliant strategist and seemed like for a good majority of the game she was just a hanger-on to the Jalapao 3. Then she maneuvered herself into a position where there was no way she was going to get to the F2 unless she won immunity. Yea, definitely a brilliant player. Uhhhh, WTF!? She made the absolute BEST out of a VERY BAD situation. She was the next to go simply because she befriended the girl everyone disliked. She then played huge roles in the Timbira immunity wins until the merge. She then knew she was on the very bottom of the Timbira 6, and knew she had to do something about it, so she flipped. She went from the bottom of an alliance of 6, to the bottom of an alliance of 4. At the final four she was literally milliseconds away from winning immunity. Even when she WASN'T immune at the F4, she was able to persuade JT and Stephen to break up one of the most closest alliances in Survivor history, the Jalapao 3. We also knew that if Stephen had won immunity, he WOULD have taken Erinn. So Erinn went from someone who was going to get the boot on day 9, to someone who was the one immunity challange away from winding up in the finals, whether her or Stephen won it. The only reason she was booted at the F3 was because it was JT's decision. ERINNOWNAGE <333333333 Yep, she did all of that. The Tyson blindside was also her idea, and she convinced Stephen and Taj to keep her over Coach in the final five, and over Debbie in the final 6.
Maniacboy888		#23	[-]
Posts: 2881 (10/26/09 7:21 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think Julie was very underrated. She managed to come back from Mia's blindside. Wiggled her way into the men's alliance and tricked Twila into telling her that the men had put Twila over Julie.
MJSLawrence		#24	[-]
Posts: 2395 (10/26/09 7:23 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	JohnnyK wrote: Probably not the most underrated, but I think Tracy fits this category. Her and Sugar...
ilovekelly752		#25	[-]
Posts: 105 (10/26/09 7:24 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	kenc333 wrote: You think they all loved her from the edit (which didn't convince me, really), but according to someone who was in Brazil with her, it's not the case: http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5194889/t/Please-read-me-blogging-about-strategy-.html#reply-5194889 Scroll down to see Stephen's outline of how Erinn loses to Coach and Sierra too. ETA: LAC1, even though Amanda lost a couple of votes in China, she allegedly had a horrid social game (which she acknowledged to Courtney, saying why they should vote out Todd), which definitely made FTC votes fall off of her easier. Even if Erinn gave a great FTC, it wouldn't redeem her social game. I have a hard time believing Coach and Debbie would vote for Sierra, and Sierra and Brendan would vote for Coach. I know someone who was out there would know 1,000,000 times more than a viewer, but unless he asked them all, he wouldn't really know for sure either. Even if he's dead on, she still did all she did to get to that point, so if either she or Stephen won that final challenge, at worst she's another Boston Rob, another player I consider to be amazing.
tomash		#26	[-]
Posts: 1579 (10/26/09 7:26 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ITA on Julie. In fact, a lot of the Vanuatu cast is probably underrated.
LibrasAbandonedChild1		#27	[-]
Posts: 1037 (10/26/09 7:44 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	kenc333 wrote: You think they all loved her from the edit (which didn't convince me, really), but according to someone who was in Brazil with her, it's not the case: http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5194889/t/Please-read-me-blogging-about-strategy-.html#reply-5194889 Scroll down to see Stephen's outline of how Erinn loses to Coach and Sierra too. ETA: LAC1, even though Amanda lost a couple of votes in China, she allegedly had a horrid social game (which she acknowledged to Courtney, saying why they should vote out Todd), which definitely made FTC votes fall off of her easier. Even if Erinn gave a great FTC, it wouldn't redeem her social game. The reason she had a bad social game was because all of Timbira hated her and resented that she made it farther than them. Timbira for the most part treated her like shit. I don't see how it could all be blamed on her personally. It was just all of Timbira disliked her for making it farther than them. As simple as that. Atleast we know that if it were Erinn/JT final 2 it would've been at the very least 6-1. And if it was Erinn/Stephen I think it would've been closer.
ilovekelly752		#28	[-]
Posts: 106 (10/26/09 7:56 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	LibrasAbandonedChild1 wrote: kenc333 wrote: You think they all loved her from the edit (which didn't convince me, really), but according to someone who was in Brazil with her, it's not the case: http://www.survivorsucks.com/reply/5194889/t/Please-read-me-blogging-about-strategy-.html#reply-5194889 Scroll down to see Stephen's outline of how Erinn loses to Coach and Sierra too. ETA: LAC1, even though Amanda lost a couple of votes in China, she allegedly had a horrid social game (which she acknowledged to Courtney, saying why they should vote out Todd), which definitely made FTC votes fall off of her easier. Even if Erinn gave a great FTC, it wouldn't redeem her social game. The reason she had a bad social game was because all of Timbira hated her and resented that she made it farther than them. Timbira for the most part treated her like shit. I don't see how it could all be blamed on her personally. It was just all of Timbira disliked her for making it farther than them. As simple as that. Atleast we know that if it were Erinn/JT final 2 it would've been at the very least 6-1. And if it was Erinn/Stephen I think it would've been closer. Yeah, I really think Brendan and Sierra would've voted for her. They were pretty much the only two Timbira members who had an ounce of respect for her. If she would've explained what she did, and talked about how well she played the game, she might've gotten those two, and possibly a fourth vote from Coach or JT out of bitterness.
WylDawg		#29	[-]
Posts: 20705 (10/26/09 8:07 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'd have to go with Lill too. The only player who was never blindsided post-merge. She wasn't a mastermind per se, but brilliant at assessing the situation and putting herself in a safe spot.
LaurenTheLush		#30	[-]
Posts: 4357 (10/26/09 8:20 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I agree with those that mentioned Julie from Vanuatu. I think she was overshadowed by the characters and strategy of some of the others she was in the Final 9 with, but I think she played a great game and made some really good moves out there.
ilovekelly752		#31	[-]
Posts: 107 (10/26/09 8:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I think Jaime from China should deserve a mention in this thread. She basically controlled Erik and Sherea for the first few weeks. Unfortunately for her, Todd saw that, and sent her home.
GrenadeJumper85		#32	[-]
Posts: 14147 (10/26/09 8:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I agree on Julie too. Her best move was when she got the guys on her tribe to boot John K over her and Twila.
Maniacboy888		#33	[-]
Posts: 2883 (10/26/09 8:24 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Plus who can forget how she got Twila to admit that the men had made an alliance with T and not her
JackSparrowBauer		#34	[-]
Posts: 2717 (10/26/09 8:31 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	How can people call Julie, Erinn and Tracy underrated when everyone here worships their gameplay? How can that possibly make them underrated? anyway, imo, the most underrated player of all time is far and away DREAMZ!
ilovekelly752		#35	[-]
Posts: 109 (10/26/09 8:41 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	JackSparrowBauer wrote: How can people call Julie, Erinn and Tracy underrated when everyone here worships their gameplay? How can that possibly make them underrated? anyway, imo, the most underrated player of all time is far and away DREAMZ! It's not everyone. The fact that I had three people who argued with me about Erinn, in my opinion means that by those three people, and whoever else would argue that she was a good player, she is underrated. Yes, there are a lot of people who do see how well they played, but I think there are a lot who don't. Also, I do think Dreamz was pretty underrated, along with Stacey that season.
JackSparrowBauer		#36	[-]
Posts: 2720 (10/26/09 8:54 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well obviously I didn't mean literally everyone, but seeing as Erinn was easily the most popular Tocantins member, she gets tons and tons of people saying that she was a great player. Don't get me wrong, I loved her, and she played a decent game, but she is incredibly overrated.
Thailandsurvivor		#37	[-]
Posts: 8416 (10/26/09 9:02 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I've hated Ozzy with a burning passion ever since Cook Islands, and the hate got even worse during Micronesia. He is one of my three least favorite players of all time. Because of this, I have to say he is pretty damn underrated because his gameplay in Micronesia wasn't that bad. His condescending attitude and ridiculous actions were, but if we are only judging based on game play, then I sadly have to give him the title. (Although I will never give him any credit for his shitty strategy in CI). His social game sucked to people he didn't like, but he was considered the leader of an alliance of five which was in charge pre swap, he took control post swap and made all the decisions (minus Joel leaving), and he picked up an extremely loyal ally in Erik. Even when he went out, three people were not willing to see him leave.
BlakeB717		#38	[-]
Posts: 1966 (10/26/09 9:15 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Overrated would be Erinn. Fantards give her way too much credit. Moving on... Jenn Lyon was a very good player in Palau based on the Season DVD. It's a shame we didn't see that at ALL on the show. I have a feeling Becky was also a lot better of a player but got much less airtime because she didn't win.
survivorfanfromaustralia		#39	[-]
Posts: 15 (10/26/09 10:07 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I would first like to say that the more people that agree that someone is underrated leads them closer to being overrated....pretty ironic...anyway my list of underrated players......... Dani from guatemala.....never got close to getting voted out before the merge....and made a wonderful tactical move by making a two-person alliance with rafe (another underrated player)...theses two allowed Judd, Jamie and to a certain extent Stephenie implode...which got them as far as possible...but Dani > Rafe coz she won and was in a minority during the merge Johnny Fairplay and Dreamz were also underrated as they, on numerous occassions, turned their heads off the chopping block and deter to someone else, but this was mostly ignored due to the bashings they get from the general public and sucksters
GrenadeJumper85		#40	[-]
Posts: 14155 (10/26/09 10:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I don't think Fairplay is underrated at all. Despite the fact that he was a big assclown, I think most people agree that he played a damn good game during Pearl Islands. If Sandra couldn't win, Fairplay was my second choice during that season.

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