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crocophile		#21	[-]
Posts: 10909 (10/06/09 9:47 AM) MESS Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The player need not be removed from the game for dehydration. Blake and BJ were actually treated and re-entered the game in Guatemala. The key for them is they did not miss a challenge or TC. Shion is Queen reported that Shannon was also hurt about 2 weeks in, which is about in this time frame. The player is not necessarily GRuss.
JT4ever		#22	[-]
Posts: 163 (10/06/09 10:06 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	crocophile wrote: The key for them is they did not miss a challenge or TC Right. The Roll with It challenge was not run to completion. What happens when a player is injured in the middle of a challenge and unable to continue? Does the affected team automatically forfeit the challenge? And does that mean the injured member has in effect "missed" the challenge and must therefore leave the game? Or are they allowed to come back as long as they don't miss a TC? Or is the team normally allowed to replace the player with one of the players they had sat down for the challenge? Does this mean the challenge is restarted from scratch, regardless of the state of the challenge (was a team in a significant lead? was construction work destroyed that needs to be repaired for the challenge to start again?) What if the affected team was down in numbers and didn't even have an extra player sitting out? Is that the only way a challenge wouldn't be completed or rerun? Would that mean the injured player in this case was on Foa Foa? I'm thinking the simplest scenario is the most plausible. Hurt player, team unable to complete challenge, forced exit. But who knows? Last Edited By: JT4ever 10/06/09 10:13 AM. Edited 3 times.
hagiz1		#23	[-]
Posts: 863 (10/06/09 10:11 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The article mentions it's never completed. So I guess it means they never redone the challenge. Simple as that. I'm thinking it probably will be considered that the challenge never existed.
JT4ever		#24	[-]
Posts: 164 (10/06/09 10:17 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	nevermind Last Edited By: JT4ever 10/06/09 10:22 AM. Edited 1 times.
crocophile		#25	[-]
Posts: 10910 (10/06/09 10:47 AM) MESS Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Injured during a challenge? Jeff Wilson just stopped competing in Palau. Ben was evicted but replaced in S19. I'm not sure how that relates to not finishing. There could have been a foreiture. Maybe the other tribe committed a foul. Maybe one tribe didn't have enough players any more. I'm sure several more.
hagiz1		#26	[-]
Posts: 867 (10/06/09 10:55 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The only one I remembered who was injured during a challenge was Jim from Guatemala during the first IC. He snapped his biceps I think. I mean that didn't stop the challenge. He just stop helping after that happened. I'm sure when it said "the challenge never reached completion" It means that the player was medivac hence no reason to continue the challenge.
birdlady		#27	[-]
Posts: 2897 (10/06/09 12:22 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Yeah, some challenges a player could stand around being useless and that's your tribe's business. Some challenges each member of the team has to do something (like complete an obstacle course). The rules are whatever MB and them say they are. I don't think they could get away with acting like the challenge never existed, though. They'll have to show it, to explain where the player went. But they could come up with some Samoan cultural mumbo jumbo, especially if it is the duly fishhooked leader who is removed, such that neither team won or lost. Shion is Queen reported that Shannon was also hurt about 2 weeks in, which is about in this time frame. The player is not necessarily GRuss. I was remembering that it was something about hurt her shoulder. Did I make that up?
crocophile		#28	[-]
Posts: 10911 (10/06/09 4:27 PM) MESS Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	It was her shoulder, and GRus was supposed to be an old injury - perhaps neither fit.
ActingDude17		#29	[-]
Posts: 57 (10/06/09 4:41 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	We do know there are two medivacs this season. One's already happened. Shambo AND Russell S. can't both be medivacs. Either one or the other (or neither).
VolcanicGlass		#30	[-]
Posts: 1387 (10/06/09 6:02 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The article does mention it is a Reward challenge. It turns out that cipher5150, a poster at Blows, was much more alert than I was, since he/she posted about the magazine article before I posted it here. Another Blows posted, CTgirl, posted a larger (therefore clearer) version of the scan than I did, also before I posted mine here. It can be seen at this link.
crocophile		#31	[-]
Posts: 10912 (10/06/09 7:47 PM) MESS Moderator Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If it's a life threatening deal related to dehydration I'm looking at who is not in shape. Shannon makes apparently makes it further so I'd rule her out. GRuss is in good physical shape, although the 'spoilers' make him a candidate as an evacuee. Is FatRuss in good shape? Dunno. Who else, maybe Liz? Going back to pre-game comments Ashley TDT noted this at MESS: "We lost a couple of people to evacuations" As I was going through the intro videos, I noticed that two people expressed worries about getting injured: Ashley: "And also be very cautious, you know, when walking around, because you don't want to get like, medicaled out... at all." Shannon: "I'm going for it. It's gonna be all good. As long as I don't get hurt." I don't know that this actually happens to either of them, but considering how chopped up the intro videos are, it's interesting that they chose to include these specific sound bites. Shannon reportedly is hurt albeit not enough to remove her. By words Ashley would be a possibility in ep 6 although contrary to the 'spoilers'.
birdlady		#32	[-]
Posts: 2898 (10/06/09 8:28 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I would believe what someone said earlier, that Good Russell would drink less than his share of scarce water, because he thinks it's his fault or he thinks he's in good enough shape to do without or he's taking care of the women or such. If we're going back to the beginning to look for subtle hints, there's still the edit weirdness of John's E1 collapse and negativity...
Heliox		#33	[-]
Posts: 3396 (10/07/09 10:30 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	That is a good point Birdlady. The whole 'get up off the mat' thing that John was doing. Maybe he does collapse and this time he does not get back up. I was the one that brought up Good Russ falling to his own belief that as leader he should take on the biggest burden, and not drink the water to leave it for his ladies. I wonder if this happened if he would be thought of as a hero? Maybe we will get the widows on Galu crying and lamenting the loss of their beloved Russ and they will plot to revenge him!
rower		#34	[-]
Posts: 2634 (10/07/09 9:10 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	"Maybe we will get the widows on Galu crying and lamenting the loss of their beloved Russ and they will plot to revenge him!" I know what you were doing this summer!!!
rower		#35	[-]
Posts: 2635 (10/07/09 9:25 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I could see Shambo getting her shoulder hurt in this challenge. It could happen whether she is inside the ball or pushing. As to the dehydration, well that could be anyone. I would suspect it would be one of the "rollers" because they would he exerting the most energy, sweating and generating the body heat that could cause a collapse. So I guess I would be looking at which four players are most likely picked to be the persons "rolling" the ball.
Kona		#36	[-]
Posts: 656 (10/08/09 9:09 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Wouldn't a 5 by 5 tribal challenge tend to discredit a merge at 12?
JT4ever		#37	[-]
Posts: 176 (10/08/09 9:11 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kona wrote: Wouldn't a 5 by 5 tribal challenge tend to discredit a merge at 12? Why? At 9 - 5, one tribe could sit down 4 members, right?
Kona		#38	[-]
Posts: 658 (10/08/09 9:54 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	JT4ever wrote: Kona wrote: Wouldn't a 5 by 5 tribal challenge tend to discredit a merge at 12? Why? At 9 - 5, one tribe could sit down 4 members, right? Well, that's why. That's a lot of potential sit outs so late in the tribal game. There must be some sort of upcoming 'evening out' of the tribes to guarantee at least 5 people on each side. Episode 6 must start with 14, or 13 (or possibly even 12) with potential double boots and/or med evac. 3 or 4 just seem like a lot of sit outs.
JT4ever		#39	[-]
Posts: 179 (10/08/09 10:01 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kona wrote: Well, that's why. That's a lot of potential sit outs so late in the tribal game. [...] 3 or 4 just seem like a lot of sit outs. Remember Palau?
Kona		#40	[-]
Posts: 659 (10/08/09 10:18 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	JT4ever wrote: Remember Palau? Yeah. There was no 'even'ing up of the tribes there.

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