Wednesday night she told Natalie she was going to do a pinky swear and a kiss and then she told Natalie about her conversation with Kevin. I can't remember
but I don't know if she's gone into such detail with Kevin.
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I wanna get this on record: If Kevin wins phase 3...He takes Natalie to F2
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Posts: 19851 (09/11/09 8:18 AM) Registered User |
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Posts: 315 (09/11/09 8:18 AM) |
I don't think it's a given, but Grodner seemed to think Jordan would take Natalie to final 2 in the interview. I could see Jordan just going off
Jeff's old advice and being so against Kevin because I don't know much she thinks of or cares about winning. She might just want to avenge Jeff.
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Posts: 1154 (09/11/09 8:21 AM) |
oh ehm gee wrote:I think Jordan might stand a better chance against Kevin in the finals because if she's the one who evicts Kevin, he may rage against her with the jury and take Lydia's vote along with him. He'd have worked closest with Natalie to talk about all their missions together. I am sort of hoping Kevin wins it because I think he'll take Jordan and he'll be the one to piss off a bitter Natalie and she can work for Jordan in the jury house. |
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Posts: 3114 (09/11/09 8:32 AM) |
No one is going to jury house - F3 will have very little contact/time to influence anyone.
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Posts: 805 (09/11/09 8:38 AM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! |
Kevin should already know that America favor Jordan. After all, how did Jeff "given" Coup De Tact?
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Posts: 19854 (09/11/09 8:39 AM) Registered User |
He won't need a lot of time though. I don't think he has any strong influence over Lydia, but I think she may be so annoyed by a JN F2 that she might
just vote the way he does, especially if she thinks Jessie will also vote that way.
Jeff told Jordan that Natalie had too many friends on the jury. That might influence Jordan's decision, but she may always hate Kevin for getting rid of Jeff. If BB wants some type of "good" and "evil" F2, then the DR would also be telling her to pick Natalie. |
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Posts: 1155 (09/11/09 8:39 AM) |
Well not the jury house but like I'm imagining like BB7 where they talk about the houseguests and interview the final 2 like when Janelle was campaigning
against Erika. In that short time Howie went from saying Erika was an amazing player to voting against her because the others had told him that she's
talked badly about him after he was evicted. So they can still be influenced.
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Posts: 3116 (09/11/09 8:43 AM) |
James Barber wrote:but in getting rid of Jeff, Kevo kept Jordan..........M won veto, Jordan went up by the c.unt's hand.... |
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Posts: 62 (09/11/09 8:45 AM) |
Duh but Jordan seems to be following Jeff's orders ever since he left. I'm afraid she's not going to think of what's best because the
possibilities are too confusing and will just go with Jeff's default advice.
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Posts: 2687 (09/11/09 8:47 AM) Registered user |
Not saying that it's impossible that Kevin's intentionally misleading the viewers by lying in the diary room about wanting to evict Natalie. It's
possible he's doing that to win America's favor or to keep the producers from trying to change his mind if he really does want to bring Natalie... but
even if he doesn't think he stands a chance at winning America's vote if he's up against Jordan, does he really have any reason to think he'd
have a better chance of winning the whole game against Natalie?
The only reason I can think of as to why Kevin would take Natalie to the end is out of loyalty and I really don't think there's much of that there. The way I saw it, he only allied with her by default. After Lydia and Chima were gone, where else could he go? I never got the impression that he was particularly loyal to Natalie and after she lied to him about the PB twist, I doubt he feels like he needs to be. Kevin didn't use the Veto to take Lydia off the block that one week, which to me proves he's willing to turn his back on his friends if it serves his purposes. I think he thinks that Natalie letting him get his hands bloody (his role in the lie that got Russell evicted, him getting Jeff out) will hurt him with the jury and help her. So I don't think he's lying to the DR just to trick America into voting for him to win. Even if it worked, that's still just one vote. He has no reason to bring Natalie to the end over Jordan. He doesn't think he'll have Michele's (her "may the best wo... i mean player win" remark sealed that for him), Jessie's or probably Jeff's or Jordan's. That's four against him. |
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Posts: 1903 (09/11/09 9:01 AM) |
Kevin doesn't know the jury hates Gnat.
He knows America loves Jordan. In his head, he could see himself as #2 either way. Now, is he thinking two moves ahead and how does he want to be perceived once the game is over? That could play into his decision. Be forever linked to Nasty Gnat, or be the guy who gave Jordo the dough. Tough choice! haha |
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Posts: 14197 (09/11/09 9:12 AM) |
i have no idea what kevin's doing. but it's pretty telling that the DR did everything in their power to get him to keep jeff, and then michele in the
game---both of which would probably have torpedoed kevin's game! it's like he was being told 'just LOSE, asshole.'
of course i'm assuming he's telling the truth about that, but i think he is. |
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Posts: 261 (09/11/09 9:23 AM) |
Perhaps Kevin is getting skeevy because with a Jordan win at part 2 she now has some greater street cred on gameplay. Jordan made a reasonably good showing in
endurance and beat Nat handily in Part 2...He also knows that America has seen a lot of the gratuitous wickedness he and Nat purveyed. He may be getting a
sinking feeling that Jordan earned some respect, and with America voting worries about how they see his and Nat's viciousness.
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Posts: 553 (09/11/09 2:26 PM) |
Crappysucks wrote: Amen ...LOL |
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Posts: 3621 (09/12/09 5:57 PM) |
El Hutch wrote: Oh, please. Who do you think he is, Janelle? He doesn't give 2 shits what the white-trash fraus think. <Serena>He knows the people who watch this show are racist dumbasses.</Serena> |
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Posts: 1047 (09/12/09 7:00 PM) |
lol riff
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Posts: 494 (09/12/09 7:05 PM) Registered user |
moviegirl11 wrote:Gimme a break. The fact that Kevin didn't use the veto on Lydia was one of the biggest non-events all season. If Kevin thought that there was even a snowball's chance in hell that Lydia was going home he would have used it in a heartbeat. Lydia knew that too. What Grodner showed on TV was bogus and it sounds like you fell for it. She was probably just twisting the story to make everyone except her pets look to be unloyal and unturstworthy. At that time Chima's only other real immediate target would have been Jeff, who she suspected had the "mystery power". They decided to just leave well enough alone so he wouldn't use it whatever it may have been. As it turned out it all didn't matter anyway. |
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Posts: 2443 (09/12/09 7:06 PM) Registered user |
Pointless speculation. We all know Grodner is going to tell Jordan the answers in advance anyway. Kevin needs to focus on getting Jordan to take him and not
Natacunt.
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Posts: 1050 (09/12/09 7:13 PM) |
lol basically^^^^ I would be beside myself if Kevin beats the system and wins HOH<333 Good vibes Kevo
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Posts: 2290 (09/12/09 7:24 PM) Registered User |
I think Kevin thinks that if he is in the final 2 with Nat, she will take credit for all the backstabbing and lies and try to boost her cred. He prolly thinks
Jordan, Jeff, Michele, and Jessie will vote against him for sure and Russ too. He knows he has America's and Lydia's votes for sure against Nat, but
that's it.
If he takes Jordan, he will go for the "she rode coattails" speech & will have a much better shot at winning Russ & Jessie's votes.I I agree with James Barber. I think he was going to cut Nat but after they did their little walk down memory lane with scripts from production, he started to doubt his decision. The only thing I know for sure is that he's punking us all. |
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