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StarrEise		#1781	[-]
Posts: 9245 (06/27/09 8:25 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	growsonwalls wrote: CBRetriever wrote: Have you even seen the interview where he says he sees nothing wrong with sleeping with little boys? It's seriously creepy and will go down in history, along with his songs, forever tainting his image. Whether or not he was guilty of pedophilia, the accusations will always tarnish his image in much the same was as Richard Wagner is tarnished by his antisemitism I didn't get the sense that he was a predatory pedo more than a really disturbed, sad, troubled individual who didn't understand appropriate boundaries between children and adults. Oh, okay. Because that makes all the difference in the world. ::not enough rolly-eyed fuckers in the world
Gregoire		#1782	[-]
Posts: 33422 (06/27/09 8:26 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well, there is a major difference, just not a fundamental one from the point of view of the children. It's still potential abuse.
Pahrump Mania		#1783	[-]
Posts: 4133 (06/27/09 8:27 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Gregoire wrote: By the way, Madonna is a bigger pop icon than Michael Jackson. Yet why do we insist on calling him the KING of Pop? Queens can happily reign without male counterparts. Michael Jackson is really the jester of pop, perhaps an arch-duke of pop. Your gay is showing.
factoryhurl		#1784	[-]
Posts: 10056 (06/27/09 8:28 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I didn't get the sense that he was a predatory pedo more than a really disturbed, sad, troubled individual who didn't understand appropriate boundaries between children and adults. isn't that the definition of a pedo?
Trixie Delight		#1785	[-]
Posts: 27182 (06/27/09 8:33 AM) put Angel in the corner Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I didn't get the sense that he was a predatory pedo more than a really disturbed, sad, troubled individual who didn't understand appropriate boundaries between children and adults. That is the biggest piece of revisionist bullshit ever. There are no excuses for his molesation of children.
Gregoire		#1786	[-]
Posts: 33423 (06/27/09 8:34 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	He's actually more fucked up than a pedophile. A normal pedo understands the relationship between his or her adulthood and the child's adolescence, and then breeches it out of sexual satisfaction. I honestly think MJ failed to understand that he was ever really an adult, and I question whether it was always sexual satisfaction he was trying to achieve. Regardless, it still potentially does the very same damage to a child.
Monsieur Muggles		#1787	[-]
Posts: 7500 (06/27/09 8:36 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	What no one can dispute is that he let young boys sleep in his bed. What no one except those boys knows is if things progressed beyond simple sleeping in that bed. If he just let them sleep, then growsonwalls and gregoire are correct -- technically he wasn't a paedo inasmuch as he just didn't understand appropriate boundaries for an adult/child relationship.
Pahrump Mania		#1788	[-]
Posts: 4135 (06/27/09 8:37 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	we know that he slept with young, unrelated boys after the first scandal. No one would have done that if they weren't driven to have contact with children. I guess we cannot be sure he fucked any of them, but he was sick no matter how you looked at it.
UndifferentCow		#1789	[-]
Posts: 1241 (06/27/09 8:38 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Not making excuses for him, but the religion he comes from has a hugely high rate of pedos in it, I can only imagine what his childhood was like. That said I think pedos, should be skinned and salted rinsed and repeated until death occurs.
Je Fa		#1790	[-]
Posts: 2945 (06/27/09 8:39 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Gregoire he did know he was an adult, otherwise he wouldn't have complained that he hadn't had a childhood; he would've thought he was still in it.
growsonwalls		#1791	[-]
Posts: 3397 (06/27/09 8:44 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Gregoire wrote: He's actually more fucked up than a pedophile. A normal pedo understands the relationship between his or her adulthood and the child's adolescence, and then breeches it out of sexual satisfaction. I honestly think MJ failed to understand that he was ever really an adult, and I question whether it was always sexual satisfaction he was trying to achieve. Regardless, it still potentially does the very same damage to a child. This.
Baby Jesus Jr		#1792	[-]
Posts: 542 (06/27/09 8:45 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm repeatedly, awaiting all the asshole "artists" lining up for their own "special" tributes on the BET awards tonight(?) and various functions. ( Though Kanye on the live Ellen special will make me watch that for his take on all of this.."Michael hated black people!!1!" ...ok, prob. not) I do not need to see: Usher Diddy Beyonce Lionel Ritchie JUSTIN TIMBERLAKE Elton John Celine Stevie Wonder Ok, a Corey Feldman/Alphonso Ribeiro dance off would bring teh lulz.
SmrtAss		#1793	[-]
Posts: 6692 (06/27/09 8:45 AM) Lazy ass bitch, please Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	He wasn't retarded; he was perverted. Debbie Rowe has said that she was impregnated by artificial insemination via a sperm donor. She might be crazy, but I bet this is true.
factoryhurl		#1794	[-]
Posts: 10058 (06/27/09 8:47 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	yeah, the kid who described his private errors must have made it up. or maybe he was just sleeping in the same bed with him and his dick happened to flop out of his pajamas and the kid got a birds eye view. jackson has been described as having an accute business sense (music business-not his own money) and yet he just couldn't understand the appropriate boundries? even after he forked over millions in settlement and had photos taken of his errors...what would it take for him to understand what is and is not appropriate?
Gregoire		#1795	[-]
Posts: 33424 (06/27/09 8:54 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Je Fa wrote: Gregoire he did know he was an adult, otherwise he wouldn't have complained that he hadn't had a childhood; he would've thought he was still in it. He was still in it. I don't trust this individual to understand the meaning of the word 'adulthood' as he is clearly too disturbed to differentiate the nuances of human development. He clearly thought he was on the same wavelength as the children he frequently surrounded himself with. His created adolescence was reflected in almost everything he did in later life -- from his crappy failed music products of the last decades to his absurd sheltered behavior. The alternative is even more disturbing that I can't even think about it -- that he carefully tailored his entire career for the one result of luring then molesting children. I think the depths of his disturbing behavior will be coming out very shortly.
Apprentice Talker		#1796	[-]
Posts: 8987 (06/27/09 8:55 AM) WRP Official Spokesperson Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I remember when I saw You Rock My World music video, the original video version is thirteen minutes full. This video was a poor average. Chris Tucker, Marlon Brando and Michael Madsen featured in that video where Michael started a tragedy when a lampstand began to fell into a bottles of beer and spreaded into counter.
Trixie Delight		#1797	[-]
Posts: 27183 (06/27/09 9:07 AM) put Angel in the corner Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite
McWolcott		#1798	[-]
Posts: 11650 (06/27/09 9:08 AM) The Real American Psycho Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I would imagine at some point there will be DNA tests on those kids to find out who the real father was, whether it be Michael or not. (I'm guessing not) There is going to be a huge fight over custody, so the truth is going to come out. He wanted their nanny to have custody.
Angela in WI		#1799	[-]
Posts: 26279 (06/27/09 9:19 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	what really concerns me more than anything for those kids is the estate. lawyers are now saying that it will take years to untangle the mess that he left. those kids could well be into their late twenties before they see anything from his money.
Shutterbug78		#1800	[-]
Posts: 2389 (06/27/09 9:22 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Where the fuck were all these celebs that "loved Michael with all my soul" and all that other bullshit during the numerous child molestation accusations? They wouldn't touch him with a ten foot pole back then, but now, they're all devastated? The way they're all handling this is disgusting. He was a fucking child molester. Yes, he had a fucked up childhood that made him into the predator that he became. That's sad, because it means there were numerous childhoods that were ruined. But for the love of all that is holy, he was a predator.

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