Harper's Island--Decent Summer Slasher

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GoHomeAndEatYoRice		#4141	[-]
Posts: 883 (06/21/09 7:26 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	This was made after Canada aired it, so it already had the state troopers on there.
Fever		#4142	[-]
Posts: 7 (06/21/09 7:30 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	harperfan007 wrote: i have been a fan since day 1 and henrys and abbies relationship have always been wierd more of like a BROTHER/SISTER relationship?!?!? at the end of the episode the sherriff said "abbie your my daughter" then died so that made me think back to the wakefield diary when it said he had a affair with abbies mom and had a child...Abbie?...NOT!!! you never hear of henrys family or saw them and he never mentioned them, well this is what i think. abbies mom and the sheriff had abbie, then abbies mom and wakefield had a affair and had a child HENRY!!! they are the same age and he always is worried about her. if this is right he i think is off the killers list. Hey, welcome in. Yes, a few of us has previously come up with this siblings theory. (Actually, since the third or fourth episode, people were already noticing the odd nature of the Henry-Abby relationship. Colleenlover did, I think.) But I for one think of the events in reverse from the order in which you have them: Abby's mom had Henry first, outside of the island, and then, after meeting the sheriff in the island, she had Abby. This theory is one of the reasons why I was asking yesterday about an old conversation between the Sheriff and Henry - a conversation in which there was an allusion to Henry's parents. It's not clear (not to me, at least) why Henry (& his parents) used to vacation on the island. Was it merely for pleasure? ... If Henry's birthmother was living there, that could be a good reason to come visit.
wrsrules		#4143	[-]
Posts: 1288 (06/21/09 7:31 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Anyone notice when Sherrif was talking to Abby in the hotel room his hands were tied, not his neck, but once he was pulled out the window he had a noose around his neck??? WTF?
Fever		#4144	[-]
Posts: 8 (06/21/09 7:46 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	enjoyresponsbly wrote: Fever wrote: can anyone talk about Henry's and JD's parents? I think I read that they were teachers and that they died in a car accident. (Accident? Yeah right.) [...] And is Henry supposed to be the adopted one, or is it JD? I didn't completely hear that conversation that Henry had about this with the sheriff. About that conversation - there was "pregnant silence" and a "meaningful look" exchanged at some point, right after Henry or the sheriff said something about Henry's parents. I read it as, "there is something painful that we both know about, and that for the well-being of either one or both of us, must not be verbally expressed." .... When did all this happen? That conversation happened 3 or 4 episodes ago ... when Henry and the sheriff went out together to look for Henry's fugitive brother. As I said above, I did not hear the conversation well. I think that Henry talked about he or his brother being adopted, about JD's alleged mental and substance problems, about a suicide attempt by JD and a girlfriend (in which only the girlfriend died and Henry found her body), about uncle Marty having to take care of JD and/or having him committed to a sanatorium ... In the conversation, the parents were just alluded to -- nothing specific about them was said. I wish I had taped the episode. My memory is that Henry and the sheriff exchanged that knowing look after something pertaining to the parents was said. The other stuff that I mentioned above (parents being teachers, dying in car accident) was not part of the conversation. I think it comes from Harper's Globe and that it was told here, maybe by Coachocd. But I'm not sure that I'm remembering those details correctly.
pinoyako		#4145	[-]
Posts: 8843 (06/21/09 7:53 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The Heartbreak Yid wrote: The Heartbreak Yid wrote: novaya wrote: iismepeter wrote: I'm starting to think we're WAYYY overthinking this. I'm suspecting a dumbass ending. If you believe in the POWAR of WikiVandalism, someone pwnt the Harper's Island death toll page all the way to the finale (who dies/lives/is the killer). I think it sounds about right, but whatever. POTENTIAL SPOILERS: http://en.wikipedia.org/w...land&oldid=297463714 Seems to make sense. So did this hold up? Was there a skate guard girl and skate guard guy? If so, I wouldnt be surprised if the whole thing is right. Lets face it, this show hasnt been particularly successful, and there are no plans for a second season, so I cant imagine them planting fake spoilers. Spoiler [+] Poor Trish
tullfan2		#4146	[-]
Posts: 3507 (06/21/09 8:17 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Does anyone think that it is really unlikely that the sniper and the person who strung up Maggie are the same person (which would be Wakefield)? Everyone was shot at before they managed to get inside the Cannery. After Nikki arrived, Maggie foolishly left and later was found dead and no gun shot was heard by anyone. Afterwards a sniper shot Cal as he and Sully were leaving. After Sully/Cal managed to get away, the sheriff's truck showed up with Jimmy on the trunk. The question is why would the sniper leave his post to kill Maggie when someone could have escaped from The Cannery while he was preoccupied with killing Maggie? I know that Nikki wasn't shot at when she arrived but she may have been spared because she wasn't trying to leave the Island. Judging from how the hands look, the sniper is probably Wakefield. Neither Henry, nor Jimmy, nor any other suspect could have killed Maggie since everyone has an alibi. So unless Wakefield killed Maggie and is also the sniper, which seems unlikely to me, there has to be a second killer who's identity is hidden from the audience.
novaya		#4147	[-]
Posts: 802 (06/21/09 8:25 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	mundo446 wrote: I'm I the only one praying that Shea dies? She is such an annoying, selfish bitch. I don't blame Richard for cheating on her. Word. Especially not for cheating on her with MILF extraordinaire Katherine. KatherineGoddess should have lived.
Que		#4148	[-]
Posts: 1416 (06/21/09 8:53 AM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Fever wrote: enjoyresponsbly wrote: Fever wrote: can anyone talk about Henry's and JD's parents? I think I read that they were teachers and that they died in a car accident. (Accident? Yeah right.) [...] And is Henry supposed to be the adopted one, or is it JD? I didn't completely hear that conversation that Henry had about this with the sheriff. About that conversation - there was "pregnant silence" and a "meaningful look" exchanged at some point, right after Henry or the sheriff said something about Henry's parents. I read it as, "there is something painful that we both know about, and that for the well-being of either one or both of us, must not be verbally expressed." .... When did all this happen? That conversation happened 3 or 4 episodes ago ... when Henry and the sheriff went out together to look for Henry's fugitive brother. As I said above, I did not hear the conversation well. I think that Henry talked about he or his brother being adopted, about JD's alleged mental and substance problems, about a suicide attempt by JD and a girlfriend (in which only the girlfriend died and Henry found her body), about uncle Marty having to take care of JD and/or having him committed to a sanatorium ... In the conversation, the parents were just alluded to -- nothing specific about them was said. I wish I had taped the episode. My memory is that Henry and the sheriff exchanged that knowing look after something pertaining to the parents was said. The other stuff that I mentioned above (parents being teachers, dying in car accident) was not part of the conversation. I think it comes from Harper's Globe and that it was told here, maybe by Coachocd. But I'm not sure that I'm remembering those details correctly. I don't remember anything about either one of them being adopted. Henry and JD's Dad was still alive AFTER the original Wakefield killings. Cole Harkein told the Sheriff that JD and his DAD would visit him in the hospital and that's how he got to know JD. Henry in the covo with the sheriff when talking about JD's problems said it was Uncle Marty to took him in. But it was never stated that the parents died. Henry/Trish were in College when the original Wakefield murders took place. (It's in the flashback episode when she is talking to Jimmy) I think JD is Abby and Nikis age (still in HS (17-18) when the original murders take place. Jimmy appears to be older..not in school etc... Henry and JD used to work summers on the Island. But Henry crossed over from the "workers to the vacation crowd"...Trish. He was refered to by shane? as athe "hired hand"? Shane and Jimmy are locals like Abby and Nikki. Trish's family had a vacation house on the Island BUT...then Abby has pictures of Henry and Trish as kids together...so maybe Henrys Dad or Mom worked for the Wellingtons and that how Tehy knew each other as little kids. NOTHING has been mentioned about Henrys MOM.
loveski		#4149	[-]
Posts: 1858 (06/21/09 8:53 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	This is what I got from the preview: - the wedding guests have several struggles with Wakefield including the Cannery at night and on a bridge in the morning (Cal is looking much healthier btw) - Wakefield dies in the middle of the episode - people start wondering whether he did it alone - someone dies unexpectedly three quarters the way in - Shea 'finds' incriminating documents concerning Jimmy in the Sheriff's attic - the red herring spotlight which was on the Sheriff, then Wakefield is now on Jimmy who will be suspected at the end of this episode and killed the following episode, moving the red herring onto someone else does anyone have a different take? I haven't watched the preview since it aired but I agree with this. Poor Jimmy - he has to die. All the people suspected by the characters have so far...including the Sheriff. I pretty much like/am indifferent to everybody left, except Madison and Shea. Why can't those two be suspected?
christy1018		#4150	[-]
Posts: 2685 (06/21/09 9:01 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Que wrote: Henry/Trish were in College when the original Wakefield murders took place. (It's in the flashback episode when she is talking to Jimmy) I think JD is Abby and Nikis age (still in HS (17-18) when the original murders take place. Jimmy appears to be older..not in school etc... Henry was at the Marina when the original Wakefield murders happened. He was standing right beside Cole when he was on fire. He was wearing a baseball cap but he was there.
McWolcott		#4151	[-]
Posts: 11590 (06/21/09 9:25 AM) The Real American Psycho Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	wrsrules wrote: Anyone notice when Sherrif was talking to Abby in the hotel room his hands were tied, not his neck, but once he was pulled out the window he had a noose around his neck??? WTF? He had some kind of wire around his neck.
cookie		#4152	[-]
Posts: 3 (06/21/09 9:35 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	in the preview (I didn't record it, I downloaded the link a few days ago instead) wasn't Danny shown over a body bag saying something like "one man did all this?" Isn't it possible the man in the body bag/covered is the newly dead Wakefield? And it is the epilogue to the horror. The remaining survivors stay in the Canary; Abby flees from Wakefield into the maze (Thanks, Shining); Abby has eluded him enough, hyperventalating but spies him waking away with a new shotgun and whatever, she gasps in horror to where he's going and regains her senses. She must warn her friends at the canary. At the canary, they're desperate since Cal and Sully haven't returned. Trish or Shane deduce no one is coming, Chloe sobs for Cal; Trish boldly says they can leave now since Abby is with the sheriff at the Candlewick, and make a run for the other side of the island; Henry (always Henry) can't believe how insensitive they are for Abby. Jimmy comes to and can't remember (but oooooh, lots of suspicion); Shane leads the charge to make a run for it. They open the door and Shane comes face to face with Wakefield ("Wah, wah, John Wakefield killed my mommy. boo hoo") Writer's irony that now Wakefield kills Shane. (thought he would be garroted, but who knows). A full on fight with Wakefield and everyone else -OMG, this guy is strong! Look out, UTR Nicki!!! What? Where did Wakefield go? Two new bodies, the Canary is about to go up in flames, and Abby got there too late. Don't worry we can move on to the chapel. Henry soothes Abby, who's gone all Ripley on us, "I'm going to kill John Wakefield!" Henry (always Henry) "if we can only make it to the other side of the island to Cal and Chloe's conveniently placed boat..." Shea, Madison, Trish and Danny, you guys stay here and look after Jimmy (can't let anything happen to him) Abby, lock and load -you can try but you're not getting an emmy nod for this stuff, but nice try. Sully great job in saving Cal -who's all, "thanks, mate!" Handshake and redemption in that B plot. Chloe leads the way to a big giant bridge (oh yeah, Henry mentions, forgot that detail). Oh shit, someone's coming... fakeout, it's just Cal and Sully. "Cal, I love you." "Chloe, darling, if only the show were smarter since we're the only two with an ounce of chemistry on this show... but please step aside for some more routine Henry and Abby exposition." Madison creepy stuff. Hey, where's Jimmy? Why he's gone to save Abby with the right amount of red herring killer strings. Cross the bridge. Wakefield stuff. Watch out, newly reformed Sully... noooooo! Watch out, Cal. Nah, you've been beaten, shot, humiliated, you're the constant red herring death, you're teflon safe. Showdown with Abby and Wakefield, but.....BAM! Henry saves the day and kills Wakefield! Henry is our hero and the carnage can finally stop. Funny that Wakefield looked baffled when Henry got the drop on him. Whatever could it mean? Abby didn't get her moment. That's weird. But whatever. Hmmm, still need a death for the aftermath though. Maybe Shane dies after the fact. Still think Chloe gets it in glorious horror movie chase/suspense scene, but doesn't really die... only enough for the audience and Cal to be heartbroken.
wrsrules		#4153	[-]
Posts: 1289 (06/21/09 9:42 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	McWolcott wrote: wrsrules wrote: Anyone notice when Sherrif was talking to Abby in the hotel room his hands were tied, not his neck, but once he was pulled out the window he had a noose around his neck??? WTF? He had some kind of wire around his neck. I don't think so I rewound to check and his neck looks bare while talking to Abby but outside he has a full rope noose around his neck. Probably just poor editing, I noticed a few episodes ago Abby's hair was all messed up and her bangs were frizzy then all the sudden the we neat in the very next scene, I think the tunnels when she got madison. I am gonna chalk it up to poor editing and not a weird clue.
Drew B		#4154	[-]
Posts: 5755 (06/21/09 9:50 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I assume the noose was loose and hanging down beneath the collar of his shirt.
The Purple Parrot		#4155	[-]
Posts: 10529 (06/21/09 10:00 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	They didn't show you the rope around the sheriff's neck because the show wanted the viewer to be surprised when he was pulled through the windows. The rope on his left hand was tied behind his back to his right hand so that he couldn't separate them/lift them over his head. As for "Splash", I'm gonna venture a guess and say that Wakefield is the one that gets tossed over the bridge.
Survivor Boy		#4156	[-]
Posts: 6649 (06/21/09 10:02 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well turns out Kelly really wasn't crazy and JD really did see Wakefield outside the church.
bumlets1		#4157	[-]
Posts: 1432 (06/21/09 10:10 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well, that sucks. I said it was Maggie from the beginning. :-( Ih wekk, I guess tha means it's Nikki.
Survivor Boy		#4158	[-]
Posts: 6650 (06/21/09 10:24 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Who did each killing? Cousin Ben - Henry Uncle Marty - Wakefield Lucy - Wakefield Rev - Wakefield Hunter - Wakefield Mr. Wellington - Henry Booth - Booth Fatass- Henry Richard - Henry/Wakefield ties him to tree Kelly - Wakefield JD - Henry Guard at prison - Wakefield Harkin - Wakefield Beth- Wakefield Mrs. Wellington - Henry Boat Explosion - Wakefield Two Sheriffs - Wakefield Maggie - Wakefield The Sheriff - Wakefield So basically Wakefield killed everyone
Piranhahaha		#4159	[-]
Posts: 12478 (06/21/09 10:26 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I had always thought Maggie was involved somehow, too. I'm kind of pissed that Wakefield is still alive. I thought this show was going to be an Agatha Christie murder mystery, not Friday the 13th pt. II with the dead killer reappearing. Yeah I know there's likely an accomplice, but still. What was a murder mystery is now an adventure show.
travelinfool		#4160	[-]
Posts: 9 (06/21/09 10:34 AM) I don't get most of the jokes Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If the killings are "all about Abby" and the killer wants Abby, why didn't Wakefield just kill her right there after she sees her dad hanged? Instead he says "you look just like your mother". If Abby is not Wakefield's child, why is it "all about her"? Did Wakefield do the killings in the Sea-Tac area that the Sheriff was following? If he didn't, then the killer is either Henry or maybe Cal. Who sent Abby the phone message with Ave Maria and the text message to Henry from Uncle Marty? That doesn't sound like something Wakefield would do. As someone pointed out, he doesn't look too tech savvy.

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