dennydoylelives wrote:
Oowatanite wrote:
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These two parts.
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Those should make the rating CPPP.
Or CPDD.
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dennydoylelives wrote: Or CPDD. |
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The ratings for early bootees like Carolina and Candace are always tough, when you only have one or two episodes to judge them. Misty's CP in EI and
Courtney's MOR in EI should have been switched, but Misty did have two of her three episodes as CP.
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It isn't so much of being negative "like Ben," or like a particular contestant, but rather the intent of the editors. Tyson's overall edit
was one of arrogance mixed with a dollop of cruelty.
To get an M you need a mixed-message edit, in which there is both plenty of Negativity in a player as well as a bunch of corresponding positive scenes. There were tons of N scenes for Tyson, but darned if I can't thing of even a few that I could consider positive, and certainly not enough to offset his huge N-ness. Yeah, there were his naked scenes early on, but even those were tempered with his explanation of why he did it. And when other players laugh but put their hands over their mouths, that indicates great discomfort (it's an almost universal human reaction to shock and discomfort). That was the reaction Tyson's naked scenes engendered. This all might harken back to the actual meaning of the "overall edgic rating" for a player (which, incidentally, has nothing to do with edgic). To me, it would indicate the ultimate intent of the editors. This doesn't mean a scorecard or tally sheet of P, N, OTT, CP etc. scenes in every episode. Instead, it's to give the viewer the gut-level, post-finale reaction to their memory of the player over the whole season. Just ask the average viewer: So, what did you think of [player's name]? Tyson was, in some ways, as N as Ben, and one of the most negative players in Survivor history. |
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ncassaro wrote:Carolina only appeared in 1 episode. Her final rating for that episode was CPM therefore, she is CPM. (see page 1 for the chart) eta: and what chapera rocks said.... (i should have finished reading).
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LKMOSCAR wrote: N is N, whether you're -.46 or -.879. And where is the P to bring him back up to an M? You can't just compare Tyson to just Coach who's super N where Tyson looks almost neutral by comparison. You have to compare him to everyone. I'm sure there's people who were less N than Tyson you gave N overall to. |
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cantthinkofaname |
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Oowatanite wrote: Ah, ya beat me to it. |
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LKMOSCAR |
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cantthinkofaname wrote:I have almost always thought that Tyson was M. |
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cindidindi76 |
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I'm sorry, you're not allowed to have your own opinion.
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getting real |
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I have almost always thought that Tyson was M. It's OK; he qualified it, he said almost. It's not like he had always thought what he thought. |
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Mypoody2 |
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Who gives a fuck, the season is over.
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craig |
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Who gives a fuck, the season is over.Which is always the most interesting time to discuss a season. Would you spend hours discussing a book chapter by chapter, only to lose all interest when you finally got to the end? |
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oh ehm gee |
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craig wrote: If the book's ending sucked, then yes - I'd much rather wait for the next installment in the series. |
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tropical rain |
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Great job edgic, sorry I couldn't follow along this season.
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Mypoody2 |
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craig wrote:That analogy fails. Typically when you get to the ending of the book you want to move on to another book, it's over-done. |
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fat little fingers |
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Which is always the most interesting time to discuss a season. Yeah, except overall rating is more I Heart Survivor than Edgic. A more interesting discussion for me is how this season's game might help the next. Especially since we seemed to home in on the F-2 early, but read the signals as a Stephen win rather than JT. (Okay, okay, except for those who picked JT....lol) |
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cantthinkofaname |
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So when's the deadline for voting for the finale?
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AndreSurvivor |
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Mypoody2 wrote:Not in English Lit. You beat them to death. |
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getting real |
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A more interesting discussion for me is how this season's game might help the next. Easy! We just need to note the new direction taken by the editing team: Give the runner-up the more meaningful edit and eschew all efforts to insert irony into the story. |
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kishuu |
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Carolina - CPM
Candace - OTTN Jerry - UTR Sandy - OTT Spencer - UTR Sydney - UTR Joe - MOR Brendan - MORP Tyson - OTTN Sierra - MORM (the poster child for M from now on) Debbie - MORP Coach - OTTN Taj - OTTP Erinn - CP Stephen - CPP JT - OTTP all you long time edgicers can bash this newbie's rankings if you want. =o |
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