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Castaway interviews: Coach is up |
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LKMOSCAR |
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^That shit was frustrating. Anyway, this was interesting:
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ColonelBird |
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J.T. cleans up at final tribal council, and at the reunion everyone wishes they voted for Stephen?
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rower |
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I would agree that JT is the one seen as being in charge. Somethimes it is not a good thing to stay too far in the background. Even if Stephen is in final
two with JT, I can't see anyone on the jury giving Stephen much credit for the strategy. Truth be told, Stephen couldn't have worked "his"
strategy if JT wasn't such a social, likable person. JT made the "connections" with the other survivors, Stephen figured out how to
"play" them. (Although I did note that Stephen/JT seemed to have a democracy and would discuss different options before reaching a consensus.)
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Cammie |
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ColonelBird wrote:Sounds like it. Even though Yul beat Ozzy, Yul was seen as the "mastermind". If Stephen wasn't seen as the "mastermind" till the show aired, I can see how JT easily defeats him in a vote, with this jury. I guess we'll see next Sunday. |
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hagiz1 |
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This couldn't be good for Stephen.
I guess JT got Debbie's vote |
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xfactor99 |
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RNO: What made you decide to turn on Coach this week, in particular, when it seemed like the two of you were a lock to get into the final
four together with J.T. and Stephen?
Debbie: As a matter of fact, that will come to light hopefully in episodes coming up. I wasn't angry but I was like, man, there would have been a lot of other things they could have done to blindside me other than to make me go against my alliance. Coach was getting on my nerves, but we had none of the basic needs and, at 33 days, tempers were short. I looked like one of those dried up apples, we were all were mentally exhausted, and we were all on each other's nerves. Coach was driving me nuts but so were a lot of people. It looks like I tried to take him out and that absolutely was not the case. |
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urrout |
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xfactor99 wrote:Wonder if Taj and Erinn had something to do with Debbie turning on coach so they would have the majority at F5. Sierra said she was surprised with Stephen's game too so either JT was given to much credit at the time and now that they have seen the show or the jury is playing to blindside JT and Stephen. |
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craig |
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knew when Tyson was voted out, my days were limited. I liked J.T. and Stephen a lot, but I didn't show Stephen enough respect. If you notice last night, Stephen said, "I don't think we need to get rid of Debbie yet." With Erinn, we knew if we took her to the merge, she would jump ship. All Erinn had to do was hear Stephen say one thing about me and she was like, "Take her out, so that didn't surprise me.Meaning - she thinks she could have stayed if she'd worked Stephen, the real mastermind, more. Stephen controls Erinn. Debbie hasn't made up with Erinn as she has with Sierra. Sounds like Erinn is F2.. RNO: If they had gone along with you and voted him out, would you have followed through on your promise to give away immunity at the final three? Meaning - JT wishes he'd took the deal, because he got booted before F2. |
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ColonelBird |
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I am very curious about Erinn's vote for Stephen, and how they showed it again in the very beginning of this last episode. Possible that Stephen has
approached Erinn and told her he will take her into the finals over JT, and the editors are not showing us this so that it can look like a complete blindside
move?
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craig wrote:Nothwithstanding the fact that Erinn OR Taj OR JT OR Stephen could be final two, you can't say based on the interview that Erinn is final two because it doesn't sound like they made up. Sierra still came down a bit on Debbie and we know the two of them are together and Debbie had said they have a "family" type relationship now. This game is so fickle and the people in it are truly fickle. If the lie is in favor of them, then it doesn't really matter. But if the lie is not in favor of them, then it does matter. It's so weird. A perfect example is me being on Brendan's side and lying and saying "I'm not in an alliance with Brendan" or whatever, and them finding us out and me telling Debbie "Look, we're all in alliances. How could you be mad at me for being in an alliance?" it's ridiculous. How could you say, "You're going to go because you were doing this behind our back!" We're all doing it to each other! Hello! So it's like, ooh, shocker! It's really weird how people break it down in their minds, what they justify and what they don't. It is interesting though how Sierra and Erinn were both edited because we heard stuff about Sierra that she was a pain in the ass. We now have Debbie commenting on Erinn. Sierra apparently had choice words to say about Erinn; maybe Erinn (like Sierra was shown) wasn't as adorable as they are showing
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The thing with an Erinn/Stephen F2 is if Stephen was against her then I would think he would make it more known in his final jury statements about how responsible he was for various plans. He would no longer be in JT's shadow. I guess he could try and they wouldn't believe him, or he could completely fail at the jury questioning. |
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craig wrote: They prolly should have been nicer to her before merge. ^.^ |
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shoeless rye |
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Nobody liked Erinn from Timbira, and she's being used by Jalapao - basically she's happy just outlasting Timbira folks, sticking it to them and then
will take fourth place.
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Trixiego |
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James Barber wrote: I agree James. The way that both Sierra and Debbie spoke in their interviews it is clear that they were shocked by the level of game playing Stephen did and didn't give him enough credit. For me this just seems a bit strange to say if he is sitting there with anyone but JT. I would suspect that Debbie and Sierra would sound less "shocked" at his game play if in final two with someone else However, if Erinn was in the final two with a Jala, it is funny that this could also be the anti Gabon. Clearly, this jury does not hold grudges and if a former Jala is in final two with a former Timber with a jury full of former Timbers, I see the jury giving it to the former Jala as opposed to the former Timber. Instead of a bunch of bitter onions, they got themselves the opposite this season shrug I'm still going with that T/JT/S are the final three right now; at least I'd like to see that. Timbira was demolished and these three have been shown working together for a long time. That trio and how they worked (obviously the heavies were JT/Stephen moreso than Taj but she worked well with them) to essentially squash the majority of Tim's was a good story to me. I still am nagged by Taj's line that she wouldn't want either of them to go out prematurely though and wonder if something still happens with the HII - that is my only nagging doubt that the three don't get there intact. |
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But yeah, she was super annoying and she thought because she watched the game more than any of us did, that she knew everything and then we would take her out to a challenge and couldn't even really do anything but puzzlesSo Erinn is something of a Survivor fan. That's a likely basis for her bonding with super-fan Stephen (but not with Taco stand recruit girl). |
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SwineForkbeard |
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If Stephen ends up blindsiding J. T., why would they come away with the impression that he was J. T.'s follower? I remember Tyson and Sierra saying the
same thing.
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craig |
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Just because someone is booted, doesn't mean jurors don't think they were the real leader or most deserving.
Cirie and Yau-man had their supporters on the jury, as did Kathy and Rob C. Maybe Debbie and Coach give some speech about how they wished they could vote for JT, but in hindsight now respect Stephen's game more. |
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SJHalle |
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Since when are Stephen and Erinn "super-fans". Stephen was recruited.
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craig wrote: So being a Survivor fan makes her better? Apparently Erinn is far more annoying than they were willing to show. Sierra, Tyson and Debbie all spoke negatively of her. Its clear that the Jala 3 really don't care, shes just a vote on their side. And I hate it when people throw Super fan around casually. I'm not even a super fan. |
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Emcee Batley |
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SJHalle wrote: Stephen AND Erinn were recruited. They are hardly super-fans. |
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