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phantomkp wrote:

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bannedchef wrote:

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Ok, I understand the whole "linear time" concept and that the 1970's Losties are no longer seeing time as linear, but rather in a fragmented fashion (birth->2004-1974-1975-1976-1977).

My point is, what happens if the Losties do NOT jump forward? If Jack was born in 1970, wouldn't there now be TWO "jacks"? Is it really possible for someone to exist in two seperate places at the same time? Is that not some sort of paradox?

Well, there is no real paradox in "Lost's" version of time travel. Thats what makes it more interesting than most time travel stories!

Two people can occupy the same space with different versions of themselves. Remember, we saw Locke flash back 3 months or so, to the time he was kneeling at the hatch window wailing to the island and the flash of light turning on....we saw present Locke realizing his previous self was over there, and choosing not to go there. But the fact is, they were both there, maybe 200 yards from each other at different versions of themself.

So these 1977 losties could very well remain on the island for 25 years, getting older, and eventually being on the island when thier younger selves crash on it in 2004. It could happen. But i personally think these guys are gonna jump in time again eventually before that does.

The reason i say there is no "real" paradox problems in "Lost", is cause there is a mechanism in place (explained by Miles and Faraday and Eloise) to prevent people from changing things that had happened, or changing things that will happen in the future. Its a self contained system. So there can be no paradox of Locke being 200 yards from himself with two different versions of himself...because fate/destiny will make sure Locke never meets his younger self, cause it never happened in the first place. If Locke had got it into his head to suddenly go talk to his 3 month younger self (which we know never happened cause Locke never met his older self!), fate/destiny would have done something to stop it from happening. Like, taking away Locke's ability to walk. Weve seen the island do it before.

Thats not to say a person cant go back in time on Lost and talk to his/her younger self...we just know Locke cant, cause he had no memory of meeting his older self, which means it never happened. Nothing can happen that wasnt supposed to happen...thats the conceit of the shows use of time travel (as well as visions of the future, and what is supposed to happen, ala Desmond)

I'm not sure yet if the show will say that you cannot meet yourself, but ultimately, I think our Losties will all die and the ending will be all of them taking the Oceanic flight again.. Either our Losties will sacrifice themselves (for a worthy cause) because they know that they will be existing somewhere at some other time, or if there is such a rule that the same person cannot meet, then our Losties may even consider killing themselves.

Sun is the only living member of the Oceanic 6 in the Ajira flight who was not transported to the 70s. Why is that? A theory is that she is Chang's daughter, the baby that we saw born in the first episode of Season 5. I think that she was transported to the 70s because the Island prevented her from meeting her past self. So, it is really possible that there is such a rule.

About Locke, the wheel was malfunctioning at that time, so I'm not sure if this is conclusive proof that there is no such rule.

The writers probably thought of killing off Charlottetoo because in the next time jump (after the wheel has been fixed), they would be going to the 70s where the young Charlotte is there. When Sun did not jump to the 70s, the wheel was not malfunctioning anymore too.