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Posts: 37986 (12/12/08 2:10 PM) I'm an ugly Yeti King |
timquan wrote: An there in lies the problem. If I were to be on the jury, Sugar's actions at the F6 TC would have won her my vote. However I wish people will be more open about their strategy at TC. TC is where you are accountable for your actions, and it gives the jury a hint on what you are doing to play the game. The conversation between Bob and Sugar should have been revealed. I wish players will get this. |
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Posts: 1 (12/12/08 2:15 PM) |
Bob made not one, but TWO fake idols and completely fooled people who "know how to play the game". He came back from the
WORST ALLIANCE EVER and has stayed in the game for the single fact that he (at 57 years old) kicked major (including OLYMPIC ATHLETE) ass during that last 4
immunity challenges. Normally that would be a terrible strategy, but he knows it is the only way he stays in the game. Bob is playing a game, folks.
It's just not as punk-ass as Kenny's or as tearful as Sugar's. I won't feel let down if he wins. Just PLEASE don't let it be Matty! I
don't think I could handle any more half-baked-new-age-philosophy speak from him.
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Xocoyotzin Sanders |
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Posts: 531 (12/12/08 3:02 PM) Registered user |
timquan wrote:Based on what? What has he done to earn the votes of people like Marcus, Charlie, and Corinne? Please explain. |
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Posts: 350 (12/12/08 3:03 PM) |
Joaqenix wrote: Matty doesn't. |
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Thailandsurvivor |
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Posts: 3747 (12/12/08 3:24 PM) |
funnylookinkid wrote:X Still, Bob getting far is good for the show after almost every old guy the past few seasons has either left early, quit, or been evacuated. I'm betting on an even better and more diverse cast next season (and that's saying alot because Gabon's been great). I do think Susie winning would be the best for the show that anyone can come out on top...and edgic would freak out even more than a Bob win. |
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star jumper |
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Posts: 37998 (12/12/08 3:27 PM) I'm an ugly Yeti King |
Thailandsurvivor wrote: I knew you were all kinds of stupid, but this just lets everyone else know. |
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WTFscissoring8 |
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Posts: 225 (12/12/08 3:33 PM) |
Thailandsurvivor wrote:are you susie? |
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Posts: 73 (12/12/08 3:42 PM) |
Xocoyotzin Sanders wrote:It's not about what he has done, its about what the others did to the onions, with a Bitter jury ussually the most undeserving player in the final 3/2 wins, Vecepia, Amber, Danni... |
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Thailandsurvivor |
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Posts: 3748 (12/12/08 4:04 PM) |
star jumper wrote:Reading the entire post might be a good idea. Edgic's boner for Marcus is enough for me to want a Susie win. After Ken, of course. |
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Xocoyotzin Sanders |
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Posts: 532 (12/12/08 4:26 PM) Registered user |
Delusional wrote: What exactly has Sugar done to Marcus and Charlie? It was Kenny, Crystal and Susie that screwed them over. Hell, Sugar wasn't even really the one that screwed Corinne over, that was Kenny and Crystal. Yes, Sugar voted her out, but she also didn't make a deal with her, either. I think the bitter jury theory is a bit farfetched. Two jurors (Randy and Corinne) doesn't not a jury make. I think you don't give Marcus and Charlie enough credit. |
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Boo Radley 2001 |
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Posts: 1609 (12/12/08 4:51 PM) Registered User |
Actually, I'm betting that Sugar wins the audience vote. Her move this episode improved her in the onions' eyes too. That should put her ahead of Susie, and a good final Tribal Councel could help her beat Kenny-- He lost his game the last two episodes, and maybe Matty. |
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timquan |
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Posts: 40 (12/12/08 5:06 PM) |
Xocoyotzin Sanders wrote:It's not always about "earning." Jury members cast their vote for a variety of reasons: respect, spite, impulse, loyalty, love,...least bitter pill? And if it is "earned," everyone's criteria is different. Some seem to honor something they think is integrity. Other's award hard work, or good strategy. For instance, some will never cast a vote for someone who blindsided them, while others will see that as an excellent move and give credit for precisely that. Based on my gauging of the 3 you mentioned plus Randy, Corinne and Randy, at least, are not going to cast any vote for someone based on "game strategy." It's personal with them, and they won't vote for Kenny, Susie or Sugar unless those are the only choices. But if Matty's in the mix, then they'll give it to Matty since that appears to be who they're rooting for, at this point anyway. And I think Marcus goes along with that too, even though he's less vindictive by all appearances. Charlie could be a bit more thoughtful, and when no longer having to worry about his standing in the 4-some, he could strike out independently and cast his vote differently. I don't know. But that's at least 3 for Matty in any group not including Bob (barring some development in the final segment in which Matty alienates himself from Corinne, Randy or Marcus). If it's Matty, Sugar and Susie, then the other 3 voters are Bob, Kenny and Crystal, and they won't matter because I think Charlie casts the deciding vote for Matty If it's Matty, Kenny and Sugar, then the other 3 voters are Bob, Susie and Crystal and right now I think at least one of them or Charlie casts the deciding vote for Matty If it's Matty, Kenny and Susie, then the other 3 voters are Bob, Sugar and Crystal, and I think Sugar would cast her vote for Matty, making a majority for Matty. That's just my guess. You're mileage may differ. |
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Posts: 1 (12/12/08 5:51 PM) |
As an "older" fan, I think Bob has been one of the most interesting players in a long time.
Old, yes, but not weak. Did you see his guns last night? Who else can you remember "flying under the radar" while winning so many challenges? How can the other players think Matty is a threat when Bob has beat his a$$ time after time? Bob won both challenges. First, by taking the time to actually learn the face of the puzzle in the reward challenge, and then not be getting back first with his balls, but by actually hitting the basket. Plus, he has absolutely the best use of the buff ever on Survivor, using it as a bowtie, and one with "Survivor" showing across the bow. I also like the shirt and slacks of his costume. Looks and acts exactly like a teacher, creating not one but two fake immunity idols that looked almost as good as the real one. Finally, everyone else knew Sugar had the HII, and Bob still got where he is through subterfuge. I laughed my a$$ off when he said Kenny wasn't in danger, so he wasn't getting the immunity necklace. Then when Sugar gave Matty the HII, one of the best moments in Survivor history when that little punk Kenny, who thought he was in charge the whole time, woke up to the fact that he's not the master gamer he thought he was. Sweet! Bob, Sugar, Matty at Final 3. |
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Posts: 38 (12/12/08 5:56 PM) |
Concentration Camp Bob has done a good job of flying under the radar yes. He has been getting too much heat to not win this whole thing. He is the only one out
there with a brain and know how to play this game. He is also the best at challenges - the mot exciting part of the game. He looks like the best of the bunch
in every way...
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Sabina Sperber |
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Posts: 1024 (12/12/08 6:16 PM) Registered User |
Dude that'd be such a buzzkill if matty didn't win, dude
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Posts: 22 (12/12/08 6:17 PM) |
Generally agree My thoughts differ slightly:
If final 3 = Matty, Kenny, Susie: Onions + Bob hand win to Matty. If Matty had a hand in putting Sugar on jury she may vote Susie. Cry-stal
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Posts: 23 (12/12/08 6:43 PM) |
CrystalSuxCox wrote:
"Concentration Camp Bob has done a good job of flying under the radar yes....He is the only one out there with a brain and know how to play this game." Sugar clearly has a brain as well. That lie about voting Kenny was smooth as silk - she may be playing the dumb, emotional blonde but there is something else going on there. She has faced many forks in the road and had to choose which path would help her get furthest. Each time she made the right decision. Susie was smart enough to conduct herself in such a way when tribes were switched that Dan was voted out instead of her, even though she was much weaker at challenges. She was smart enough to figure out that staying with Marcus would get her no further than 5 and dumped him. Yes, she was stupid to tell Corinne that she was stronger than Corinne and wanted Corinne gone and yes she has stayed under the radar. But she's not ignorant. |
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Posts: 1033 (12/12/08 6:46 PM) Registered User |
I don't think the former onions would necessarily vote Matty if given a choice of voting for Kenny.
Corinne said in her final words that she's rooting for Bob and Kenny, and she obviously has alot of influence over the gays, I mean guys, at Ponderosa. |
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Ishmael |
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Posts: 24 (12/12/08 6:54 PM) |
"Corinne said in her final words that she's rooting for Bob and Kenny, and she obviously has alot of influence over the gays, I mean guys, at
Ponderosa."
Marcus has much more power over Charlie than Corrine. I don't think Corinne has power over Marcus. |
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DuckyLu |
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Posts: 184 (12/12/08 7:09 PM) |
Xocoyotzin Sanders wrote:I don't think so. I think Randy's pretty POed about the fake idol. I appreciate the "older guy win" benefit. Other benefits: May encourage more creative uses of buffs Possibly good for gorillas conservation |
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