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Mister Slippery wrote:

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HaroldBalzaccio wrote:

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That's only for special occasions. Like days of the week ending in the letter "y."



Really, though, how much of a beating do you think you could take before selling out your own family and offering your soul as collateral, oath or no oath? Everybody breaks. Some break harder than others. Some never heal.

I don't see the point in comparing any two POWs. It's classless, and demeaning to all the guys who had to endure that sort of degradation just for putting on a uniform.



Not that liberals know anything about class, based on the things I've seen posted here.

I was very lucky that I was stateside and not put in that position.
I don't know what I would have done. I cannot say that I would have done differently.
It was something I had to weigh in my conscience, and I thank God that it did not befall me to have to be tested.


But I was 17 - and I took the oath VERY seriously.
It was a serious time, and a serious war.

I don't begrudge John McCain for wanting to live.
But the reality is that others died, and others did not make public statements of support for the enemy.
No doubt that John was subjected to extreme pressure due to his fathers position in the naval command hierarchy.
But when you join as a volunteer, and let me be clear that I was also a volunteer, you have to be crystal clear that you are ready to surrender your life.
It is not a thing you do lightly.

War is ugly, and it does not discriminate. If you look at John McCains family History you will find that there were individuals who laid down their lives.
The fact of the matter is that he chose not to surrender his, and he made statements on film that gave support to the enemy.

After thinking long and hard about this, I agree with Mr. Slippery that McCain is all about McCain. We are fortunate that McCain's father was not a president during the Vietnam War. That would have been a disaster that even supprassed Tet Offensive. Also.. the article made an excellent point.. and he is the son of a former WW2 General (And McCain's father was an admiral) "For security reasons, the military will not disclose the locations in Iraq where Palin and Biden will serve. Pentagon officials and members of their units all say that the men will be treated like any other soldier or Marine. But retired Col. James Currie, a professor at the National Defense University, says that equal treatment could prove dangerous. "It simply wouldn't be fair to the other members of the unit to not give them special treatment, and in fact, get them out of there," Currie says. "Can you imagine the propaganda victory if al-Qaida or some organization over there were to injure, or kill or, heaven forbid, capture the son of a president or a vice president?" Only two American presidents have had a child fighting during wartime while they were in office. Four of Franklin Roosevelt's sons served in World War II, and Dwight Eisenhower's son John served in Korea. "My dad and I talked about it, and I told him I would not be captured," Eisenhower says. "I would do myself in before I was captured. That was the agreement between us." Although Eisenhower eventually retired as a one-star general in the Army, he now says his father's decision to leave him in combat was a mistake. "The military career of a young guy is not that important," he says. "What somebody could do to the burdens the president is carrying is just too much. It would have destroyed my military career if I had not gone to Korea, but I was not that important."" Dwight Eisenhower made it clear that he would resigned if his son is captured to avoid political downfall. With that being said, McCain is NOT a role model for captured prisoners. He sets a dangerous example to his own son. We do NOT need to provide Al Qaeda additional opportunities to make mockery of USA and hope that they will capture "princes" in their favors and declared major proganda and political victory. We don't need that. We cannot afford to have that. Who knows how McCain will reacts if that happens. Heaven forbid if we wants to see Palin in #%+#@ if this happens. I sure wouldn't.