Marque Mywords wrote:I'm all for free speech, but I think there have to be issues with someone wanting to leave the lower 48 states when you're one heartbeat away from the presidency. You're looking out for a country you no longer want to be a part of?
Re the Keating 5:
At the time, the lawyer for the Senate Ethics Committee was Robert Bennett (a Democrat). He recommended that all charges against John McCain be dropped, but the Democrats on the panel wouldn't allow it. McCain was the only Republican charged, and he had to remain part of the investigation so that it could be spun as a "bipartisan" scandal, and not a "Democrat" scandal. McCain and one of the Democrats were ultimately exonerated.
Re Alaska secession:
Americans have the right of free speech, and are permitted to debate any issue... even secession. Here in New York State, it seems that every few years Long Island starts making noise about seceding from NY State. At least the Long Islanders and the Alaskans explore the issue through the proper political process. They don't advocate violent rebellion. I imagine it's quite frustrating for Alaskans to be sitting on top of all that oil, and to be told by a few hundred pinheads in Washington what they can and can't do with the resources in their own state.
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Re today's "View":
As usual, Whoopi got 2-3 minutes to express her opinion on the debate and on Bill Ayers, uninterrupted. And predictably, as Elisabeth attempted to respond, she got about 20 seconds into her answer before Barbara/Whoopi/Sherri started piling on, and then Whoopi went to commercial. The situation there is truly hopeless. Barbara and Co. will simply allow no view to be spoken except the liberal view. Elisabeth should accept that she works in a left-wing dictatorship and that she will never be permitted to complete a sentence again. When she is granted her 10 seconds to respond, she should just say, "I disagree" and smile sweetly at them, and just collect her paycheck.
Also: Did I hear Whoopi take a little dig at Bill Gedde? Or was the "Bill" she mentioned Bill Ayers? It should be interesting if she's feeling her oats and has decided to take on the Viewmaster himself.
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The View: Makin' Whoopi!
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Marque Mywords wrote:Elizabeth had pleaty of time to get her talking points in. And it wasn't a dig at Bill Gedde. What Whoopi said was something like "she thought she talked about Bill Ayers with Elizabeth but maybe it was with Bill (as in Gedde). |
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Posts: 2074 (10/06/08 10:59 AM) Registered user |
And it wasn't a dig at Bill Gedde. What Whoopi said was something like "she thought she talked about Bill Ayers with Elizabeth but maybe it was with Bill (as in Gedde).Okay, thanks. But if you're correct and that's the gist of what Whoopi said, it still sounds like a dig to me. It's like Whoopi is saying that she confuses Elisabeth with Bill Gedde... because they think so much alike? Sure sounds like Whoopi is testing the waters... |
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Posts: 1455 (10/06/08 11:03 AM) Registered user |
Marque Mywords wrote: Hello, he tells her what to say. I don't think Elisabeth knows how to think for herself. |
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Posts: 3689 (10/06/08 11:03 AM) Registered User |
in New York State, it seems that every few years Long Island starts making noise about seceding from NY State.You realize that secession from a state as opposed to country is a huge fucking difference, right? Why was it again there was a Civil War in this country? |
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Posts: 7390 (10/06/08 11:04 AM) Registered User |
At this point in her career, I don't think Whoopi would really care about testing the waters and maybe getting in trouble.
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I am surprised they didnt talk about OJ
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Does anyone know anybody who has been to one of the View tapings? I think the breaks must be very interesting. Looked like Whoop was pretty fired up going
into break. You could almost see the steam coming out of her ears and she seemed to really be yakking as they went to commercial.
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Posts: 1397 (10/06/08 12:35 PM) Registered user |
I seriously think that Elizabeth thinks before she talks, or otherwise she would have a more coherent argument to back herself up. And she certainly
doesn't like the idea of listening to other people's POV (not like the other gals are faring any better in that department). but if Bill Geddes is
feeding her the arguments like some people are claiming then he's certainly setting her up for both failure and being ganged up on. Because I don't
think anyone, not even the audinece has the patience to want to listen to the junk coming out of her mouth.
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Posts: 7813 (10/06/08 12:49 PM) Registered User |
When lizie said that Palin came clean about things (not sure her exact words) I wish someone would have brought up troopergate
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Posts: 453 (10/06/08 12:51 PM) Registered User |
sugarrhill wrote:As a Long Islander Thank You for pointing that out and no one has brought that up in years anyway. |
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Posts: 2587 (10/06/08 12:58 PM) Registered user |
SardonicallyIrrelevant wrote: How dare you! Don't you know that McCain was a POW and a war hero?? You must really hate America to bring up a point like that!! |
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Especially after she stopped her life waiting for him, and he comes back and does that crap to her, what a horrible man.
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Posts: 3690 (10/06/08 2:32 PM) Registered User |
As a Long Islander Thank You for pointing that out and no one has brought that up in years anyway.Why limit it to Long Island? Staten Island has tried to secede from NYC numerous times, but they're not trying to leave the Union. |
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Posts: 3934 (10/06/08 3:28 PM) Registered user |
pjadedd wrote:Basically, there are two ways to effect major change to whatever the power is. One is to secede from or abolish it, and effect a new power. The other is to become part of the process and effect the change from within. A school various members of my family's kids attended had this really bad teacher. She was bad when the first set of kids went through, and was still bad 10 years later when the second set went through. The first set pulled strings to avoid having kids in her class. The second home schooled the child who should have been in her class. I thought it was a real pussy thing to do, and benefitted only their children, instead of getting involved in the school system to get the teacher removed, benefitting everyone's children. Seceding is the easy way out. Change from within is tougher, but much more worthwhile. |
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Posts: 18787 (10/07/08 12:14 AM) Registered user |
Liquidsunshine wrote: 
Fair enough. Let's move on to the propaganda films, the 5 crashed planes and the 168 dead Sailors. And can we talk about Cindy stealing drugs from a charity? Just for fun? ;) ETA: I would like to again thank Camp McCain for opening up the past as an acceptable area of attack. The Obama Camp's 15 minute documentary on the Keating Five http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IDofbll86dY has gotten well over half a million views on youtube in a little under 12 hours. That's as many Americans who saw Nick And Norah AND Nights In Rodante on their opening days combined!
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Posts: 7391 (10/07/08 9:11 AM) Registered User |
Wow, I like angry, pissy Sherri.
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Posts: 1927 (10/07/08 9:14 AM) Registered User |
There's clearly no holding back at this point. They hate Elisabeth. And it's evident. But Elisabeth is
bringing it on herself. Barbara is pushing so hard for them to get over the mud-slinging, but Elisabeth can't let
that go. Because she knows it's McCain's only hope at this point.
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Sherri's husband cheated on her, right? I think that was very insensitive of Elizabeth to say she was taking McCain's cheating personal. I was happy
to see Sherri get a little pissy too!
Telling Sherri to calm down when she was matching Elizabeth tone for tone was pretty funny. Barbara seems to be trying to steer them towards issues instead of rumors & such. Good luck with that Barb. |
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