Had michelle lasted past the first tribal, she would not have been a strong PHYSICAL player much longer. She was freezing at night which increases ones chance
of getting sick. She was also really skinny to being with which doesnt help. It would not have been very long before she was just as weak as gillian and kenny.
Survior has many dimensions to it, and I agree with the posters that have said when it comes down to it she wasnt a strong player because of her social game
etc.
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An idea to improve Survivor so that weaklings dont comprise the finals
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Posts: 1475 (09/28/08 9:40 AM) |
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Posts: 233 (09/28/08 9:43 AM) |
BobBob77 wrote: It seems thats the only way to refute my system: Lie 
Of course Michelle was strong, second up the hill, first woman up the hill, competed her ass off in the immunity challenge, and she clearly had a quick wit about her as well as she recognized and expressed her fate of being stuck on a team with a bunch of weak moronic losers, and called GC out when he quit like a bitch. What the game does, what was just proven, and what I've been saying for weeks, is introduce luck in the game. "rock paper scissors" bullshit, "schoolyard pick" bullshit, "producer pre-selected" bullshit. Every single event that occurs in the game, all the way up to the winner, is based on these bullshit initial "team selections". My system prevents that. My system would make for a more fair, more competitive, more challenging, and more entertaining game. |
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Posts: 5665 (09/28/08 9:51 AM) |
No, your system would diminish the strategic and social aspects of the game and make it all about the challenges. This is CBS, not fucking MTV. CBS still has
SOME credibility.
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Posts: 1114 (09/28/08 10:58 AM) |
I knew you would take one sentence from my post and try to prove it wrong. MICHELLE WAS NOT A STRONG PLAYER!!! How many times do I have to tell you? I know
your little brain is just thinking "She climb hill fast. She strong." but she was not strong. Face it. Oh by the way, I am still waiting for your
thoughts about Gillian.
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mtj1282 |
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Posts: 1481 (09/28/08 11:03 AM) |
Artie doesnt get it, i dont feel like getting involved in this shit but I do think its annoying that he thinks shes strong, ill repost what I said one last
time and then fuck it (in fact everyone arguing with him should say fuck it)
Had michelle lasted past the first tribal, she would not have been a strong PHYSICAL player much longer. She was freezing at night which increases ones chance of getting sick. She was also really skinny to being with which doesnt help. It would not have been very long before she was just as weak as gillian and kenny. Survior has many dimensions to it, and I agree with the posters that have said when it comes down to it she wasnt a strong player because of her social game etc.
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Posts: 5670 (09/28/08 11:05 AM) |
Yeah, all Michelle was good at was the running up the hill challenge and unsuccessfully digging for a bag of puzzle pieces. She was essentially Courtney Y.
with leg muscles. Plus the only reason she appeared to do so much better than the other women at running and climbing up the hill could've easily been
because she was the only woman other than Gillian and Susie (who were already slow and weak) that wasn't wearing a fucking dress in the middle of Africa.
The dress hurt Crystal's mobility, and it probably hurt the Kota girls as well.
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Posts: 872 (09/28/08 2:31 PM) |
Look, Artiee was right!
Susie: I voted for you, Michelle, tonight because, socially, it's hard to interact with you, and quite honest, you are stronger than I am, I mean you kicked ass at that first challenge. We'll see you soon. |
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Posts: 234 (09/28/08 9:00 PM) |
mfrimley wrote:Don't bother, these morons will find any excuse to ignore reality. More: "Bitch GC: My vote is for Michelle because that's the name I heard the most today and I was trying to vote with the rest of the group, so sorry it had to be you." Bitch Ken: Michelle, I tried really hard to save you but if I dind't vote with the group, then they wouldn't trust me at all. I'm very sorry. And last Michelle: (votes Gillian) I think you're the weakest one on the tribe, that's pretty much it, for weak ones, but you are the weakest.
Michelle ruled, and the shit game never gave her a chance, as the players confirm themselves. She could have won the whole fuckin thing were it not for "rock paper scissors" or "schoolyard pick" idiocy. |
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Posts: 1124 (09/28/08 10:08 PM) |
Yeah, I think if she had made it far or won you would have claimed she was a weakling. Anything to prove that point of yours. I wonder if you realized that
mfrimley was being sarcastic. And one more thing, you only posted two votes for Michelle. Maybe some of the other votes said something like "you are a
miserable bitch please go die".
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Kitty Pryde1 |
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Posts: 5671 (09/28/08 10:55 PM) |
Yeah Artiee. Aside from Susie, no one said they voted her out due to her being strong. They either said they were voting with the group, which is a smart
move, or that she had a piss-poor attitude and deserved to be voted out.
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Posts: 4 (09/29/08 4:00 AM) |
The actual problem with the game is that the fang tribe is stupid and have half the intelligence of Artiee. Any moron would realize their tribe is physically
weaker than the other tribe and they need to get rid of the weak instead of one of the strongest physical members. It doesn't matter how annoying or bitchy
they are because they are needed. Michelle was like Courtney who hated her tribe but Courtney made it to the final 2 and Michelle was the first voted out.
That is what screws up the game of survivor. Just simply stop putting stupid people on the show because everyone plays the game assuming that everyone else is
rational and smart and the deserving people get screwed over because the dumb people vote them out thinking that that would be the best move when it really is
a bad move for them. In fact if Artiee's system was used this season, instead of voting out the strongest of the loser group, they'll all vote out the
weakest because they're too stupid to know what's best for them. I'm not trying to defend him, I thinks he sucks and his idea sucks but if they
keep casting people that are as dumb as Jason and the producers will haver Erik, the game gets screwed. It might be funny to watch how dumb they are, but the
game is no longer fair. In this season these people are even dumber than Jason. The producers will be forced to switch things up so the fang tribe doesn't
get completely annihilated.
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Posts: 334 (09/29/08 4:55 AM) |
Your system wouldnt of prevented shit, she played a bad social game. she wouldve been in the weaker half that got sent to tribal anyway...and voted off.
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mfrimley |
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Posts: 875 (09/29/08 7:09 AM) |
Excuse me, but you do not speak for me. And it just shows how clueless you are that you say I shouldn't be taken seriously, but you still take Artiee
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Posts: 5115 (09/29/08 8:13 AM) Registered user |
The choosing of the tribes could count as a challenge Artiee, the castaways job was to be charismatic or appealing enough to get picked. Face it, you simply
want Survivor to be a sporting event. You aren't even consistent with your own philosophy. If at the merge, the MVP in pre merge competitions was booted
for not winning a challenge, you'd call foul and demand that the "equality" system should be extended past the merge.
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Posts: 496 (09/29/08 8:24 AM) |
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Make these bastards work for their money | ||
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Posts: 2326 (09/29/08 9:44 AM) Registered user |
They should just drop all the "survivors" in the South Bronx with no extra clothes, or food or money...etc.
Whoever's last one alive and conscious wins! |
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Posts: 6134 (09/29/08 9:55 AM) Registered user |
but the game is no longer fair Survivor has never been "fair." The best players will survive, consistantly if they use their heads. If you can't or aren't good at challenges, you have to excel in another aspect of the game, Cirie is a perfect example of that. Why hasn't this thread just died yet? |
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ArtieeLange |
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Posts: 235 (09/29/08 11:15 AM) |
GrenadeJumper85 wrote:Part one of my system GrenadeJumper85 wrote:Part two of my system. Of course, your little explanation doesn't work in the current system, where players routinely get voted out (Michelle) without having a chance to be good at challenges(Michelle), or other aspects of the game(Michelle), because they are viewed as threats(Michelle), ganged up on by the "team"(Michelle), a team that they were unlucky enough to get put on(Michelle), and voted off.(Michelle) Next. |
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Dr Will Hatch two point oh |
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Posts: 5116 (09/29/08 1:15 PM) Registered user |
Why should it be fair anyway? Survivor isn't a sport, nor is it testing anything. Luck as a variable is fine, as people can overcome it in many situations. Even when they can't, that is too bad for them |
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TimmyTAR |
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Posts: 773 (09/29/08 1:57 PM) Registered user |
Mrs Visalo wrote: Big red ecks. |
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