ELECTION 08: PALINTOLOGY, SCIENCE OR SUPERSTITION?

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survivorjb2003		#2801	[-]
Posts: 5998 (09/07/08 11:26 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MunchkinsByProxy wrote: "How is this bad? Do you even know anyone on SS? My grandfather shouldn't have to pay taxes...he isn't working and he worked 50 years of his life for this country. His income shouldn't be taxed. " WHAT? Everyone should pay something to the goverment because everybody gets benefit from it! No free passes for old age, poorness, ugliness, etc If you want to make a certain level of income tax-free up to X-thousand dollars, cool. But that needs to apply to old, young and rich and poor alike. If Gramps's income is less than that threshold, and therefore he doesn't pay taxes, ok. But he shouldn't get out of paying cuz he's an old fart. I quoted the 50k remark. My grandfather makes his SS income and whatever interest on his money in the bank, but I guarantee in total it is less than 50k.
survivorjb2003		#2802	[-]
Posts: 5999 (09/07/08 11:28 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	AllMenAreIslands wrote: survivorjb2003 wrote: PhoofeGirl wrote: From MSNBC "Compare the Candidates" - Under Tax Reform http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/26533620/ Obama: Provide taxpayers the option of a "pre-filled" tax form that they simply verify and sign. Talk about dumbing down America. How hard is an 1040EZ to fill out? The average reading level of America is 5th grade. Americans in general are very stupid (and I'm an American). In nursing school, they teach us to dumb everything down like we're talking to a 10 year old when teaching patients about care and their disease process. What happened to No Child Left Behind? And all those years of public education really helped, eh? I wasn't in public school when No Child Left Behind became enacted; either way, I was always at the top of my class so that wouldn't have effected me. I come from a poor, working class background but I was raised that no matter how well you make it, you always help the little guy. Because it's the moral, right thing to do. Republicans in this day and age just don't seem to get that and just want to sit in the dark clutching their money to their chest like greedy, drooling mutts.
Remington Steele		#2803	[-]
Posts: 1731 (09/07/08 11:33 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	In nursing school, they teach us to dumb everything down like we're talking to a 10 year old when teaching patients about care and their disease process. That's upsetting. I've never been treated badly by nurses, but most doctors have serious personality/mental problems.
kooyah		#2804	[-]
Posts: 4276 (09/07/08 11:36 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Gregoire wrote: Sarah Palin is positioning herself as a person who doesn't give interviews so how does anybody know anything about her? If it wasn't for the press doing their job (and in many cases, going way over the top about it), all we would have to go on is essentially a press release. It shows the shallowness of a base if all it takes to be organized is a single speech and a press release. But why should she talk to Time when she can be on the cover of People? I mean, they're, like, the same, right?
meatball77		#2805	[-]
Posts: 8759 (09/07/08 11:41 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	No child left behind would of effected you if you were at the top of the class. They're the ones that are effected the most by no child left behind. The high kids are ignored, all the extra work goes to the kids that are behind. No need for gifted or advanced programs, it doesn't help test scores. NCLB is based on a pass or fail system. Either a child passes or fails based on a line. The school passes or fails based on a line. If a school has a seventh grader that starts school reading on fourth grade level and at the end of the year is reading on a sixth grade level that child and that teacher is a failure because they didn't pass the test at a seventh grade level. Who cares that they've done three grade levels worth of progress or that they started out behind, they're still a failure. And the child that is in the fourth grade that starts the year reading at a seventh grade level and makes no progress whatsoever at all because no one is challenging the kid is a success because they passed the fourth grade test.
squashthebeef		#2806	[-]
Posts: 15029 (09/07/08 11:46 AM) faqmaster More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	No child left behind would of effected you if you were at the top of the class. would have affected
CBRetriever		#2807	[-]
Posts: 20928 (09/07/08 11:48 AM) MESS member More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The last doctor, that I interacted with (ER last week), didn't dumb down anything for us. And that was even though I was dressed in an old Tshirt, jeans and sandals as was the Mr and looked like old hippies. Of course, we don't exactly sound or talk like we're uneducated.
StarrEise		#2808	[-]
Posts: 6641 (09/07/08 11:49 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	n/m
CBRetriever		#2809	[-]
Posts: 20930 (09/07/08 11:53 AM) MESS member More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	thank you squash, that bothered me too
Remington Steele		#2810	[-]
Posts: 1732 (09/07/08 11:56 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	meatball's good people...and a MUSIC teacher. None of us are good at everything.
CBRetriever		#2811	[-]
Posts: 20931 (09/07/08 11:59 AM) MESS member More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I know - I like meatball, which is why I didn't say anything and she does have some good points in that post
survivorjb2003		#2812	[-]
Posts: 6000 (09/07/08 12:00 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Remington Steele wrote: In nursing school, they teach us to dumb everything down like we're talking to a 10 year old when teaching patients about care and their disease process. That's upsetting. I've never been treated badly by nurses, but most doctors have serious personality/mental problems. Well they don't teach us to be MEAN. Just to make sure we are being basic so everyone will get it.
survivorjb2003		#2813	[-]
Posts: 6001 (09/07/08 12:01 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	CBRetriever wrote: The last doctor, that I interacted with (ER last week), didn't dumb down anything for us. And that was even though I was dressed in an old Tshirt, jeans and sandals as was the Mr and looked like old hippies. Of course, we don't exactly sound or talk like we're uneducated. So he went over the pathophysiology of whatever you were there for at the genetic and molecular level? Doubt it, CBR. Sorry. You probably didn't realize he was dumbing it down.
Remington Steele		#2814	[-]
Posts: 1733 (09/07/08 12:05 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Oh, come on. You know it's unfeasible to teach medicine to every single patient -- and not because they have to "dumb it down." They may not teach anyone to be mean, but they sure as hell encourage it by framing it as "dumbing down" instead of "lack of knowledge of a particular area." Last Edited By: Remington Steele 09/07/08 12:07 PM. Edited 1 times.
CBRetriever		#2815	[-]
Posts: 20932 (09/07/08 12:08 PM) MESS member More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	interstitial density is present in the peripancreatic fat diverticulum in the proximal sigmoidal colon not exactly dumbing it down to a fifth grade level - maybe to a college level
survivorjb2003		#2816	[-]
Posts: 6002 (09/07/08 12:08 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well, it would be feasible if everyone had the same knowledge of biology and such. The reasons we are taught to dumb it down is because not everybody is versed in medicine and biology and because there are many (not CBR) that are very uneducated. That's why we follow the KISS principle. I mean, a couple months ago when I mentioned a the splenic flexure of the large intestine and how I had pain there, people though I was being weird. To nurses/doctors that terminology isn't weird; to everyone else it is "tummy pain". They may not teach anyone to be mean, but they sure as hell encourage it by framing it as "dumbing down" instead of "lack of knowledge of a particular area." Dumbing down was my term. They frame it as a nursing dx like "Knowledge deficit r/t disease process manifested by incomplete understanding of pathophysiology of [disease]". interstitial density is present in the peripancreatic fat diverticulum in the proximal sigmoidal colon not exactly dumbing it down to a fifth grade level - maybe to a college level Right, when someone realizes your level of education or intelligence (and you know I think you are very intelligent), they'll teach to that level. You have to realize that you are an anomaly CBR though, not the norm. A Last Edited By: survivorjb2003 09/07/08 12:10 PM. Edited 4 times.
CBRetriever		#2817	[-]
Posts: 20933 (09/07/08 12:10 PM) MESS member More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	and I would known what you were talking about - getting a nutrition degree requires familiarizing oneself with medical terminology
Bonestripper		#2818	[-]
Posts: 726 (09/07/08 12:10 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Well, it would be feasible if everyone had the same knowledge of biology and such. The reasons we are taught to dumb it down is because not everybody is versed in medicine and biology and because there are many (not CBR) that are very uneducated. That's why we follow the KISS principle. I mean, a couple months ago when I mentioned a the splenic flexure of the large intestine and how I had pain there, people though I was being weird. To nurses/doctors that terminology isn't weird; to everyone else it is "tummy pain". Nice elitist attitude you got there libby
TobaccoRhoda		#2819	[-]
Posts: 26800 (09/07/08 12:12 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	We're drifting here. Let's get back to talking about how Palin shouldn't be running for office because she's a mother. I really really had fun during that part.
survivorjb2003		#2820	[-]
Posts: 6003 (09/07/08 12:12 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Bonestripper wrote: Well, it would be feasible if everyone had the same knowledge of biology and such. The reasons we are taught to dumb it down is because not everybody is versed in medicine and biology and because there are many (not CBR) that are very uneducated. That's why we follow the KISS principle. I mean, a couple months ago when I mentioned a the splenic flexure of the large intestine and how I had pain there, people though I was being weird. To nurses/doctors that terminology isn't weird; to everyone else it is "tummy pain". Nice elitist attitude you got there libby So it's elitist to realize some people are uneducated and thus need to be taught in different ways than those that aren't? No, that's called realism. I can see you lack inference skills though! We're drifting here. Let's get back to talking about how Palin shouldn't be running for office because she's a mother. I really really had fun during that part. She shouldn't be running because she has no federal experience and is a complete dumbass who can't even prevent her 17 year old daughter from getting knocked up. If she were pro-contraception like she says she is and not a failure as a parent and had a sex-positive attitude, she would have provided her daughter with birth control pills and condoms. Instead, her underage daughter will have a child well before she should be. She also only has a BA, and I am not comfortable with any POTUS or VP having just a BA. A BA says nothing and any idiot can get one nowadays. Last Edited By: survivorjb2003 09/07/08 12:15 PM. Edited 1 times.

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ELECTION 08: PALINTOLOGY, SCIENCE OR SUPERSTITION?