Greatest American Dog: Presley OWNS the building!

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Drew B		#401	[-]
Posts: 3808 (09/05/08 11:46 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Dog lovers, if you get the National Geographic channel, you should check out the documentary "Dogtown" featuring the rehabilitation of the Michael Vick dogs. Very inspirational...
OG sofa		#402	[-]
Posts: 752 (09/06/08 12:07 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	dude, i wanted to watch that show. i couldn't. its like every time one of those sarah mclaughlin commercials comes on. i have to turn away. i can't watch that shit. i'm doing everything i can. i just don't want to see anymore...
Drew B		#403	[-]
Posts: 3809 (09/06/08 12:45 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The Sarah MacLachlan ads get me, too. I was prepared to cry for two hours, but I didn't. It was actually uplifting.
Cuauhtemoc Gilmore		#404	[-]
Posts: 12889 (09/06/08 2:16 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	<3 Sarah. I saw the ad while I was on my lunch break in the break room and some old lady wiped a tear from her eye.
54321blastoff		#405	[-]
Posts: 4558 (09/06/08 9:18 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I want my main man Andrew to win but if I had to pick the Greatest American Dog out of the 3 left, I think it should really go to Galaxy. Andrew is well trained but very laid back and too attached to Laurie. Presley is overly active and a bit too playful. Galaxy is a good combo of both. She can be calm and obediant but she can slo be a risk taker and playful. I don't see her as robotic at all. I see her as happy and with a really nice temperment.
TequilaVaquero		#406	[-]
Posts: 2178 (09/06/08 9:38 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	swim4life227 wrote: I get that the judges when they said that Leroy and Galaxy weren't necessarily showing loyalty, but possibly fear. However, it's not like Presley showed any loyalty at all. He disobeyed his owner the minute Laurie threw a toy. So I'm a little confused how Presley showed loyalty but the others didn't. There wasn't any solid proof IMO to eliminate Teresa/Leroy when Travis/Presley clearly did the worst. You're only looking at loyalty from the dogs, not the owner. You could say that the owner being loyal to the dog would want the dog to not feel threatened. It's almost like the stage mom's who push their little girl to do all sorts of shit whether they want to or not.
anym0		#407	[-]
Posts: 115 (09/06/08 10:11 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I guess my dog, or any dog like mine, would have no chance in that so-called loyalty challenge. My baby just LOVES people so much she'd go to anyone who'd look at her way. And she never, NEVER barks at strangers who come to our house either. Hope Andrew wins. (Probably never will, though.)
swim4life227		#408	[-]
Posts: 4715 (09/06/08 12:33 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	TequilaVaquero wrote: swim4life227 wrote: I get that the judges when they said that Leroy and Galaxy weren't necessarily showing loyalty, but possibly fear. However, it's not like Presley showed any loyalty at all. He disobeyed his owner the minute Laurie threw a toy. So I'm a little confused how Presley showed loyalty but the others didn't. There wasn't any solid proof IMO to eliminate Teresa/Leroy when Travis/Presley clearly did the worst. You're only looking at loyalty from the dogs, not the owner. You could say that the owner being loyal to the dog would want the dog to not feel threatened. It's almost like the stage mom's who push their little girl to do all sorts of shit whether they want to or not. Yeah but wasn't the challenge to test the dogs loyalty? The show isn't "Greatest American Dog Owner!" It's really not their abilities that are being tested, it's their dogs.
mareneli		#409	[-]
Posts: 1365 (09/06/08 2:50 PM) MESS member Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	54321blastoff wrote: Presley is overly active and a bit too playful. Yeah, but for a boxer of his age he is incredibly disciplined. I am amazed each week at what he can do. I could handle any of the three remaining to win -- I was glad Teresa and Leroy were eliminated. I think each of the remaining pairs has pros and cons, and you could justify a winner in any one of them.
TequilaVaquero		#410	[-]
Posts: 2182 (09/06/08 3:13 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	swim4life227 wrote: TequilaVaquero wrote: swim4life227 wrote: I get that the judges when they said that Leroy and Galaxy weren't necessarily showing loyalty, but possibly fear. However, it's not like Presley showed any loyalty at all. He disobeyed his owner the minute Laurie threw a toy. So I'm a little confused how Presley showed loyalty but the others didn't. There wasn't any solid proof IMO to eliminate Teresa/Leroy when Travis/Presley clearly did the worst. You're only looking at loyalty from the dogs, not the owner. You could say that the owner being loyal to the dog would want the dog to not feel threatened. It's almost like the stage mom's who push their little girl to do all sorts of shit whether they want to or not. Yeah but wasn't the challenge to test the dogs loyalty? The show isn't "Greatest American Dog Owner!" It's really not their abilities that are being tested, it's their dogs. Umm have you been watching the show? It's all about the relationship between the owner and the dogs. Just about every critique has been about the way they handle their dogs. On a side note, fuck Jade for her "This is not America's Next Top Best Friend" line. Now everyone uses that as a justification, everyone who uses "This isn't called Top Chef who one time cried because his dog died" or "This isn't called America's Got Talent unless you have a good sob story then you don't need talent". Quit trying to translate 3 words literally as your justification!
Cuauhtemoc Gilmore		#411	[-]
Posts: 12894 (09/06/08 3:34 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Saturday afternoon Travis and Presley love. <3333333333
burnettfollower		#412	[-]
Posts: 1366 (09/06/08 4:16 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	anym0 wrote: I guess my dog, or any dog like mine, would have no chance in that so-called loyalty challenge. My baby just LOVES people so much she'd go to anyone who'd look at her way. And she never, NEVER barks at strangers who come to our house either. Hope Andrew wins. (Probably never will, though.) Seriously, that sounds like my dog, and he's a boxer. His breed is supposed to be scary looking, but he's such a big mush and he loves it when people are coming over. And he's a quiet dog too.
swim4life227		#413	[-]
Posts: 4719 (09/06/08 4:56 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Umm have you been watching the show? It's all about the relationship between the owner and the dogs. Just about every critique has been about the way they handle their dogs. There was no criteria on if the owners showed loyalty to their fucking dogs. It was the other way around.
TequilaVaquero		#414	[-]
Posts: 2186 (09/06/08 7:10 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So you think they should be ok with the owner smacking their dog and kicking their dog as long as they do what they want? This whole show has been about owners and their dog. They got onto Bill for pushing Star in the maze, got onto Brandi for manhandling Beacon, the list goes on and on. Hell, look at the photo challenge, the dog could do whatever they wanted, but it wasn't like they said when to take the picture and which one.
swim4life227		#415	[-]
Posts: 4721 (09/06/08 8:44 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So you think they should be ok with the owner smacking their dog and kicking their dog as long as they do what they want? When was Teresa smacking and kicking her dog in the challenge?
TequilaVaquero		#416	[-]
Posts: 2187 (09/06/08 9:41 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	You said there was no criteria, so basically anything is acceptable. I never said anyone did, but you said they should only look at the behavior of the dogs.
drawrein		#417	[-]
Posts: 418 (09/07/08 3:36 PM) I don't get most of the jokes Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Drew B wrote: If Leroy was barking his head off, he wasn't very focused, either. So that means that team failed 2 of the criteria, too. Leroy's barking has everything to do with his excitement level, not much, if at all, to do with his focus. Barking is a way for dogs to communicate, and in Leroy's case, I think Theresa created a problem when she yells at him to stop...he thinks she's answering him back. OG sofa wrote: i had the pleasure of the company of a jack russell terrier for seven years. his name was sunshine. i probably could have gotten him through that "loyalty" challenge, but i would have had to scream my lungs off to keep his attention on the sit-stay. jrts have instincts hard-wired directly from their big hearts that completely bypass their brains. its not fear, its not threatening, its about capturing and maintaining attention to overcome instinct. the brit would have risen in her chair from the crap (and that stick) that would have been exiting her. i love andrew. one of my favorites. but andrew's only "need" in life is to love laurie. that's cool. that's a beautiful thing. my little sunshine had a "need" to charge, corner and contain anything lesser on his idea of the food chain (or any toy representation.) it is what he was born to do, what he was designed to do. it was his job. my job in civilized society was to break that instinctual reaction and get him to think outside of that box. to listen to me (however loud...loyalty.) border collies are born and designed to do a job too. asking that same "loyalty" task of both andrew and leroy is so apples and oranges it is ridiculous. if my sunshine had done a perfect sit-stay and not advanced out of his original position (like leroy did) i would be disappointed. that would have meant i completely destroyed the beautiful dog that he was. and galaxy is not a robot. he's not an andrew, not a sunshine. jd did exactly what was necessary to get galaxy's attention to accomplish the task as explained. a different breed, a different approach. these judges are idiots. its not one size fits all. maybe the only way to do this show is with the same breeds competing. andrews v. andrews with puppies v. puppies, etc. ^^^ total agreeance! Have you ever watch Victoria Stillwell's show on NGC? I have a few times, really wasn't that impressed, to be honest. Yes, she did help solve the problems in most, if not all the cases (it's a show about her training prowess, after all ;) ), but they were mostly issues caused by ignorant owners. She's also very standoff-ish during her sessions...I think the only time I saw her actually touching a dog was when she put a special collar on to walk a pulling dog....for about 10 steps, before handing it over to the owner. I'm told the finale is this week, the final three. I like all three dogs, but I'm rooting for JD & Galaxy.
drawrein		#418	[-]
Posts: 419 (09/07/08 3:43 PM) I don't get most of the jokes Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	OG sofa wrote: dude, i wanted to watch that show. i couldn't. its like every time one of those sarah mclaughlin commercials comes on. i have to turn away. i can't watch that shit. i'm doing everything i can. i just don't want to see anymore... I know what you mean, I stopped watching Animal Precinct years ago, and I do usually look away when the ASPCA ads come on, but DogTown's Michael Vicks Dogs program isn't "bad" -- they didn't focus very much on the dogs past life; all they showed were very very short b&w clips of two dogs fighting a few times. Most of the show is about how these dogs are learning to trust humans and be a dog, for the first time in their lives. You really should watch it, you won't regret it.
ShirleyYouJest		#419	[-]
Posts: 586 (09/08/08 12:32 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I was expecting Theresa and Leroy to get booted before I saw the show. I'm sorta surprised that they've stayed this long. I think that Leroy is a good, well trained dog, sort of in spite of Theresa. And I like her and all, so nothing personal, it's just her stress level is outta this world. For example, when JD had Leroy for their time together, Leroy didn't bark at all and performed every command flawlessly. So, yeah, Theresa's really gotta work on her own behavior. Okay, I'm no big fan of JD, but neither do I think he's the devil incarnate with his training. Victoria is just over the top with the ridiculousness of her criticisms. Galaxy is lovin' her life, lady. She has fun with JD every single day and she gets to use her brain and be challenged every single day. That guy loves the hell outta that dog and Victoria's understanding of JD's "sit/stay" language and behavior was entirely off the mark. The other female judge sorta looked like she was biting her tongue off. Laurie and Andrew are impressive. Watching the tiny dog stay put in front of that elephant was just jaw dropping. That being said, when are we going to hear about how unhealthy it is for a dog to be so obsessed and devoted to its owner? I mean, he's OCD already. I like Travis and Presley (Presley way more than Travis), but I don't think they'll win. They shouldn't win. All that being said, I'm okay with any of these finalists winning. But Bill and Star were my favorite couple and I wish they were in the finals.
IIQQII		#420	[-]
Posts: 557 (09/09/08 8:20 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Finale this week! The prize = $250 000!

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