ELECTION 08: PALINTOLOGY, SCIENCE OR SUPERSTITION?

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GoodNeighborgirl		#2501	[-]
Posts: 17280 (09/06/08 1:34 PM) Fatty McBadmom More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	memi, can you link the John Stewart where he shows Rove and BillO contradicting themselves horribly?
Strange Flute		#2502	[-]
Posts: 3220 (09/06/08 1:38 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Pahrump Mania wrote: The news media is getting them in, but unless they are fucking super ninjas they aren't going to assassinate anyone without a weapon, and they are being checked for those. They said they got passes from conventioneers who were leaving. You would think, you would hope thaty they were competant enough to prevent weapons from getting in. Let's face it, for an $82 million event, it was a poorly planned thing. Code Pink isn't a large group and all the members are known by the FBI. Facial recognition technology? No. Diligent spotters? No.
RobVanStratus		#2503	[-]
Posts: 7061 (09/06/08 1:39 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Um, does Palin only have the same fucking speech every time she speaks? I swear I've heard about her saying politicians use their careers to make change instead of using change to make their careers and yapping about what great things she didn't do for Alaska.
StarrEise		#2504	[-]
Posts: 6626 (09/06/08 1:50 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	PhoofeGirl wrote: Starr - Thanks for elaborating on your previous comments. You are obviously, very well versed in this topic. ::slaps Phoofe's ass:: Good game!
memyselfandi		#2505	[-]
Posts: 15850 (09/06/08 1:56 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The gender card doubletalk thing? Here ya go GNG: And as a bonus here's a recap of McBush's acceptance speech: And an explanation of "small town values":
GrenadeJumper85		#2506	[-]
Posts: 5822 (09/06/08 2:13 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	RobVanStratus wrote: Um, does Palin only have the same fucking speech every time she speaks? I swear I've heard about her saying politicians use their careers to make change instead of using change to make their careers and yapping about what great things she didn't do for Alaska. X She's been repeating the same speech the past two days! I hope she continues bashing the community organizing position, I'm sure that'll garner her a lot of support!
hatebrigade		#2507	[-]
Posts: 2589 (09/06/08 2:14 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Jon Stewart and Colbert Report were great last night. Small town values was hilarious.
CBRetriever		#2508	[-]
Posts: 20872 (09/06/08 2:16 PM) MESS member More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Ann Margret Thatcher wrote: Cracks me up how some automatically equate diplomacy with appeasement. T Roosevelt was a kick ass president who knew a lot about war, but he knew as much or more about diplomacy. It's not a weakness. and I still <3 AMT
StatelyWayneManor		#2509	[-]
Posts: 8146 (09/06/08 2:18 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	...and I still say its called SODA! Whoops. Wrong thread.
cg41386		#2510	[-]
Posts: 14028 (09/06/08 2:19 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	wrsrules wrote: they are politically uneducated and get their info from places like Saturday Night Live and MTV or who their favorite singer or actor supports, absolutally no confusion at all about this! I would say people under 35 though not under 40. It's pretty ironic how you're calling young people "politically uneducated" when you're rather politically uneducated yourself.
GrenadeJumper85		#2511	[-]
Posts: 5823 (09/06/08 2:26 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	This is great: <3 <3 John Stewart and Steve Colbert <3 <3
CBRetriever		#2512	[-]
Posts: 20873 (09/06/08 2:26 PM) MESS member More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'd think the younger set would be more politically knowledgeable given all the information available out on the web. And back in the Vietnam War era, I was pretty aware of what was going on in the world through reading anything I could get my hands on. And most of my friends were the same. We could have been an aberration, being that we were college students out to get a good education.
Beefcake		#2513	[-]
Posts: 1371 (09/06/08 2:27 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Ann Margret Thatcher wrote: Cracks me up how some automatically equate diplomacy with appeasement. T Roosevelt was a kick ass president who knew a lot about war, but he knew as much or more about diplomacy. It's not a weakness. And TR won the Nobel Peace Prize.
sadllama		#2514	[-]
Posts: 2587 (09/06/08 2:29 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	cg41386 wrote: wrsrules wrote: they are politically uneducated and get their info from places like Saturday Night Live and MTV or who their favorite singer or actor supports, absolutally no confusion at all about this! I would say people under 35 though not under 40. It's pretty ironic how you're calling young people "politically uneducated" when you're rather politically uneducated yourself. Judging by the amount of grammatical errors and mispellings in her posts I'd say she's just plain uneducated.
Gregoire		#2515	[-]
Posts: 29133 (09/06/08 2:29 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	All Obama has to do for the next few weeks is simply show that Daily Show video, and he'll sweep into office.
Beefcake		#2516	[-]
Posts: 1372 (09/06/08 2:32 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Zzunk wrote: StarrEise wrote: That IS one of the major issues of this election, the fact that John McCain supports 90 percent of Bush's policies which were failures. That's not slinging mud, that's stating a fact. The Dems have been trying to talk issues for some time now, but now the Repubs are closing ranks, not permitting their own candidates to do interviews, etc. How can you support a party that is running on solely a candidate's personal history but hasn't offered any ideas on how to resolve problems facing the country? Slinging mud is normal business in politics. All I'm saying, dearest StarrE, is the "90 percent same voting as Bush" statement is OLD NEWS. I would hope the Democrats could show more intelligence that just repeating the same thing. Obama has a large platform, so use it. Ditto for the Republicans. As for the how can I support a candidate based solely on their personal history: I don't, but I am having a hard time with the Democrat's choice of a candidate that is less experienced than Herbert Hoover, who bombed as a President. I'm of the opinion that G.W. Bush has been a dismal President, and he had more experience than Barack Obama does. So why should I believe that a great orator like Obama is worth taking the risk on? He has only proven that he can get elected and raise millions for his campaign chest. He constantly dodges answering the experience question. I'd love to him explain why his credentials are equal or better than any other President-elect in the last 100 years. It would be pretty hard to find anyone running for president who had more experience than Herbert Hoover. He had more executive experience than probably any president in history. and when it comes to pure brain power, "the Boy Genius" was right up there with Thomas Jefferson and Teddy Roosevelt among geniuses in the presidency.
Gregoire		#2517	[-]
Posts: 29135 (09/06/08 2:41 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm not clear why everybody keeps thinking that 'experience' alone makes a great president? History is filled with very experienced men who are lousy presidents, and vice versa. You don't judge a leader by one solitary quality. Technically, nobody but a vice president has true presidential experience. And yet many vice presidents have made horrible presidents. A president needs judgement, intelligence, ideology, force of direction, charisma, determination, aggression and patience, policy strength, knowledge, patriotism and conviction. Experience only gives you an idea of what a person's abilities are in those qualities, it is not necessarily a quality in itself. By the way, how on earth can John McCain commandeer a message of 'change' when he's a Republican who firmly part of the Washington establishment? Why wasn't his biography and 'maverick' ways enough eight years ago? Last Edited By: Gregoire 09/06/08 2:46 PM. Edited 1 times.
thriving sobi		#2518	[-]
Posts: 387 (09/06/08 2:41 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I have to admit, as an independant who is unhappy with McCains choice of Palin, I was still leaning towards McCain. However, that was one fucking scary video clip from the Daily Show.
CBRetriever		#2519	[-]
Posts: 20874 (09/06/08 2:45 PM) MESS member More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Wasn't Carter considered to have plenty of experience?
Beefcake		#2520	[-]
Posts: 1374 (09/06/08 2:49 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Gregoire wrote: I'm not clear why everybody keeps thinking that 'experience' alone makes a great president? History is filled with very experienced men who are lousy presidents, and vice versa. You don't judge a leader by one solitary quality. Technically, nobody but a vice president has true presidential experience. And yet many vice presidents have made horrible presidents. A president needs judgement, intelligence, ideology, force of direction, charisma, determination, aggression and patience, policy strength, knowledge, patriotism and conviction. Experience only gives you an idea of what a person's abilities are in those qualities, it is not necessarily a quality in itself. Experience gives voters an idea of how a person will respond to crisis. It also can show how a person's values and personality have evolved over time. Obama is not very experienced compared to most other candidates for president, but you're right in the sense that that is not necessarily important. I think that Obama's biggest weakness is that he has never been tested; we have no evidence by which to judge how he might react on a crisis. I know I'm in the minority, but I thought McCain acceptance speech was excellent, because he told the story of how he's evolved over the last 40 years from an arrogant little shit to a person who has a track-record of placing the best-interests of the country ahead of his own.

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ELECTION 08: PALINTOLOGY, SCIENCE OR SUPERSTITION?