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ArtieeLange wrote:

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BobBob77 wrote:

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If you went on Survivor and played with these rules, do you think you would win? If you played with your own system.

Yes? A winner can't be predicted.

What can be predicted is that if I win, I earned it through competition and strategy, not luck or randomness like now.
What can be predicted is that if I was voted off, it was through my own mistakes, not luck or randomness like now.
What can be predicted is that you won't understand this explanation, because your brain is pea-sized.

The problem is that you don't give a shit about strategy if all you care about is winning challenges. Hell, we have the Amazing Race if you want to see people compete physically with one another.What can be predicted is that if you win, you did it either solely through competition or through strategy, never a mix of the two, because anyone good enough at challenges to win, but not good enough to guarantee themselves a spot in the top half, would be voted out, and anyone good enough at strategy to make it to the end would've lost most, if not all of the challenges, hence them having to use strategy in voting people out. What can be predicted is that if you're voted out, it's entirely based on the luck or randomness of the challenge you did poorly in. As mentioned before, you could have someone like Ozzy who's good at swimming, good at pretty much all possible challenges...but you find the one thing he's bad at, make him lose, and he's voted out from the loser tribe without standing a chance because he never got to form alliances or relationships with the losers, and they have no benefit to keeping him.

Current System: It's a benefit to keep the strong players around because they help the tribe win challenges.
Your System: It's a benefit to vote out the strongest players as soon as possible, so they don't win more challenges.

All your system does is basically take what happens at the merge in the current system and start it from day 1, thus putting the stronger players in a worse position than they already are.

Here's a question for you that I know you won't answer because you're fucking retarded and can't logically respond to it anyway:

If Chet, who you seem to have a particular hatred for, makes it past a few tribal councils under the current system (three, actually, and then he was voted out), is bad in your eyes...then how exactly would you feel when Chet, being weak and maybe able to win one challenge at best, makes it to the end under your system because of the fact that he's physically unable to compete in challenges and doesn't strategize, thus making him the least threatening loser. He'd pretty much be guaranteed to make the final 2 from day 1, depending on how your system works from the final 4 onward. So explain how your system is better at weeding out the weak when there's no benefit to get rid of someone like Chet and no benefit to keep someone like Ozzy at all? Or did you forget that Ozzy outlasted Chet AND Tracy, despite Tracy's pleas that Ozzy was a threat when it came time for the merge.

And people don't have a chance to succeed under the current system? Sonja, the weakest and oldest woman on her tribe almost survived because she was more likable than cantankerous Rudy. Rudy, meanwhile, stayed around because he was viewed as physically stronger than Sonja. Under your system, it's basically the same as having pre-picked tribes, only sometimes things get switched up, either way, you're more than likely going to have a group of losers that have been together for most of the game, and a group of winners that have been together for most of the game, and maybe one or two players in the middle, who side with the losers, because obviously they're easier to beat. In the end, it results in a final of, let's use China as an example, a final of Leslie, Courtney, Todd, and Frosti. Then you bitch about how Todd's a "twink" and Leslie and Courtney are women, and Frosti's not white, and thus none of them deserve to win. So the next time, you make some new rule to benefit the challenge whores and screw the players with good social and strategic games.

ArtieeLange wrote:

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Kitty Pryde1 wrote:

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Under your system, it's basically the same as having pre-picked tribes

That's like saying you're basically athletic and smart, even though you are chubby and dumb.

Again, you miss what matters, because you are so focused on how players carry or punish other players, instead of how players advance themselves (because of your own personality defects).

What matters is not that there are "two sides".

What matters is that the sides are 1) determined by the players rank and 2) this temporary rank varies depending on each successive challenge, thereby making the teams dynamic.

Next.

But if each challenge is different and allows for anyone to have a chance, then it's basically the same as the current system, where both tribes have a chance at winning, and some, like Ulong, suck because the players (Steph) suck. Your system basically says that certain players don't deserve to play the game unless they win challenges, which is not what Survivor is about. Your system would have the same end result as the current system, and you'd bitch and moan about how people like Courtney and Chet would make it to the end while people like James and Erik who are strong, but not extremely good at challenges, would be voted out. So basically, your idea is retarded, and you, by extension of your vast, jumbled and sometimes contradictory defenses of said idea, are also retarded. And for the record, I'm probably a whole lot more attractive than you, you fat fuck, so get over yourself. No one thinks your idea is smart except a small handful, which basically makes them like people who believe the Earth is flat, with you as their cult leader.

ArtieeLange wrote:

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Kitty Pryde1 wrote:

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if each challenge is different and allows for anyone to have a chance, then it's basically the same as the current system, where both tribes have a chance at winning

Current system rules, 2 teams, 2 people each, I am stuck on your team. We lose every challenge because you are obese and have a "special needs" brain.

My system rules, 2 teams, 2 people each. Every challenge you sink to the last place and squeal like a pig, while I bask in first place, completely free of the anchor that is you.

See, dummy? It's not "basically the same as the current system". Its the opposite of the current system.

Again, the opposite of everything you say is true.

If you were capable of getting first place in ANY Survivor competition, I highly doubt you'd be wasting your time trolling on an internet forum, fatass. Plus, even if by some miracle, you were able to win all the time, and I was able to lose, I'd still beat you in the end because I'd never get voted out due to my weakness, and then the jury would vote for me to win because I'd actually have to strategize, unlike you, which is what the players care about. Not how many fucking push-ups you can do, or whatever other fucking challenges you'd like to see happen.