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Posts: 14384 (08/23/08 10:29 PM) Registered user |
The term you really want to use is "Blindside". Backdoor only applies if you didn't get a chance to play for VETO. Blindside is much more
satisfying as they never saw it coming. Also much more prevalent.
Michelle (BB4) was a fantastic one amoung others. |
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Quiddity |
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Posts: 3379 (08/23/08 10:31 PM) Registered User |
Those are the ONLY backdoors, imo. Everyone else either played in PoV or had the opportunity to play in PoV by being selected out of that bag. These were the only 3 who had no chance of saving themselves. I think the term gets thrown around waaaaaaaaay too much. Agreed. I remember last season Sharon claimed she was backdoored for her original eviction!  Jase also bitched a lot in BBAS when he willfully dropped
out of the veto competition that round, so he had no leg to stand on there.
And it drives me crazy when people say Kaysar was backdoored in S6. We've had multiple people say it in this thread already -_- Kaysar was part of the initial noms his first eviction. And the second time, he played in the veto competition and didn't win it. Too bad for him. He already knew that Jen was not sticking to the deal at the time because she put up Rachel & Janelle instead of two members of the friendship. He already knew that the friendship was mad at him for what he did to Cappy. The only time Kaysar was backdoored was in All Stars. The random picking for veto competitors certainly has made it a lot tougher to backdoor someone, but I'd still count someone like BB8 Jen for example as being backdoored. AlwaysAwesomeAdam wrote: Fixed to remove a great many evictions that were not backdoors. Mike in BB8 is one I don't think anyone has named yet. Of course he brought it on himself, so if there is one that you could argue isn't a true backdooring, I'd say that one is it.
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highwind44029 |
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Posts: 23901 (08/23/08 10:54 PM) Registered user |
Wasn't Joe also backdoored or did he play in the veto Daniele won?
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OaktownFunk |
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Posts: 1017 (08/23/08 10:57 PM) Registered user |
Were any "floaters" "backdoored"?
two of the most misused and misunderstood BB terms. |
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Posts: 336 (08/23/08 11:09 PM) |
If you just refer the term backdoored to somebody that didn't play for veto and then nominated after veto is used you can potentially have a whole list of
people. But if that person is promised safety from HOH even if veto is used and they get nominated then they are truly backdoored whether they played for veto
or not.
A floater is somebody who doesn't really commit to either side of the house. They kind of just lay in the water letting the waves (power) move them to where they have to go. They will throw HOH comps and veto comps even though they probably couldn't win it if they tried. Once it reaches end game the "floater" will align with the most powerful group currently in the house while still being on good terms with the other alliance. If that powers or numbers switch the floater will casually move to the other side. Refer to Erika. |
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OaktownFunk |
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Posts: 1021 (08/23/08 11:18 PM) Registered user |
I like your explanations AAA.....I was just saying that I hate these 2 bb terms because some people say them , just to say them, as if their point is validated
more.
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Riff |
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Posts: 1514 (08/23/08 11:19 PM) |
Jase BB5
James BB6 Jen BB8 James BB9 (when Ryan "evicted" him) They were all veto threats, so they were the "best" backdoors. Especially the last one, since I was thoroughly sick of seeing him on my feeds by that point. A pox on Grodner for pulling every string in the book to shove him down my throat for another 3 weeks and then hand him a $25,000 coke and meth pity party prize. |
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Everything is Eventual |
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Posts: 3463 (08/23/08 11:21 PM) Registered user |
April by Ollie
late night feeds |
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James Barber |
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Posts: 12633 (08/24/08 12:24 AM) Registered User |
highwind44029 wrote:He played. He was like second or third in that veto. |
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PanamanianDevil |
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Posts: 977 (08/24/08 6:41 AM) |
So technical
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Posts: 1355 (08/24/08 6:55 AM) |
The only time Kaysar was backdoored was in All Stars And yet, he could've prevented that too. Janelle got Houseguest's Choice, and had he won it, Danielle would've had to either nominate Howie and break the spider web deal or nominate someone else. It would've left him with having to choose between allies, but still. I always assumed that backdooring was intentional on the part of the HOH, whether by having the person not compete in veto or taking them out of the competition (which is why I consider AS Diane a backdoor even though she competed for veto that week). It's not like Jase, who self-eliminated in the veto, or Dustin, who volunteered to go on the block. |
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Oowatanite |
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Posts: 5572 (08/24/08 11:35 AM) Registered User |
Best Backdoor Ever in BB - Dani evicting Jen in BB8.
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Quiddity |
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Posts: 3391 (08/24/08 11:40 AM) Registered User |
Oowatanite wrote:  Dani is a cunt. Given the history of what was going on with the Donatos, I don't think I'm going that far out on a limb to say
that they rigged it such that she wouldn't be picked to compete in the veto comp.
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Posts: 1017 (08/24/08 12:15 PM) Registered User |
Backdoor only applies if you didn't get a chance to play for VETO. Blindside is much more satisfying as they never saw it coming. Also much more prevalent. I'd even go a step further and say backdoor only applies if you were the real target, but weren't nominated in the first round in order to minimize your chance at playing for, and winning, POV. There are a lot of 'backdoors' that were people that weren't really the target initially, but someone had to go up after the veto was used, and they just happened to be people that didn't play POV. |
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Posts: 1154 (08/24/08 12:22 PM) Registered User |
If I remember correctly, Jameka had a really nice looking back door.
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MJSLawrence |
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Posts: 1396 (08/24/08 12:31 PM) Registered user |
I am DYING to see Memphis pull himself off and either Ollie or Manchelle saunter up to that hot seat all gasping and panicked...Ollie, especially...all these
rules he's throwin at Dan...are you KIDDING me?? He needs a wake up call pronto!!
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Posts: 241 (08/24/08 1:29 PM) |
Best Backdoor Ever in BB - Dani evicting Jen in BB8.That wasn't a true backdoor. A true backdoor is when the HOH all along has decided to backdoor a certain person. I don't think that was Dani's plan all along with Jen. |
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Oowatanite |
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Posts: 5576 (08/24/08 3:26 PM) Registered User |
iluvbbsofun wrote:Dani had a DR right after the Amber/Jameka nominations that her true target WAS Jen. |
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kmill |
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Posts: 1598 (08/24/08 4:28 PM) Registered user |
Bah, I still think the three-nominee without a veto replacement method should be instituted. It's such a horrible cop-out for the players that were
backdoored.
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Posts: 5946 (08/25/08 12:47 AM) |
dayzdnconfuzd wrote:You are absolutely correct. There can never ever be a true backdoor again since the advent of the random draw. A true backdoor is someone who is the original target who is prevented from playing in the POV by not being chosen. Since that can't ever happen with the random draw it is a way to Blindside someone after POV, but not Backdoor. Sorry to bump this, but this is a huge pet peeve of mine that people toss around that term incorrectly on the show. |
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