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BB10 Live Feed Discussion - Part V (8/15/08 - 8/22/08)

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diewinelle		#8941	[-]
Posts: 2515 (08/22/08 8:39 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	RomCen wrote: This is what I'm hoping for. BB is a game about screwing people over. Its what makes it fun. This keeping your word shit is ridiculous. I thought it was great last year when James fucked Matt over after the endurance comp, and I will find it as equally entertaining if Dan gives the big old fuck you to Ollie/Michelle. Exactly. And in the last two comps, Dan has pulled out wins when he really needed them. So if he can back up the screwing over by winning the veto (or get Memphis to finally pull a win out of his ass) it won't matter if he screws over Ollie or not. Yeah, he'll lose jury votes. But who knows? The trick is getting to the end to fight for the votes in the first place. And I'm actually starting to think Memphis might be a good F2 match for Dan, since Memphis has done jack shit so far, and yet still has managed to piss people off. memphis did his share in that comp, rom. i wouldn't say he hasn't done jack shit. i never would have thought he'd last that long so to me, it was pretty amazing.
Blondzilla5150		#8942	[-]
Posts: 4040 (08/22/08 8:40 AM) A Danger to Myself & Others More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Renny wanted them to be pawns, but she didn't make them into pawns. Payback for just saying something is kinda shitty.
CourtCat		#8943	[-]
Posts: 2340 (08/22/08 8:41 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	RomCen wrote: This is what I'm hoping for. BB is a game about screwing people over. Its what makes it fun. This keeping your word shit is ridiculous. I thought it was great last year when James fucked Matt over after the endurance comp, and I will find it as equally entertaining if Dan gives the big old fuck you to Ollie/Michelle. Exactly. And in the last two comps, Dan has pulled out wins when he really needed them. So if he can back up the screwing over by winning the veto (or get Memphis to finally pull a win out of his ass) it won't matter if he screws over Ollie or not. Yeah, he'll lose jury votes. But who knows? The trick is getting to the end to fight for the votes in the first place. And I'm actually starting to think Memphis might be a good F2 match for Dan, since Memphis has done jack shit so far, and yet still has managed to piss people off. _____________________________________ when dan said the "lovey dovey but now game on" and the "Judas" comment he must have meant something... and the only 2 things i can think of are he plans to screw ollie/michelle and go back on his word or he plans to betray his alliance like a Judas (which seems less likely to me than him screwing ollie/michelle) what else could he mean and why would he say it if he didnt mean something by it? like as a hint to us or something.
RomCen		#8944	[-]
Posts: 15944 (08/22/08 8:41 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	memphis did his share in that comp, rom. i wouldn't say he hasn't done jack shit. i never would have thought he'd last that long so to me, it was pretty amazing. Yeah, I'll admit he tried his best in the endurance comp. Guy could barely move after he fell and he was walking funny hours later. Still, he didn't win, did he?
meggie28		#8945	[-]
Posts: 2126 (08/22/08 8:43 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Blondzilla5150 wrote: Renny wanted them to be pawns, but she didn't make them into pawns. Payback for just saying something is kinda shitty. Renny was openly rooting for Dan to fall last night. She deserves to go up just for that.
colleenlover		#8946	[-]
Posts: 8386 (08/22/08 8:43 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Hmmm, as much as I'm worried that Renny could leave, she really can't, can she? Memphis and Keesha are two votes out of four and Dan breaks the tie, and the risk would be too great to have Michelle, Jerry and Ollie playing in the HOH next week.
McWolcott		#8947	[-]
Posts: 8161 (08/22/08 8:43 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Blondzilla5150 wrote: Renny wanted them to be pawns, but she didn't make them into pawns. Payback for just saying something is kinda shitty. She has said she doesn't like Dan since day one so I don't feel sorry for her if he puts her paranoid ass up. She likes Ollie so much, it's basically his fault if she goes on the block. He could have picked her to be protected.
DeadTwista		#8948	[-]
Posts: 3416 (08/22/08 8:51 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	CourtCat wrote: when dan said the "lovey dovey but now game on" and the "Judas" comment he must have meant something... and the only 2 things i can think of are he plans to screw ollie/michelle and go back on his word or he plans to betray his alliance like a Judas (which seems less likely to me than him screwing ollie/michelle) what else could he mean and why would he say it if he didnt mean something by it? like as a hint to us or something. The only other possibility that I can think of in regards to Dan's Judas comment is maybe it was a shot at Jerry and Dan wanting him out this week. But I think its more likely the two options you mentioned.
Kym		#8949	[-]
Posts: 1493 (08/22/08 8:51 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Thank you Rom for the best update . OMG you made me laugh . Best line this season ? "That was all nice and lovey dovey, but now it's game on." A few seconds later he adds, "Let's do this like Judas." That ? is what Big Brother is all about .
wmdaggie		#8950	[-]
Posts: 1547 (08/22/08 8:53 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	WillyDarko wrote: IF DAN LIES HE IS A JUDAS GOAT AND I WILL WRITE A STRONG WORDED LETTER TO HIS SCHOOL ALONG WITH THE TAPES OF THE UPCOMING EPISODES. IT WILL CLEARLY SHOW THAT DAN CARES MORE ABOUT MONEY THEN HIS FAMILY, FRIENDS AND RELIGION YOU PEOPLE ARE EVIL! You have tapes of upcoming episodes? Quit yelling!
CourtCat		#8951	[-]
Posts: 2341 (08/22/08 8:53 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	DeadTwista wrote: CourtCat wrote: when dan said the "lovey dovey but now game on" and the "Judas" comment he must have meant something... and the only 2 things i can think of are he plans to screw ollie/michelle and go back on his word or he plans to betray his alliance like a Judas (which seems less likely to me than him screwing ollie/michelle) what else could he mean and why would he say it if he didnt mean something by it? like as a hint to us or something. The only other possibility that I can think of in regards to Dan's Judas comment is maybe it was a shot a Jerry and Dan wanting him out this week. But I think its more likely the two options you mentioned. _______________________________________________ oh thats a good point deadtwista... it could have been a reference to that and not anything to do with betraying ollie/michelle or his alliance... i didnt think of that, good catch!
moviegirl11		#8952	[-]
Posts: 2237 (08/22/08 8:56 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	lol at "tapes of upcoming episodes."
PanamanianDevil		#8953	[-]
Posts: 867 (08/22/08 8:59 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	McWolcott wrote: Atleast now the whole house will know for sure that Ollie and Michelle are working as an alliance. Dan should put up Jerry and Renny, and if Jerry wins veto and takes himself off, tough shit for Ollie and Michelle, one of them goes up. IF one of them takes Jerry off, the other one goes up. Too bad. Renny wanted them to be pawns, well it's her turn. This is going to be delicious
ginaf20697		#8954	[-]
Posts: 32761 (08/22/08 9:30 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm loving all the frothing at the mouth here about the deal. Somehow I doubt the reactions would be the same if Ollie had won and made the same deal. Dan would've been lauded as a strategical genius and Ollie would've been directed to burn in hell for even contemplating screwing him over.
DeadTwista		#8955	[-]
Posts: 3420 (08/22/08 9:35 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ginaf20697 wrote: I'm loving all the frothing at the mouth here about the deal. Somehow I doubt the reactions would be the same if Ollie had won and made the same deal. Dan would've been lauded as a strategical genius and Ollie would've been directed to burn in hell for even contemplating screwing him over. I can honestly say that I would have wanted Ollie to screw over Dan also. Ive always thought the keeping your word shit was stupid. But then again I hate all the remaining houseguests and decided to root for the one I hated the most. Jerry FTW! Jerry For The POV.
moviegirl11		#8956	[-]
Posts: 2238 (08/22/08 9:35 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ginaf20697 wrote: I'm loving all the frothing at the mouth here about the deal. Somehow I doubt the reactions would be the same if Ollie had won and made the same deal. Dan would've been lauded as a strategical genius and Ollie would've been directed to burn in hell for even contemplating screwing him over. You're probably right though I would attribute that to Ollie being far less liked in general. When someone you're not rooting for screws over the person you ARE rooting for, that makes that person even more hatable. If Ollie got HoH, promising dan safety and kept true to his word, he'd probably become a little more popular among Dan-fans. All of this is stating to obvious but its the truth and I dont see anything wrong with it even if its double-standard-ish.. People want Dan to do whatever he needs to do to get through the next week. If that means breaking his word I have a feeling a lot of people will support him on that (especially if it means someone less popular is evicted as a result). And if Dan can get through the week without breaking his word and at the same time, positioning himself for safety for another few weeks, all the better. That's pretty much how it goes.
TheyHadFaces		#8957	[-]
Posts: 3862 (08/22/08 9:35 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	CourtCat wrote: BtMNA wrote: If I had to guess, he knows its a terrible deal and is going to do everything he can NOT to be put in a situation where he has to break his word to Ollie. Tha said, I think when push comes to shove he will not put Memphis or Keesha in a situation where they are going to be evicted. So basically, go with the flow and nominate Renny and Jerry (Which he would have done anyway since Michelle and Ollie are "safe") and hope that he, Memphis or Keesha win PoV and the noms stay the same. Then Jerry goes and he can start to rebuild any frayed relations. If PoV gets used, he's in a very bad spot. I'm surprised he exposed himself like this to protect Keesha and Memphis and can only assume they will get it eventually. After all, the alternative to his deal would be an Ollie win and almost certainly Memphis and Keesha on the block together. I'm hoping they are bright enough to see that. ________________________________________________________ JMO but I think you're right and Dan definitely knows that he made a terrible deal because one of the first things he said to Memphis and repeated a couple of times was "I made a SHITTY deal" and he was telling memphis that he wanted to fill him in about it and that it would be okay but it was a shitty deal... he acknowledged more than once that the deal he made was awful. That said.. I think Dan can probably pull this off and explain himself... what if he knew he wasnt going to beat ollie... maybe Dan knew that he wasnt going to last anymore than a few more minutes? He had already told Ollie that he was ready to hang up there another 4 hours, 12 hours whatever it took and that didnt phase ollie... so he tried offering him more... if you know you're about to fall and you've tried to bluff the other guy into giving in by acting like you're fine and that doesnt work... what else can Dan do?? .... offer ollie the sun/moon and stars if that's what it takes to get him to drop! because even if you give up half your hoh power it's still better than giving it all up by trying to beat the guy when you know your ready to fall any minute. So Dan keeps offering until ollie gives in and Dan gets the HOH... now all he has to do is try and make sure that Jerry goes home and everything will be okay. I think if Dan tells Memphis that he couldnt hang on any longer and what would memphis have preferred for him to do? Drop and let ollie take the hoh or offer ollie enough to get him to drop thus retaining at least some control over the hoh? (assuming he keeps the deal) If I was Memphis I think I'd have to see the reasoning and hopefully believe that Dan did his best.... hell memphis should know better than anyone how painful it was to stay up there any longer. I really, really hope that the scenario above happens. It would go a long way to assuage my disappointment in Dan. It makes sense, but I am not sure it is actually what Dan was thinking. If it is, then he is pretty smart and as you said, he can always tell M and K that it was better than letting Ollie control everything. In the end, I don't think Dan will put up either K or M at all. I think he probably realizes that his chances of winning would go from unlikely to non-existent if he did that. I'm feeling better now than I did several hours ago, but I will feel better if Dan talks to them today and reassures them that he isn't going to put them up.
christy1018		#8958	[-]
Posts: 2139 (08/22/08 9:38 AM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	colleenlover wrote: Hmmm, as much as I'm worried that Renny could leave, she really can't, can she? Memphis and Keesha are two votes out of four and Dan breaks the tie, and the risk would be too great to have Michelle, Jerry and Ollie playing in the HOH next week. If Dan sticks to this lame as deal Renny/Memphis/Keesha could be going. All it takes is Jerry winning the veto.
IReallyHaveNoIdea		#8959	[-]
Posts: 3996 (08/22/08 9:38 AM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	�RomCen wrote: THOUGHT i heard that deal when they made it. i just thought he promised to keep ollie safe, ollie got safety for one person---michelle (i'm pretty sure about that) and dan promised that deal holds even if POV is used. that's ALL i heard. i didn't hear him tell ollie that he'd let him choose someone if POV was used. so i'm not sure that happened. did anyone hear that for sure? See, that's all I ever heard too. But several posters said they heard Dan promise to let Ollie pick a replacement nom when they were having a convo at the kitchen table (before Dan got his HOH). I missed this convo, so I dunno. �� Here's the video of Ollie/Dan's convo at the kitchen table:
The Truth Hurts		#8960	[-]
Posts: 2466 (08/22/08 9:41 AM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I really am curious to see Dan & Memphis talk today, I really hope Dan just decides to just put up both Ollie & Michelle. He can secure a deal with Jerry to keep himself safe next week, and then put up Ollie & Michelle, one will go home, and only one person will be coming after him next week.

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