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rugslug		#5221	[-]
Posts: 6852 (07/29/08 3:19 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	glazerboy wrote: Oh ruggy, you are so 90s. Get with the program. I agree. It's time to start looking forward to 2008 election. These Bush Derangement types keep bogging us down in meaningless distractions.
StatelyWayneManor		#5222	[-]
Posts: 7420 (07/29/08 3:21 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I could be wrong but Tim Kaine may have even less experience than Obama. He just really, really wants to win Virginia.
unkle greggo		#5223	[-]
Posts: 2420 (07/29/08 3:25 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	lilnubber wrote: Greggo, you got all bent out of shape when Obama wasn't "patriotic" because he didn't wear a FUCKING LAPEL PIN, but the Bush Administration hires people based not on their merit but on how good their reasons for wanting to "serve George Bush" are, and all you can do is yawn. Um, I don't think I ever said anything about his FUCKING LAPEL PIN, I also defended his comments about the surge, accusations about his religion, and various other rumors, so blow me.
B DeBrun		#5224	[-]
Posts: 17220 (07/29/08 3:31 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Gregoire wrote: This isn't about political appointments. These are 'career attorney' posts. "To understand Monica Goodling's errors and the issue of intent, you should first know that the Justice Department hires both 'political' and 'career' attorneys. And on page 12 of its report, it says: It is not improper to consider political affiliations when hiring for political positions. However, both Department policy and federal law prohibit discrimination in hiring for Department career positions on the basis of political affiliations Cyclical political appointees are different from everyday governmental legal posts. If bias played a part in hiring the latter, you would have a never ending cycle of re-appointments with every political shift in Washington and veers straight into basic discrimination laws. It would essentially be Boss Tweed-era politics. I'm relieved, relieved I tell you that 100% of the replacements for the entire DOJ DA staff fired by Clinton didn't lean one way or another....
merkyl		#5225	[-]
Posts: 56478 (07/29/08 3:31 PM) Registered loser More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So people weren't hired on merit but some other factor? When did we start talking about affirmative action?
lilnubber		#5226	[-]
Posts: 9524 (07/29/08 3:55 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	so blow me. You wish, Greggo.
rugslug		#5227	[-]
Posts: 6853 (07/29/08 3:56 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	merkyl wrote: So people weren't hired on merit but some other factor? When did we start talking about affirmative action? wait! Obama is FOR affirmative action? I thought he was the post racial candidate?
Strange Flute		#5228	[-]
Posts: 2831 (07/29/08 3:57 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Oh good, I missed the 90s. Remember when Clinton balanced the budget and we had a surplus? Remember when the economy was good? Why does Bush always copy the bad things Clinton did and not the good?
unkle greggo		#5229	[-]
Posts: 2421 (07/29/08 3:59 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	lilnubber wrote: so blow me. You wish, Greggo. When you can't argue the point...
Bonestripper		#5230	[-]
Posts: 628 (07/29/08 4:23 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Oh good, I missed the 90s. Remember when Clinton balanced the budget and we had a surplus? Remember when the economy was good? I see fruit wants his conservative congress back
Comrade Jerrifan		#5231	[-]
Posts: 281 (07/29/08 4:47 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I hate my governor, Tim Kaine. He's a Catholic fanatic who promised enforce the death penalty, but suspended it for a while and has commuted a death sentence. He also claimed that gun policy had nothing to do with the Virginia Tech massacre. The only good thing about a VP nom for him would be getting him out of the state.
Ann Margret Thatcher		#5232	[-]
Posts: 6036 (07/29/08 5:03 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So Tim Kaine, that's the chatter? What's the appeal there, is he a fairly conservative Dem?
Gregoire		#5233	[-]
Posts: 28163 (07/29/08 5:10 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So people weren't hired on merit but some other factor? When did we start talking about affirmative action? wait! Obama is FOR affirmative action? I thought he was the post racial candidate? I love it when Heckle and Jeckle are able to so completely distort an issue from the actual facts in just two short posts. Well done!
merkyl		#5234	[-]
Posts: 56480 (07/29/08 5:11 PM) Registered loser More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	You have to look at the root of the issue, not the pretty window dressing. Of course since window dressing is all your candidate is, I'm not surprised.
Strange Flute		#5235	[-]
Posts: 2834 (07/29/08 5:17 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Bonestripper wrote: I see fruit wants his conservative congress back Some credit the Clinton surplus to the fact that he reduced military spending. The CBO says it was the '93 Clinton deficit reduction legislation (OBRA 93, that increased taxes on the super-rich) passed by Dems of the 103rd congress. Republicans opposed the 93 plan with every Rep in congress voting against it. I found some funny Rep quotes about it: "Clearly, this is a job-killer in the short-run. The impact on job creation is going to be devastating."-Rep. Dick Armey, (Republican, Texas) "The tax increase will…lead to a recession…and will actually increase the deficit."-Rep. Newt Gingrich (Republican, Georgia) "I will make you this bet. I am willing to risk the mortgage on it…the deficit will be up; unemployment will be up; in my judgment, inflation will be up."-Sen. Robert Packwood (Republican, Oregon) "The deficit four years from today will be higher than it is today, not lower."-Sen. Phil Gramm (Republican, Texas)
The Virgin Murray		#5236	[-]
Posts: 1303 (07/29/08 5:37 PM) More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Gregoire wrote: This isn't about political appointments. These are 'career attorney' posts. "To understand Monica Goodling's errors and the issue of intent, you should first know that the Justice Department hires both 'political' and 'career' attorneys. And on page 12 of its report, it says: It is not improper to consider political affiliations when hiring for political positions. However, both Department policy and federal law prohibit discrimination in hiring for Department career positions on the basis of political affiliations Who gives a shit? The principle is the same and is ignored routinely. The Supreme Court is a good example that should be above party politics but is nothing but politics. The notion that Democrats are above all this stuff while Republicans are a bunch of hooligans is beneath even you knuckleheads. Last Edited By: The Virgin Murray 07/29/08 5:39 PM. Edited 1 times.
Visa Declined		#5237	[-]
Posts: 2609 (07/29/08 5:44 PM) Registered User More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	a policy of disqualifying people applying for jobs in Homeland Security because they favor gay marriage or the estate tax is treason.
Gregoire		#5238	[-]
Posts: 28166 (07/29/08 6:40 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	"Who gives a shit? " Since the Bush Administration has broken so many other laws, this does seem a little bit small-fry, I see your point.
Pahrump Mania		#5239	[-]
Posts: 1404 (07/29/08 6:52 PM) Registered user More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Bush has gotten us involved in a war that was too expensive to justify, and his "solution" to the high price of drugs for seniors is an expensive disaster. Clinton did cut the military budget, but also benefited greatly from a stock market that went nuts for no good reason. He also had a congress that acted conservatively for a little while. We've been spending too much money for too long, and I think McCain would be the better candidate to control spending, except I doubt that he will cut any military spending. Obama will increase social spending and will hurt job growth with increased taxes. No one will make the needed cuts in every area of the budget. Increased domestic drilling will do a lot more than lower the price of oil, it'll keep hundreds of billions of dollars in the US and create thousands of good paying jobs. The Republicans should hammer the Democrats on this issue.
SurvivorLDog93		#5240	[-]
Posts: 20581 (07/29/08 7:00 PM) Admin/Play-By-Play Guru More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I can see that JeFa and I will agree on the merit of Tim Kaine as a Veep about as much as we agree on everything else.

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JUNEAU - A comedy about running for VP and the bumps along the way.