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highwind44029 |
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Osten definitely was the first to make me lose interest in the game. Jeff Probst getting a little too involved also was a factor.
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getting real |
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BTW, wait, is Survivor ruined? |
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Thailandsurvivor |
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getting real wrote:
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GnarlsInCharge |
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The Rotu 4 + Rob M. = Gabe was just trying to experience the game and they voted him out
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perrocaliente |
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Your mom?
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serendipity smiles |
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1. Julie Berry - turned Jeff from a decent host into a out in front media whore because he realized he could get someone half his age just because he hosted
Survivor. Thanks to her we now have to listen to him dominate the show with his constant talking when we used to be able to just watch the challenges and get
the updates on the bottom of our screen.
2. Rudy Boesch - set the bar for older bumbling men to try their luck because he was charming in his quirkiness on season one but he was just annoying his second time around. Because of him we were subject to unlikeable old people who are completely out of their element in relating to younger people. Examples are Big Tom, Paschal, Yau Man, Papa Smurf, Willard, Jim, Dan. 3. Amber Brkich - vied for Colleen's title in Australia but was just an invisible bore. She gave birth to the cute girls who dominate this show without actually doing anything but getting hormonally challenged men hot enough to do all the work while they float on their backs to the end game. Examples are Brianna, Morgan, Jenna, Heidi, Amanda, Parvati, Ashlee, Jenn, Dolly. 4. Rob Mariano - now every season we have a big mouthed trash talking asshole who thinks he knows everything. Examples are Rocky, Judd, Jason, Mikey B, Fairplay, Robb, Cesternino. 5. Rupert Bonham - overcompensated shoved in our face producer's favorite who they tried to make us love but most of us ended up hating. He gave birth to Big Brother's America's player and stupid bitches like New York. Proof that the producers need to stay out of actual decisions and just throw their money around. |
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Ryan67 |
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Yes, Brianna and Dolly floated so far into end game.
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finishthemoff |
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Don't be dissing Papa Smurf and Willard!!!!
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SwineForkbeard |
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Oowatanite wrote: That's supposed to be a flame? If he really had tapped that in high school, you'd be bowing to him and begging to smell his fingers. |
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spqsc |
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The fact is, women have been in the finals 15/16 times. Men have been in the finals 12/16 times. Of those twelve times, men have only lost three times. Yet women still think they can basically do nothing and go to the end with a man and win. They think they can go to the end while keeping their nice girl images intact by not doing anything and beat a player that screwed people over.X |
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victalac |
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Did someone say "Potato dance"?
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KathyPeedOnMyHand |
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i can't think of one person in particular that personifies it....but Survivor went completely downhill when they started casting all wanna-be models and
actors. i think you call them "mactors" here. i can't stand it.
also, i agree that Amber would be my #2 choice. you do nothing the whole season and then end up winning ASS. she wasn't even supposed to be there, but all of the other hot young girls declined the request. disgusting. |
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van slyker |
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^ Despite earlier mactors like Jenna, Jerri and Ryan A, I think Nicole was the first mactor people grew upset over even being cast (or recruited). She had no
idea where she was or what show she was on, and she made such laughable mistakes the first episode.
John K and the entire Ulong tribe come to mind as well. But IMO, Cook Islands and Fiji just FELT like 40 mactors, when they were mostly just a lot of Californian recruits. |
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Francois40 |
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Amber was the Gabriel Cade of the Outback, a young girl, just out of college, looking for an experience. Yet, Gabe gets nothing but love and Amber gets trashed. Hey, I'll be more than happy to trash Gade. step right up! ...girls who dominate this show without actually doing anything but getting hormonally challenged men hot enough to do all the work while they float on their backs to the end game. Examples are ...Dolly.Yes, I loved how Dolly--who never left an all-female tribe--got those "hormonally-challenged men" to do all her work! |
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melicatsmom |
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If you want to say Survivor is ruined, here are my nominees:
1. Vescepia--because she perfected the strategy of sitting around on your ass for 38 1/2 days so that you don't offend anybody and win. Before her, the people who won actually had to play the game and do something. From her has begat everyone from Jenna (who did nothing more than flash her tits to win) to Amber to Danni to Amanda (who did nothing more than fuck Ozzy to make F2 in Micronesia, and probably would've done the same with Todd in China had he been so inclined), and also begat Katie in Palau, the only Survivor F2 contestant I can remember who didn't even come close to winning a challenge. 2. Osten--for making it easy for people to quit the game. At least he got dissed by Probst in the proper manner when he quit, but since then the real quitters (the ones who ask to be removed, not the ones who are removed for emergencies, i.e.; Skupin/Bruce/Penner) not only have found it easy to quit, they sometimes have been rewarded like Janu when she was allowed to sit on the jury. Now it seems like quitting might be employed as much as a strategy as sitting around on your ass. 3. The pair of Mookie and Rocky, who Jonathan Penner memorably called 'dufi' (plural of doofus) in the CBS blog and thus created one of my favorite words of all time. That word just fit those two. If you add Dreamz to that equation you get the Holy Trinity of Fucktards. 4. The shitwit who conceived of the original ASS without bothering to think pairing winners up with an equal number of also-rans would make the winners dead meat the second they stepped on the beach. It couldn't have been EPMB because he was still around to conceive of Micronesia where the fans had their own tribe and the favorites had theirs and couldn't do serious damage to each other until just before the merge simply because 'he/she has played this game before'. The only flaw to this plan? The collective IQ of the fans was roughly equal to that of the Ulong tribe, which is a fancy way of saying they were a bunch of dumbasses. And since we're on the subject.... 5. The Ulong Tribe, for being stupid. Bobby Jon gets some points from me because he at least figured out Koror was kicking their ass because they were smarter and using strategy in the challenges against them. Their collective IQ is actually lower than the fans tribe in Micronesia, which makes the Holy Trinity of Fucktards look like a bunch of Rhodes Scholars. To this day I love to watch my Palau DVD just to LMAO at the n00bs of Ulong.
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kishuu |
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Jenna played a good game for a female winner (to be honest). She gets trashed for nothing while Danni and Sandra are like goddesses here. Sandra played a very
similar game to Jenna, and she was a horrible strategist. Okay, you make a deal to get rid of an alpha male who could go on an immunity run and then you choose
to align with that same alpha male and the season's villain who screwed you over the previous vote. Sure. Sandra was sitting pretty because she sat out on
most challenges when Drake had the majority. She's loved because she's a feisty bitch unlike Jenna who was a spoilt bitch when both had the exact same
end-game situation.
Danni was invisible and she would've been gone if not for the auction giving her an advantage. Steph was on the road to win immunity and Danni got the chance to swap so yeah... screw producers, immunity challenges should be fair, even. No advantage due to purchasing it during auction, etc. And to the above poster... Vee sat around her ass for 38 1/2 days? She was Rob C's strategy before Rob C even existed. |
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SuperJude |
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Jenna was an annoying twat who expected her clique to make the endgame because they were just so cool, wanted to give up and got lucky she was in a game with
ManTits Rob, Steroid Abusing Sociopath Matt and World Class Strategist Butch Lockley.
On the flip side, that's when I started watching the show with edit in mind so I guess it was a good thing to have such a WTF ending. You got me once Survivor Editors and never since. -SJ™ |
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GnarlsInCharge |
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Thailandsurvivor |
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SuperJude wrote: Hey don't bash Butch. We haven't even had an old guy go crazy since him. |
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ThrowMeGabon |
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First off, I don't think Survivor is ruined. I think it's evolved, devolved, changed, whatever, but not ruined. I went chronologically. Here are the
people that didn't help:
1. Amber/Nick: The first ever filler players. AKA "Under the radar". Players that no one could empathize with. Sure S1 had a bunch of strategic pussies, but they were ALL personalities...and since Season 2 there have been fillers in growing numbers every season. Only slowing down around China... 2. Kim J: The first time I realized you don't have to have any physical, mental, or social skill to get to the final 2, just luck pre-merge and weakness post-merge. Not a good realization to have. 3. Vecepia: The first person to win where the viewer couldn't understand why or how they won. Who knows if it was sloppy editing, lack of charisma on Vee's part, or what. But damn that was a frustrating finale...and since we've seen numerous WTF winners. 4. 3/4ths of the Survivor: Thailand Cast: I know it's supposed to be a single player, but when the nearly the entire cast has the personality of one person I think it's fair. Not sure if it was the editors or the cast again, but this season was the first one where people started talking cancellation. I give props to machiavellian Brian, batty Jan, Shii Ann...even Robbbbb. But that cast blew. A turning point for Survivor; A majority of cast fillers. 5. Amber pt. deux: Absolutely annihilated Survivor for me. So much so that it left a sour taste in my mouth for the following 3-4 seasons. To begin, as #1 points out, Amber was the very first filler player. Why that warrants going anywhere NEAR an All-Stars game is beyond me. We know it's because of dropouts and such, but I literally would've put her right above S1's Stacy for the call. But what follows is even more monstrous. Nearly every player worth caring about demolished pre-merge, every other character worth caring about pagonged post-merge. She had no moves to call her own the entire game, she let Rob do her dirty work. Somehow everyone was a big enough dumbass to let an admitted couple make F2, no suspense for a winner, and the less deserving person took it home thanks to bitter jury. I can't think of a bigger trainwreck of a season, and most of it stems from Amber. Should've put in Sandra, Jenna, Christy, both Kellys....the list goes on and on...
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