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CatLurvesDorothy		#201	[-]
Posts: 92 (06/17/08 5:10 PM) OMEDETO, CATHY!! Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Actually, it was Ali.
Screerider		#202	[-]
Posts: 21923 (06/17/08 5:14 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Okay... 666 is from the Book of Revelation. So, one possible substitution would be this: sREVELATION - LIAr = sEVETON => SEVEN TO => 72... the same address as the laundry mat. So clearly, Matt is the Mole.
TAR Addict		#203	[-]
Posts: 264 (06/17/08 5:22 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	You mean Mark?
Screerider		#204	[-]
Posts: 21924 (06/17/08 5:26 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Whoever heard of washing your clothes at a laundry mark? Here's another one... a "Lia" is an Irish stone. Keeping REVELATION: sREVELATION - STONEr = EVLAI => ALIVE So, the Mole is not Dead.
Will		#205	[-]
Posts: 29290 (06/17/08 5:47 PM) Not a Registered User anymore Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MaddieG wrote: Really good consolidation of the possible sabotage and actions of each person, ComeWhatMay. I'm pretty sure you can forget the "El Topo" clue, however, because animals are always masculine in Spanish and don't change gender (i.e,, el perro, el gato whether you have a boy doggy/kitty or a girl). I think you're confusing the gender rules. Plurals are always masculine if there's at least one male. Some words can not be changed for gender (such as Boricua is always Boricua there is no Boricuo) but I know perra and gata do exist. Of course that doesn't mean you can incorrectly call a female cat male since unless you know the gender you'll automatically use the masculine but if the mole was writing it, they should be using the correct version.
seltzer3		#206	[-]
Posts: 873 (06/17/08 7:33 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Something I found really odd. In the execution, when someone already has their name put in (and they got a green thumprint), they have a green outline surrounding their box. I'm guessing that it indicates that they are safe. However, in this week Paul had a green outline and his name wasn't even put in.
werewolf bar mitzvah		#207	[-]
Posts: 2 (06/17/08 8:21 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	EmoKain wrote: During the task where they had to look for clothes, I swear I saw Nicole standing with a wall in the background with "mole" and an arrow pointing towards her. Do my eyes deceive me? Oh, and regarding that s666 - LIAr clue. During the first execution when they cut to Nicole on the beach, warming her hands by the fire... totally looked like she was the devil or something. And look! A shell necklace. This scene always struck me, what's with the earphones also? Maybe she's getting insider mole info heh. I thought this reminded me of the statue they show before the quiz. I went back and took some screen caps. Maybe. But even better: the last shot of the statue before the fade into Nicole taking the quiz. The hand is in a position like it's handling money, referring to the mole's bribe. And Nicole's hand on the mouse mimics the statue. Last Edited By: werewolf bar mitzvah 06/17/08 8:23 PM. Edited 1 times.
HaroldBalzaccio		#208	[-]
Posts: 5962 (06/17/08 9:27 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ComeWhatMay wrote: Okay, I've been lurking forever, since the old days. Anyways, I'd seen someone posting stuff along the lines of these clues on another board, but didn't really seem to add it all up. Anyhow, there's been random numbers in each episode. Episode 1: Boat #810 Episode 2: Hotel Room #723 Episode 3: Locker #69 Just remember these for now. Now, going along with all of the religous imagery we've been seeing, turn to your Bibles. Or visit www.biblegateway.com if you're a horrible dirty sinner and don't have one. Two major characters in the Bible are named Paul and Mark. We're going to be dealing in the book of Mark, here. Taking the numbers into account... Mark 8:10 (from Boat #810) "He got into the boat with his twelve disciples and went to the region of Dalmanutha." (The contestants were getting onto a boat... and there's twelve...) Mark 7:23 (from Room #723) "All these evils come from inside and make a man 'unclean.'" (This one is vague. Maybe the mole is evil? Or pigs = unclean?) Mark 6:9 (from Locker #69) "Wear sandals but not an extra tunic." (During the clothing challenge, it was pointed out they get their shoes... but no shirts...) I'll let you guys do the math, but this line of clues has me a little bit captivated and thinking Mark is the mole. Which makes me mad because Mark just doesn't seem like the mole to me. Furthermore, I can't see ABC revealing the hidden clues by saying "Well, if you look in the Bible..." Just a thought. Interesting.
seltzer3		#209	[-]
Posts: 874 (06/17/08 9:43 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Also, in the intro when it flashes "One winner" there is a figure of a tall slender lady. Does Kristen win?
yfnomo.molehypogroup	Mark has 666	#210	[-]
Posts: 13 (06/18/08 1:12 AM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Mark 6:45-52 = Walking on water. Remember Jon walking on water at the falls? The book of Mark has 666 verses. hmmmmm.......
Screerider		#211	[-]
Posts: 21925 (06/18/08 11:17 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	yfnomo wrote: The book of Mark has 666 verses. hmmmmm....... Which version?
BlondeLobster		#212	[-]
Posts: 432 (06/18/08 11:59 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	MaddieG wrote: I'm pretty sure you can forget the "El Topo" clue, however, because animals are always masculine in Spanish and don't change gender (i.e,, el perro, el gato whether you have a boy doggy/kitty or a girl). La grúa y la girafa La liebre y la tortuga That said, there is indeed no feminine form of topo. Also noteworthy: "topo" in Spanish is used to describe a bumbling type of person.
ShanSlam		#213	[-]
Posts: 58 (06/18/08 12:08 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Screerider wrote: yfnomo wrote: The book of Mark has 666 verses. hmmmmm....... Which version? That's a good question, Screerider. the Book of Mark has some controversy around it, especially the last twelve verses. Modern Bibles contain the last twelve verses bringing the total number to 678 but there is legitimate questions if those verses are, in fact, part of the original manuscript. Therefore, the number of "legitimate" verses would be 666. http://catholic-resources.org/Bible/NT-Statistics-Greek.htm
Screerider		#214	[-]
Posts: 21929 (06/18/08 12:21 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Ah, but the footnote that tosses out the 12 (16:9-20), also impugns 5 more (7:16; 9:44, 46; 11:26; 15:28) making 661 verses. (And Wikipedia, that bastion of unchanging facts, says Mark has 662 verses.)
WylDawg		#215	[-]
Posts: 15665 (06/18/08 1:09 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The Mole is Clay, people! Stop looking at all the insignificant clues, it's all in the editing. Whenever somebody screws up or acts suspicious, there's always somebody who bitches about it immidiately in a confessional. But when Clay does something really obvious like dropping out of the clothes challenge, people barely even blinked and it pretty much got swept under the table. It was the same thing with Kathryn and Bill. They would do something obvious to sabotage the game and people barely discussed it. But whenever someone else screwed up it was "ZOMG!! THAT IS SO SUSPICIOUS!!!!" Now, does that mean the contestant are just stupid? Of course not. Whenever the Mole sabotages, there has to be a lot of discussions and confessionals about it amongst them, but the show however hides it from us to divert our attention. Besides, the whole refusing to walk around town half naked thing, didn't that just reek of season 2?
LeithAnne		#216	[-]
Posts: 3 (06/18/08 2:48 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I can't go anywhere with this. Maybe someone else can. s666 = Essexs or Essex's. Unfortunately, it was Essex and Elizabeth, not Essex and Victoria. Bummer. I really thought I had something there.
GodIsAnAtheist		#217	[-]
Posts: 4192 (06/18/08 9:00 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	WylDawg wrote: The Mole is Clay, people! Stop looking at all the insignificant clues, it's all in the editing. Whenever somebody screws up or acts suspicious, there's always somebody who bitches about it immidiately in a confessional. But when Clay does something really obvious like dropping out of the clothes challenge, people barely even blinked and it pretty much got swept under the table. It was the same thing with Kathryn and Bill. They would do something obvious to sabotage the game and people barely discussed it. But whenever someone else screwed up it was "ZOMG!! THAT IS SO SUSPICIOUS!!!!" Now, does that mean the contestant are just stupid? Of course not. Whenever the Mole sabotages, there has to be a lot of discussions and confessionals about it amongst them, but the show however hides it from us to divert our attention. Besides, the whole refusing to walk around town half naked thing, didn't that just reek of season 2? Don't forget that he's black, and after 2 white Moles, the producers have to have a black Mole in order to comply with equal opportunity laws.
cyclehausen		#218	[-]
Posts: 4348 (06/18/08 9:55 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Which is why Michael Boatman and Dennis Rodman were such good Moles.
Redhead9015		#219	[-]
Posts: 727 (06/18/08 10:14 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Clay was my pre-season pick just because I thought we were due for a black male mole. He's still on my suspect list.
ShanSlam		#220	[-]
Posts: 59 (06/18/08 11:03 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I came across some "nuts and bolts" info that I wanted to share about Nicole. I discovered this by looking at the timestamps of the images taken during ep1 (which are on the www.abcmedianet.com website). It's pretty interesting... Nicole appears to have been seperated from the other players for longer than the editing showed, In fact, she was apparently on the beach for longer than 36 hours! The timestamps on the website indicate that the "Robinson Crusoe" challenge took place on the late afternoon of March 31st. However, the execution didn't take place until the early-early morning of April 2nd where we saw, among other things, Nicole on the Molevision screen broadcasting from the beach. That means Nicole was seperated from the group for at least a day and a half because she still spent the rest of the night out there! That's two nights sleeping on that beach! ! A player really has to be on the ball to recover from that kind of "information" loss. That either impresses me with her playing ability...or is she just the Mole and something like this doesn't matter!?! Which then makes me wonder about that shot of her in the Molevision screen...didn't it look kind of staged? I mean, we never saw her actually on the beach! The camera was shooting up through the flames of a "campfire" and the background was completeyl dark. She could have been in a studio someplace for all we know. If the editing is true, she spent a long boring day and a half (two nights) out there. Would the Mole producers actually put a contestant through that? Or would they rig up a "production" shot that gave the impression she was actually there, while she was really staying at a nice hotel some place? We know the video of her during the execution ceremony was a live shot because she responded to Jon Kelley's questions. It just seems really odd to me now...about this whole thing...

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