Top Chef 4: Like yesterday's cranberry foam it's over.

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Screerider		#1701	[-]
Posts: 21837 (06/06/08 12:14 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Usually concepts are treated more importantly than execution, as the judges are aware the conditions are not ideal. If a chef almost pulls off a good idea, they let it pass (like Lisa's tostone). But if it's a bad idea from the get-go (like Antonia's plating), they're much less forgiving.
beefjerkyboy		#1702	[-]
Posts: 2545 (06/06/08 12:28 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Drew B wrote: victalac wrote: Antonia lost because of plating? PLATING??!! The plating wasn't a cosmetic issue. It came down to the overall conceptualization of her food. By plating them together, they stopped being three discrete dishes and became a plate of indistinguishable buffet slop. I think it's a completely valid reason. Oh, that and she undercooked her beans. But she likes her beans al dente, dammit! I like Richard sometimes, like when he said he had failed at a lot of things in his life and didn't want to fail at this, but I'm hoping for a Stephanie win. I liked that she gave credit to Dale when talking about her dishes this round. It is amazing to me that Lisa can be second worst every week and still be there with a chance of winning. I can't imagine they'd let her win for any reason. It would embarass the show and everyone involved pretty badly.
Screerider		#1703	[-]
Posts: 21838 (06/06/08 12:48 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Anyhow the reason given by the judges as to why Antonia lost to Lisa was that Lisa's table was more popular. So she lost because of popularity, not plating.
ShirleyYouJest		#1704	[-]
Posts: 510 (06/06/08 1:09 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Ohhhh I don't believe that about the table popularity. Lisa is licking or sucking something in order to keep her there. That's all there is to it!
f2goat		#1705	[-]
Posts: 157 (06/06/08 5:46 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	cabanachat wrote: I think it's very telling that, for the first time in my memory for any Bravo reality show, there's been absolutely no MENTION of a reunion episode prior to the final showdown. Either Miss Thing's apparent conflict with Richard or her general alienation of all those around her throughout the whole show must have been so severe that even Bravo couldn't risk a reunion, OR they did indeed have one and it was so nasty they just couldn't carve out a good hour's worth of footage so they're just pretending like it never happened. Given the popularity of the reunion shows, I can't think of much other reason for the omission. My TV listings on the Internet have a Reunion show scheduled for Wed June 18 with the title "Watch What Happens Reunion". As for Richard's comment, I have another theory: if the chefs get eliminated contestants as sous chefs again, suppose that Lisa (with her penchant for blaming other people) tries to blame the sous chefs for some debacle with her food. I could see Richard saying something snarky about how Lisa didn't even deserve to be a finalist - he'd be saying that the sous chef was better than Lisa and should not have been eliminated before her. For example, suppose it's a knife pull and Lisa draws Dale. That's instant fireworks, Dale will probably tell Lisa that something she's planning won't work, Lisa will blame Dale, and Richard might say that Dale was more deserving of the finals than Lisa was.
RobertBestBarbie		#1706	[-]
Posts: 989 (06/06/08 8:51 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Or possibly, in the above scenario, Richard simply defends the sous chef, without directly throwing Lisa under the bus?
CatNamedRudy		#1707	[-]
Posts: 1553 (06/06/08 8:54 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Lisa SHOULD be thrown under a bus. I hope to hell Richard does make some noise about what a bitch she is and how she has consistently in the bottom group and somehow managed to be in the F3 instead of at least 2 other chefs who were decidedly better! (Dale and Antonia). Stephanie FTW!
Cuauhtemoc Gilmore		#1708	[-]
Posts: 12383 (06/06/08 10:46 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Lisa is this season's Ilan.
cabanachat		#1709	[-]
Posts: 2807 (06/06/08 10:53 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	RobertBestBarbie wrote: Or possibly, in the above scenario, Richard simply defends the sous chef, without directly throwing Lisa under the bus? Given what we've seen thus far, the bus might suffer more than Lisa would. Interesting that they're doing a reunion show AFTER the finale. Thanks for pointing that out, although it's almost more intriguing than none at all. Is there a precedent for this I'm forgetting?
CoconutPhone		#1710	[-]
Posts: 13628 (06/07/08 12:45 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I was shocked when Lisa was spared over Antonia but I saw it coming a few seconds before as Paddy was looking in her direction before the 'pack your knives' line. Her whining for a congratz was hilariously lame and only topped with Steph's completely insincere response. Loved it. Can't wait to watch Lisa just get her ass handed to her by Steph/Richard.
RobertBestBarbie		#1711	[-]
Posts: 990 (06/07/08 7:34 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	As much as I would love to see Lisa thrown under the bus, I'd sincerely hate to see Richard be the one to do it. He and Stephanie have been pure class all season long, and although I know it has to suck to see their worthier friends and competitors continually sent packing while Lisa's nasty ass stays, I don't want them to turn now.
merryz93		#1712	[-]
Posts: 857 (06/07/08 7:56 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Please just throw that sour faced Lisa under the bus and run her over not one time but over and over again! Antonia got robbed big time with this weird competition. They tell them in one breath to make it Puerto Rican and then to tantalize them with another cuisine. For one time Antonia messed up and with that she took the loss. I really don't appreciate watching Lisa going up week after week in the final two with her arms crossed in front of her like she's ready to fight and then finally relaxing that she's not going to go away. She's conceited and a bitch! You don't like me, I'm not in your club! Boo-Hoo!!!! Richard and Steph for the win.
Savvy Ignoramus		#1713	[-]
Posts: 939 (06/07/08 9:36 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Do you think Lisa would fit under the bus anyway?
chelleforrupert		#1714	[-]
Posts: 8673 (06/07/08 9:57 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I like the Richard theory. I don't think he directly says outright the words that Bitchface is not worthy; I think he describes her kitchen behavior accurately through the eyes of a collegue.
daggers44		#1715	[-]
Posts: 714 (06/07/08 10:09 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	That Lisa bitch is still in it?!
Kirblar		#1716	[-]
Posts: 6297 (06/07/08 11:41 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	or one time Antonia messed up and with that she took the loss. Antonia fucked up huge before, remember when she railroaded her team to defeat when she had immunity?
chel87		#1717	[-]
Posts: 1926 (06/08/08 1:31 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	f2goat wrote: chel87 wrote: GameShowMyAss wrote: tard - it's oh-mazsh not homm-idge fuck OFF richard GO LISA Nope. Richard pronounced it right. I learned when that stupid ass Tyra pronouned it the same way and just before I started my petition to get that illiterate idiot off the tv (ok, before I came here to make fun of her for it).. I decided to make sure. Miriam Webster has it pronounced like "Hommage".. though I did find other sites that pronounce it the way you and I do. The way it should be pronounced. Believe me when I tell you it's MUCH worse being wrong up against Tyra than it is Blaze :P Yes, it's definitely either. And I personally tend to pronounce it differently depending on context. 1. "He paid homage to the king." - HA-midge 2. "That movie is an homage to Hitchcock" - oh-MAJ So I guess I accent the first syllable when it's a noun and the second syllable when it's adjectival? But in Richard's context I would have used oh-MAJ. Using your examples- I now wonder if it doesn't have to do with tenses? On a side note- this is the first time I've ever been involved with a grammar lesson at sucks where the "you fucking idiot" sentiment wasn't invoked :P
Mar1848		#1718	[-]
Posts: 788 (06/08/08 1:39 AM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Kirblar wrote: or one time Antonia messed up and with that she took the loss. Antonia fucked up huge before, remember when she railroaded her team to defeat when she had immunity? That is when my dislike of her kicked up a notch. I'm really glad she was finally eliminated.
chel87		#1719	[-]
Posts: 1927 (06/08/08 1:39 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ShirleyYouJest wrote: Ohhhh I don't believe that about the table popularity. Lisa is licking or sucking something in order to keep her there. That's all there is to it! That's what I thought too Shirley- who the fuck is she blowing and why can't they do better? But then I thought, whoever it is can do better so instead of going with the casting couch theory- I think she's got some dirt on someone. Who has she been snottiest to out of the judges? Did she see Tom in the storage room with the Queer Eye judge? or maybe Padma didn't do a very good tucking job one day? :P I kid- although I didn't like Padma on the first season, she's actually gained credibility with me and after seeing her on Chelsea Lately- I like her even more.
chel87		#1720	[-]
Posts: 1928 (06/08/08 1:44 AM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	You have to figure that the outpouring of disgust across the internet probably bothers Lisa more than if she had been eliminated. But maybe not- part of her unlikeablity is her inate ability to not accept an ounce of responsibility for her fuck ups so like many others before her- she'll blame it on the editing.

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