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recyclehumans wrote:

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If Edit: For the Micronesia F6, if it was a 3-3 tie between Parvati and Alexis and Amanda played the idol, then Amanda would've been safe against rocks, as well as Erik, Parvati and Alexis. Rock-drawing would only happen between Cirie and Natalie.

I don't understand why it would come down to rocks if Amanda plays the idol. Think the idol should take precedence. I didn't read and pick apart that whole thing but it can't be intended that way and if it reads that way it's a mistake. They could have a re-vote, Cirie and Parvati change their votes to Amanda, tie broken, HII kills 5 votes for Amanda and Alexis gets vote off 1-0.

Just let them have fire challenges. If it goes on for hours, who cares. Most of the times they're bored anyway, it will give them something to do, bet on the challenge,

Production can make a change to the rules on the spot and make them do a fire challenge if they want, but on paper as written and signed by everyone, final six with a hidden immunity idol being played and a forced tie results in two people drawing rocks.

grodney wrote:

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recyclehumans wrote:

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If it's a 10-way tie (and in that case, I assume you mean while on a tribe, because a 10-way tie with only 1 vote each is impossible in the individual stage), then everyone revotes.

Edit: For the Micronesia F6, if it was a 3-3 tie between Parvati and Alexis and Amanda played the idol, then Amanda would've been safe against rocks, as well as Erik, Parvati and Alexis. Rock-drawing would only happen between Cirie and Natalie.

Your first paragraph: There is nothing in the rules (Kathy posted) that indicates what would happen in the event of a 10-way tie.

Your second paragraph: There is nothing in the rules (Kathy posted) that indicates that Amanda would be safe against the rocks.

I should know better than to argue with short bus riders, but...

If there is a tie between Contestants, then a second vote may be conducted in which all non-eliminated Contestants at the Tribal Council (other than the tied Contestants) must vote to eliminate one of such tied Contestant. This voting process may continue until one and only one Contestant is chosen for elimination. If, however, there is a deadlock in the voting as determined by the Producer in its sole discretion

Translation: if everyone is tied (like a 10-way tie on a tribe), then everyone is non-eliminated, but everyone is also tied. This effectively renders the vote nullified and requires a revote to determine either a majority or a plurality... or, at the very least, break down the tie to an isolated number of players. Revoting continues as many times as production wishes until production says "okay, hold up, time to talk...", and only at their discretion.


And Amanda would be exempt from rock-drawing. You're playing major semantics with the "all votes cast for Amanda do not count" line and it doesn't apply. Anyone who earns an immunity is exempt from having to participate in rock-drawing -- and a hidden immunity idol applies. It operates under the same guidelines as a challenge-based immunity, except it's played after the votes are cast. It doesn't mean "oh, votes are thrown out as if they were never cast". It means those votes are valid, but don't apply due to immunity. Long story short -- Amanda is immune, Amanda doesn't pick a rock.