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New respect for Chris |
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Erik fucked up with 4 other women. Chris D from Vanuatu owned with 6 other women. I think people dont rate him high enough. EASILY the best Survivor. After
rewatching S9, he played it perfect
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Nah the women were just weak
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doc |
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Seeing as how they all hated each other sure helped. But Eliza has really matured in the past 4 years. All it would have taken is "Ami, I hear you want
to vote me out." and Twila's plan is dead.
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garblue |
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What exactly did Chris do to facilitate the break-up of the women? What did he do that wouldn't have happended without him?
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I always have respect for Chris.
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Spanky Hot Dog |
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Chris owns. Best winner ever. No doubt.
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Mister Plum |
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^ Nah. Don't exaggerate things.
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z2zcommish |
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he clearly is the best ever
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garblue wrote: Yes, because with no men around, the women would HAVE TO turn on one another. Unless you're saying that Leann would've gone home without Chris' help, which is total bullshit. Scout and Twila came up with the plan, but they had no relationship with Eliza, who they needed. Without Chris, Eliza would've gone home and Scout/Twila would've been screwed. |
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Thursdayswiththefam |
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I agree that he benefitted by being surrounded by Scout & Twila who had flawed strategic abilities at best and Eliza & Julie who were just immature at
the time. He also benefitted from not being voted off by the men after the very first immunity challenge!
He did what he should have done as the women's alliance imploded: sit, watch & say nothing. But in the end he was very, very lucky. And even with the very best strategic game he could muster, I don't see him lasting in any other season. In a few seasons, a person didn't have to be that good of a player to win. He gets credit for winning, but let's not get carried away. |
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Bobby Jon goes apeshit |
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The thing that always bugs me, is why do people accept the word of someone of who's head is on the chopping block over someone who had been loyal and
protecting for 30 days. Same thing this year with Ozzie believing Jason about Ami. Both accusations were true, but don't they even consider that Chris
and Jason might be lying?
All Eliza needs to do is confront Ami, Ami realizes Twila is playing her, Twila is gone followed by Scout and Chris. |
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CSCin3D |
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I still hate the fat fuck as a person, but I have a newfound respect for his game. He played pretty much flawlessly. He worked EVERYBODY on that island, from
creating the Fat 5 and outcasting the younger men, to forming a new bond with Twila and then Scout, to pretending to be nice so the women would want to keep
him around longer than Eliza, to taking advantage of that situation to make it to the endgame, to completely bullshitting the jury and getting away with it.
Definitely top 3 winner in terms of strategy, entertainment, and storyline.
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doc wrote: You mean Erik not Jason yw
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SenseiKreese |
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Since you guys are talking about Chris, I thought you might like to read a phone interview I did with him a while back. This was posted at Sucks about a year
ago. He liked my Funny 115 website so his wife Lorie talked him into having a phone conversation with me. There is a lot of stuff here he hasn't talked
about in any other interview.
http://survivorsucks.yuku.com/topic/1008 |
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TW After Life |
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Chris was laffos, I loved every minute of his win.
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GelEGuy2 |
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Chris is one of my least-favorite winners. He was going to walk the plank blindly, had Twila not come around to save his large ass.
Worse, he gets negative points for unnecessarily burning bridges with Eliza and Julie (i.e., lying to them when he really didn't have to, twisting the knives in their backs with his smug looks when they got their torches snuffed, etc.) The only good strategic move he made was taking Twila rather than Scout to the finals with him (freaking Dreamz, Erik, or Jason could've made that choice, though). |
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His face looks like a canned ham that was dropped on the sidewalk.
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Jack Tourette |
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CSCin3D wrote: I usually disagree with you but big red ecks on this one. |
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Sole Survivor Genius |
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Here are a couple of relevant tidbits from my Chris interview thread:
* Speaking of his famous red tank top, Chris said that wasn't even his shirt in the first place. When he packed it in his bag, it was just a plain old red T-shirt. But the night before they started filming, the production team cut off the sleeves and the neckhole and turned it into a tank top. Chris's theory was that the producers just wanted all the players to freeze out there. But yeah, that was never even his wifebeater in the first place. * Chris shared some interesting gossip about the Yasur tribe. He said that Leeann was the real mastermind behind that whole women's alliance. It wasn't Ami. In fact, if anything, Ami was covering for Leeann by intentionally putting herself out there as "the bad guy." Leeann was the player who was really calling the shots. That sort of changes the entire way you look at Vanuatu, now, doesn't it? * The popular stance among internet fans is that "Twila got robbed" and "Twila would have won if the jury had a chance to vote again." Chris told me that this subject even came up when the Vanuatu cast was recording the commentary for the DVD. Apparently things got so heated among the cast that they actually had to stop the recording and settle down before things got out of control. And it was at this point that the jury decided to vote again. Since most of them were there in the commentary room, they decided to test Twila's theory that she would have won if the jury had a chance to vote again. And guess what? Not only did Chris win this time too, he actually won by one more vote. He won in the revote, 6-1, because Scout switched her vote to Chris. So just keep that in mind before you spout off that Twila got robbed in Vanuatu. Chris also won the unofficial "revote." * The scene where Chris begs Eliza to vote off LeeAnn was apparently much, much longer and much more detailed than they showed on TV. He had to do a lot of convincing because Eliza was scared to death that Twila and Scout were going to come back and betray her. The only logic that Chris could use at all was by saying, "If you don't vote for LeeAnn, you're going to go home tonight instead." That reasoning finally worked. * A lot of people give Chris flak because "Twila had to tell him to go talk to Eliza." The general consensus is that if Twila hadn't told Chris about the Eliza plan, the game never would have flipped around and Ami or Leeann would have go on to win the game. I actually asked Chris about this, and he explained it to me. He said yeah Twila had the idea to flip the game around, but she never could have done it without Chris's help. Twila and Scout had done such a bad job of burning their bridges with Eliza, that they couldn't do anything without Chris as the key. He was the only one who could have gotten her to flip, because he was the only one who had a working relationship with her. So that's how Chris explained it to me. He said "It was like Twila had this safe full of money. But she knew I was the only one who had the combination. She couldn't have done anything without me." |
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