The seraphim says Que Sera Sera? (Whatever will be, will be. The futures not ours to see, que sera, sera.)
The futures not ours to see tells it all.
The futures not ours to see tells it all.
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Survivor Phoenix Clue
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 Jacare15 |
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Posts: 1120 (05/09/08 10:45 PM) Registered User |
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 GrenadeJumper85 |
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Posts: 4692 (05/09/08 10:53 PM) |
So SP has no clue what is going to happen?
I doubt that. |
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Jacare15 |
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Posts: 1121 (05/09/08 10:55 PM) Registered User |
I was thinking more along the lines of the Survivors not knowing the future.
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survivorscanner |
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Posts: 56 (05/09/08 11:25 PM) |
the witches card is on many clues. i read about the wicked musical in wikipedia and it says that the green witch doesn't die she fakes dying to fake out
the angry mob. maybe angry jury is the angry mob from the wicked musical but pavarti wins anyway?
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sunflower101 |
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Posts: 1328 (05/09/08 11:32 PM) |
GrenadeJumper85 wrote: Could the Wolf in sheep's clothing be Parvati. Jason made comments in his interviews that Parvati was using Alexis/Natalie. James in one of the insider clips said that he thought Alexis/Parvati where running the female alliance. This was right after Ozzy was blindsided. Cire is the one really running the show, but Parvati takes the blame at the end. I am not saying that Parvati hasn't played a good game, but will probably be blamed more then Cire in front of a jury. Parvati will get a lot of angry questions with the jury. The thorn I think means that either Parvati betrays somebody still in the game. It could be that Amanda doesn't go to the end like everyone thinks or there is a big deal made about Parvati voting out Natalie. |
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jacneald |
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Posts: 791 (05/09/08 11:46 PM) Registered User |
Wolf in sheep's clothing is Cirie to me.
Parvati and Amanda are known players. Cirie pretty much stays in the background as the leader of the wolfpack while the others rip the prey to shreds. What the hell do I know. I've had insomnia for too long and my brain is a mess. Cirie or Amanda winning would be satisfying to me. The fact that Parvati did not even look for the HII was too presumptious. She did not respect the game at that point. She also was shown calling Erik stupid (he was). I like the edit that Cirie and Amanda have had so far. I've never really liked Parvati as a player. Too smug with herself. |
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DevilChild255 |
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Posts: 163 (05/10/08 12:37 AM) |
Intriguing views, mind if I join the party? lol
I'm thinking that the trick to these clues is just to take everything at face value so here's my stab at it (combining my thoughts with all your views) So first, clicking on the heading "Face Cards from the House of Cards" takes us to the house of falling cards with the caption "it tells a story". That's straightforward and as has been mentioned, just means that the 8 cards tells the reader a story, presumably the basics of the post merge game. Of the 8 cards, first we have the witches from the musical wicked and the caption "two friends". In stories, the introduction lays the groundwork for the rest of the story and I'm inclined to treat this card the same way. The story, aka the post merge game, mainly revolves around Amanda and Parvati. Next is the Seraph card, que sera sera (what will be, will be). My view on this is that God is played by Cirie and Parv/Amanda are the two Seraphs....and que sera sera, I see it as Cirie being the mastermind dictating the game with Parv/Amanda's help.... notice how whatever plans Cirie hatches inevitably happen (what will be, will be). However, though she's the god-like figure, she cant do things alone, thus once again highlighting Amanda/Parv's importance. The next clue, idols idols and more idols show how the three of them use the HIIs to their advantage by blindsiding player after player. I think that the next three-four clues intertwine. The torch, "fire is life" and the idol "immunity" I take as literally meaning that in the game of Survivor, the only way to guarantee that its not your torch being snuffed is if you have immunity. Then the wolf in sheep's clothing I see as pointing to Cirie, the brilliant strategist, she acts like she's no threat and fools everybody else but in reality she's deadly. And last of the 4 cards is the Emperor's New Clothes (worshipping false gods). From reading about it (<3 Wiki), its referencing somebody who's either stupid or doesn't deserve to be in a particular position. Erik, anybody? Piecing the 4 clues together, we have the wolf in sheep's clothing, Cirie, hatching a successful plan to oust Erik, who honestly didn't deserve to be in the finals (yes, I'm being subjective, but the kid's an idiot...Can anybody really argue that he deserved to get as far as he did when he was such a naive moron? end rant)..... seems to fit the bill. And the story, till there, is what us viewers have watched up till now. That leaves the finale and the last clue is a picture of thorns and the caption "what hurts".... My guess is the same as everybody else's... either referencing a blindside or a very bitter jury. I'd agree with whoever posted that it could've been referring to the injuries... but then it wouldn't fit into my little story, lol. I'm preparing to get ripped into, lol |
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sunflower101 |
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Posts: 1335 (05/10/08 1:12 AM) |
So what is your story? The finale clues already are going to have a bitter jury. Ozzy is going to lay into Parvati pretty good from the clues. Parvati might
blindside either Amanda or Natalie. The editing hasn't really suggested that Parvati voting out Natalie would be a huge blindside (based on thursday's
show). It could be a huge blindside if she votes out Amanda the jury threat. Erik made a comment about it being really weird that Parvati/Natalie are suddenly
so close in one of his interviews. Could the editors suddenly play it up to claim that Natalie was blindsided.
I do think that Amanda makes the final 2. However Parvati would be part of a huge blindside if she takes out Amanda. It was played up a lot that Parvati was loyal during the Alexis boot. |
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Kathy Fan 2 |
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Posts: 4627 (05/10/08 4:32 AM) Registered user |
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Relynn |
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Posts: 563 (05/10/08 4:40 AM) Registered user |
Couldn't Que sera, sera mean that it's a really close vote and so they can' tell for sure who wins. Because it's When I was just a little girl
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birdlady |
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Posts: 1286 (05/10/08 7:07 AM) Registered user |
I think the Ozzlet's mother wins:
When I was young, I fell in love. |
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Terrywins |
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Posts: 720 (05/10/08 5:25 PM) Registered User |
I don't know if this has been mentioned but, on the phoenix website they have the picture of the two witches and a caption that says, we know that
there's blame to share. when you click on the picture it shows the vidcap from the beginning of the season with parv amanda all dolled up and close up in
what looks like shots that were taken after the game is over
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Posts: 87 (05/10/08 7:14 PM) |
Also when you click the witch pic that takes you to the one that shows Parv/Amanda, it also shows a long view of Ozzy, James, Eliza, Cirie, Amanda and Parv - the 6 favs that made the merge... could that have any significance? caption is "They Wouldn't. Would They?"
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Seraphaem |
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Posts: 461 (05/11/08 12:50 AM) |
GrenadeJumper85 wrote: The "baaah wolf" sounds an awful lot like "Beowulf" when spoken aloud. Perhaps a reading of "The Lay of the Last Survivor"
from this famous poem is in order?
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meshell2241 |
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Posts: 1 (05/11/08 4:45 AM) |
I had been looking for that top card and possible meanings for the card. Here is what I found out. The top card is called "the Chariot" in the
spoiler. Here is the meaning that I found for the card;
Positional main meaning: The situation feels like it is veering out of control, at the same time you are feeling trapped. The card in the blocks position points to self undermining tendencies, areas where you can be in denial, where you could get stuck-unless you can examine yourself and make some corrections. When the Chariot appears in this position, you may feel like you are springing out of a cage in which you were contained too for long. Now that you have launched yourself on this journey, you may feel that you have moved too fast, gone too far too soon. You feel as if you are hurling through space, without the ability to keep all the energies under control. The wheels are rolling fast in unfamiliar territory. Don't panic. Tune back into your primary focus and you will be able to rein in those wild horses. What once felt like a fun adventure now might feel like a wild ride. Find ways to quell your fears and proceed with confidence. In truth, you are capable of keeping up with everything that is going on around you. You just have to find your course and steer it. Hope that helps any guessers out there. I have been looking for that card for awhile actually, since I saw it at the beginning of the season. It seems all the spoilers point to F3 being Cirie, Amanda and Parvati. I am hoping for a Cirie win. We know that both Parv and Cirie feel reluctant to take Amanda to the F2. We have heard them talk about it throughout the show. My guess is its going to be a Cirie/Parv F2 and I am hoping(praying) that I picked right for Cirie to win it all. She has masterminded the game since Yau got booted off. When she said last week at the voting booth, "my mother always told me you may not win with these(and pointed to her muscles) but you can always win this this(and pointed to her head)" I thought she, is surely extremely clever and I think I may have picked the winner for once. Regardless this is my favorite season next to the Outback and I look forward to the show tonight. |
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survivorscanner |
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Posts: 65 (05/11/08 4:57 AM) |
meshell ~ someone posted that card people said was a chariot card was the seraphim. and trixiego said the house of cards was about what happens until the
finals. i bet the real spoiler was only the witches card that survivorpheonix said was amanda and pavarti. the musical wicked says the green witch is not evil
just not liked but in the end she lives. afterwords survivorpheonix posted the other clues as distraction but the real clue's the first one. the green
witch is pavarti. so pavarti wins.
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realitygal |
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Posts: 72 (05/11/08 6:54 AM) Registered user |
This probably means nothing,but why is Parvati's panel so different than the others. The name is misspelled; it's an action profile and it has a
blue background. All the others are front shots with green bakgrounds. Is it possible Parv is out at 4?
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conorUNH |
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Posts: 65 (05/11/08 7:45 AM) |
um, doesn't the green witch die in the end? being the wicked witch of the west and all?
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meshell2241 |
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Posts: 2 (05/11/08 7:46 AM) |
I looked at both the Seraphim card and the chariot card though. The Seraphim card looks nothing like the card on the top of the pile, seriously. The only close
match is the Chariot. Did Phoenix for sure say it was the Seraphim card or is that speculation? Just wondering where you may have read that. Guess we will find
out hopefully after the finale...can't wait. Still hoping for a Cirie win, even though most of the spoilers I have checked out has said Parvati/Amanda in
the final 2. I just don't believe that Cirie and Parvati both will be stupid and put Amanda in the end game. That's giving their chance at $1 million
away and I do not seeing that happening. Amanda's only chance is getting that final immunity.
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redbuff |
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Posts: 12 (05/11/08 7:54 AM) |
the green witch does not die---with the help of the white witch she fakes melting and takes off with her lover Fiero. The green witch is not wicked, but
misunderstood, the white which is popular and beloved but really kind of a snob.
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