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Posts: 7526 (05/08/08 7:57 PM) Registered user |
xfactor99 wrote: OTTWTF5 |
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astroline |
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Posts: 1141 (05/08/08 7:59 PM) Registered user |
Thanks Warrior for the chart, I'll get this started and post my initial ratings...
Dabu Amanda - CPN3 Cirie - CPP4 Erik - OTTM5 Natalie - CPM3 Parvati - UTRM2 |
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Posts: 11538 (05/08/08 7:59 PM) Registered User |
GretchenIsMyGod wrote: I'd agree if it hadn't followed three massive blindsides in a row. Like Kathy said, immunity should always be up for negotiation; I wish more people
would use it for leverage; try and secure future safety instead of just a one-time deal.
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Posts: 5187 (05/08/08 8:00 PM) Registered User |
Erik's either OTTM5 or OTTN5, depending on whether you want to punish him with an N for making a ridiculously stupid move.
My choice would be OTTM. I wonder if any of the girls rate an N tone rating. Jurors are allowed to laugh at the dumb players but the four girls were rubbing it in to Erik at TC. That has to at least lean negative. |
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Oowatanite |
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Posts: 5188 (05/08/08 8:04 PM) Registered User |
astroline wrote: Wow, those are interesting ratings, Astro. I wouldn't give Cirie a P, and Parvati probably rates an N, but I would agree with the other ratings.
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Posts: 4658 (05/08/08 8:04 PM) |
All the ladies had a tinge of negativity, but were any of them full blown N? Nah. Looking at the charts, we haven't had a winner go UTR the episode before
the finale since Amber in ASS. 0_0
My gut still tells me Parv takes it unfortunately. 
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Oowatanite |
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Posts: 5189 (05/08/08 8:06 PM) Registered User |
OTTWTF5
Good rating for Erik, Speedy. |
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speedyforme |
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Posts: 7528 (05/08/08 8:06 PM) Registered user |
I don't think any of the girls were P, N or M, just neutral
Erik on the other hand, no clue... |
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Posts: 1511 (05/08/08 8:06 PM) Edgician |
Okay, posting early on the rare shot I have influence.
Erik is either Mixed if you feel he merited a tone or Neutral. He obviously can't be P, but he is not N. Nope. You don't hate him. You pity him. That's all. It frustrates you he couldn't be smarter. But he just wasn't. He's the sweet little brother you pick on. Can't hate him, don't fully respect him. Parvati wins. Remember China? any season? She got a little tinge of uh-oh, not looking for the idol. She got a possible vote against her and "could have gone home" think the fans. She "can't" beat Amanda. Take a breath. Think. That's the winner in the penultimate episode. To a T. Amanda. She's wily, manipulative but anyone with a brain sees through her. Hi, Erik. Cirie had great lines. (Jedi mind trick - awesome, Master.) The situation called for her to play along with Natalie. But it's Parvati's win. Is this the first time the viewers got to see people planning to completely fudge their emotional reactions at TC before it happens? I can't recall any scene like the two girls plotting to have some yell at Erik and the others build a way out. Obviously the first time all votes are shown. The best episodes, minus the finale, are the ones without suspense in the vote, I'll say it again. It's like the producers of Homicide Life On The Street said, to keep their rhythm, they had two eps every year that broke it, and those were always the ones people remembered. Erik had the ugliest shoes this side of the Minnesota Golden Gophers. What was that? He needs some Tyra. And from my view, deserves her! :-) FLF, I am either proud or ashamed to admit that I have every single episode of Who's The Boss? on VCR and am working on turning them into DVD's as they won't release more than season 1. But I also have the complete Miami Vice and Homicide, so what does that say? I never ever have gotten into a show in its first season. Once I know it's a hit and will last, I usually check it out. Watched Survivor first in season 6, Boss in season 3, Vice in season 1 summer reruns (remember those when it was cool?), and Homicide in season 2. Idol in season 6. Amazing Race season 7. If I'm ever going to watch episode one of anything live, I'll have to be in it I guess. Ratings tomorrow. Pretty good ideas, but doing a rewatch with my mom later. Michael
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Posts: 93 (05/08/08 8:06 PM) Registered user |
Amanda- CPM3
Cirie-CPM4 (Neither was positive nor negative) Natlie- CPM3 Parvati-UTRN2 (Another negative, and I'm a fan of hers...not too good for her, but not too bad...I guess) Erik-OTTN5 Interesting that (at least for me) that no one was shown in a positive light. Based on this episode it's Amanda/Cirie. But that's not what Edgic is about, so Parv is my winner's pick. |
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Posts: 13032 (05/08/08 8:11 PM) Registered User |
Parvati reminded me of Aras chilling on Exile Island while Cirie took care of strategic business back at camp.
She also cames out of it as the person least responsbile for betraying Erik. Loved Cirie tonight, just like I loved Amanda last weak. But the winner is rarely the star of the penultimate episode. How boots and key episodes were edited ep 1 - Parvati the star ep 3 - Cirie booted Yau-man (assist Parv) ep5 - Cirie booted Joel ep9 - Parvati booted Eliza ep10 - Parvati booted Ozzy (assist Cirie) ep11 - Natalie booted Jason ep12 - Amanda idoled Alexis (assist Parv) ep13 - Cirie booted Erik (assist Natalie) People democratic starring of the spotlight. Eeach of the Fave women has saved the others and contribted to their success. But Parv's game-changing Ozzy boot while trump the others and win fan votes (if Natalie goes next). |
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Posts: 543 (05/08/08 8:20 PM) Registered user |
GrenadeJumper85 wrote: Yeah, I go back and forth. But I can't get over "I have to win this time, plus the jury makeup." But then Amanda's edit is really strong and would they really show the winner saying, she "might" try find the HI? |
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Posts: 1142 (05/08/08 8:30 PM) Registered user |
Oowatanite wrote: Of course they're interesting, cos they're the first ones posted... I did think Cirie was P and Amanda was N, and both the others M. I think
everyone actually had tone this episode, which seems odd compared to now most of everyone else here saying this was a fairly toneless episode. I'll
probably change most of my ratings (and I think Amanda might be a 4 in visibility, she talked a lot at TC and none of that was counted on the chart, unless
I'm wrong Warrior?).
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Posts: 5504 (05/08/08 8:32 PM) Registered User |
AMAI:The eds have us just where they wants us, then. ;-) An ep so good, I watched it again. Don't, as a rule, do that. Parvati was pretty UTR this ep, but she had good lines in the Black Widow meeting and at TC. Not the stand-out,this-eps-all-about you lines, but nothing to hurt her. This ep was all about the women spinning their webs and trapping another dumb guy. It was Parvati who told us two eps ago, that they were going to spin the men around and around until they didn't know where they were going. Which was exactly this ep's theme. It was about all the women outsmarting another man and creating the first all-woman F-4. There was no bad ed for any of the women this week. And yes Eric is completely N, maybe OTTNN and I don't like double tone ratings! The Black Widows told us on the beach that Eric was a scuz for playing all of them. So N for sleeze and N for stupid. "The dumbest player in Survivor history, ever!" That's a pretty NN statement. Parvati is completely in the background. Just where the winner should be. Anyone doubting that are watching this thing one ep at a time and the eds will get you every time that way. |
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Posts: 23683 (05/08/08 8:36 PM) Registered user |
Erik inaugurates the OMGWTF rating. I reckon he should get a 5 visibility, with an MM Tone.
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craig |
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Posts: 13033 (05/08/08 8:36 PM) Registered User |
"I don't really need to look for the idol." What's that all about? She would have had that little moment of at-risk without that quote. Not just a low-key, background edit, but an arrogant, foolish move edit as well.There was no negative tone for Parvati here. She did NOT need the idol, and correctly trusted her girls. All that mattered was that Erk not be immune. Parv was cool to agree to be exiled as part of the plan while Amanda want on reward. She's a trooper, didn't whine, and managed to enjoy the situation. Remember when Parv stuck it out for 6+ hours to deny Jason immunity while Cirie quit for candy and Amanda had to pee? That immunity was far more stategically significant than getting the idol tonight, and yet people wouldn't give Parv any positive tone credit or Cirie any negative tone credit then. Erik (Macellas II) - OTTM5 Cirie - CP4 or CPP4 Amanda - CP3 or MOR3 Natalie - MORN3 (most negative women, she made some bitchy comments, don't believe in C's plan at first) Parvati - UTR2 or MOR2 I felt the editing of Erik as (1) a chronic liar and (2) the jury joining in on the fun, took away all the N from the girls. The girls laughed, the jury laughed, the universe laughed at Erik's bonehead play.
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Posts: 5505 (05/08/08 8:39 PM) Registered User |
All the ladies had a tinge of negativity, Nay, twas genius and triumph! N for pulling off some bodacious moves? This season is all about the females finally putting together a gamer tag-team. |
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Posts: 5506 (05/08/08 8:45 PM) Registered User |
craig, I agree (see 2 posts above).
Eric has to get an N. He was called on his serial betrayals as well as making a seriously not-positive move at TC. craig:Is that not N? Does saying "Oh you girls!" neutralize it all? mm, maybe. But, he did make deals, however lame, to boot Amanda and Natalie. He was derided before TC for being such a turncoat and backstabber. Does he get a simple OTT for being such a puppy? I'll say again, maybe. But, you can bet that he'd be seen as N by the jury if he'd kept the idol.
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Posts: 5192 (05/08/08 8:47 PM) Registered User |
fat little fingers wrote: N for laughing in his face from the moment he gave up immunity to the moment he ran down the path. N for ragging him on his "lies" and "manipulations", all the while hypocritically lying to his face. Did they take advantage of a young naive ice cream scooper ? Yep. But that's hardly positive. I would like to imagine Erik ripping into the F3 for their hypocrisy but he's too nice a guy to do that. Stupid, but nice. |
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Posts: 3982 (05/08/08 8:51 PM) |
Ratings After One Watch:
Amanda - CPM4 Cirie - CPM4 Erik - OTTMM5 Natalie - MORN3 Parvati - UTRN2 Winner: Cirie/Parvati Honestly, I'm leaning towards Cirie, despite her bad episode last week. She's been getting a much more traditional woman's edit, and she wasn't ignored for a long stretch of time like Parvati was after the swap. If Cirie were to ultimately lose to Parvati, I think they probably would have made Parvati look a little more intelligent. I know I'm sounding like a broken record, but there's too many minor moments that were shown that seem to be thrown in as reason for the audience to maybe dislike Parvati. Something about her win just wouldn't feel right. I mean, Cirie's edit isn't perfect, but it fits. Plus, it makes sense from a logical standpoint. If Cirie is to lose, there's basically two scenarios which could ensue. She either gets voted out next or she doesn't receive enough votes at the final tribal council. If she gets voted out before the final tribal council, then that's great, she's just like a bunch of other players that everyone thought could win at the final 4. The only problem with this is that you have Cirie, the lovable fan of the show who became enough of a favorite to win the car from her season. If she were to lose in such a way, then certainly she'd be editted similarly to her previous incarnation to as to explain why she was booted as a threat. But if she loses in the final 3, then why show so many scenes of her being the mastermind and being in control, like Todd and Earl and Yul before her, while still keeping her under-the-radar enough to cast doubt. Honestly, at this point, I think there is a strong possibility that we may have a tie. I'm 90% certain that Parvati/Cirie are going to be in the final together, either final 3 or final 2, so there's basically three possible scenarios: Amanda/Cirie/Parvati Eliza - Cirie Ozzy - Amanda Jason - ??? (possibly Cirie is her statement about being a fan at the beginning of the season carries on) James - Amanda Alexis - Cirie Erik - ??? (See Jason) Natalie - Parvati Probably not gonna happen. Cirie/Natalie/Parvati Eliza - Cirie Ozzy - Cirie Jason - Parvati James - Parvati Alexis - Natalie Erik - Cirie Amanda - Parvati Highly possible. Cirie/Parvati Eliza - Cirie Ozzy - Cirie Jason - Cirie James - Parvati Alexis - Parvati Erik - Cirie Amanda - Parvati Natalie - Parvati At this point though, I'm just making random speculation. They both have extremely good arguments in their favors.
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