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tullfan2		#4261	[-]
Posts: 2632 (05/04/08 4:40 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	It's probably one of 2 scenarios where Erik gives away the HII. 1. It's Parvati/Amanda vs. Natalie/Cirie with Erik as the swing vote. He offers up the immunity necklace in exchange for a Final 3 deal. 2. It's Erik/Natalie vs. Parvati/Amanda/Cirie and Erik offers up the immunity necklace to oen oe P/A/C to get that person to vote along with them.
survivorwhatever		#4262	[-]
Posts: 3 (05/04/08 5:50 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Why does it have to be Erick giving imunity necklace away?? Here are my thoughts.. Amanda or Nat win imunity. Ceri and parv talk nat /amanda to give it to erick to keep him safe so they can vote nat/amanda off. Big blunder on who ever gave it to erick.
DevilChild255		#4263	[-]
Posts: 158 (05/04/08 7:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	^^ Oh man, that got a laugh out of me. Amanda and Nat have shown that they have the intelligence NOT to do something as stupid as giving away immunity. Amanda was the target last TC, you think she feels safe? Hell no! And the previews show that Nat wants to "bitchslap him like his mother" (something to that effect) ... no way in hell she'd give immunity to him. But damn, it'd be funny if Erik got suckered into giving up individual immunity just to get his ass kicked off.
AnomyBC		#4264	[-]
Posts: 4696 (05/04/08 7:47 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If Erik gives up immunity, I think he believes he is forcing them to vote out Amanda. If he wanted to force them to vote out Amanda, wouldn't the best thing to do be to KEEP immunity? Anyway, I'd love to see him give up the immunity necklace, because that would be hilarious, but I really don't think he'd be that stupid. The only person who might be stupid enough to do that is Jason. Maybe the girls just beat him up and take it?
urrout		#4265	[-]
Posts: 1616 (05/04/08 7:51 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Does Parvati still have to betray Nat yet (per Jason's interview) or does blindsiding Alexis extend to Nat? I don't remember Jason ever mentioning Parvati betraying Alexis or Alexis and Nat, just Nat.
jacneald		#4266	[-]
Posts: 784 (05/04/08 8:20 PM) Registered User Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	If Erik gives up immunity, it will only be because someone makes him believe he part of a blindside. So ANYGIRL says Erik, they are voting me out. You have immunity. Give it to me secretly and whoever me & you vote for will be gone. ANYGIRL can sell it to him. Erik knows the track records of blindsides this game. He loves the game (and Jeff). He gets to feel in control. It seems like a good strategy to him even though we will all be screaming at the TV that he is a dumbass. Dumbest move yet. I can totally see him falling for this, but not much else. Edited to add: Maybe I should have clarified for gatekeeper- HIDDEN IMMUNITY IDOL. IF he goes to Exile IF the HII is hidden again IF he finds it IF he is dumb enough to tell ANYGIRL Wow. All these seasons of Survivor and I never knew that the Immunity Necklace could not be given in secret. Gatekeeper, it's a good thing you are here to point out these things out. Last Edited By: jacneald 05/05/08 12:31 AM. Edited 1 times.
shoeless rye		#4267	[-]
Posts: 4978 (05/04/08 9:32 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	We're talking about the Immunity necklace, not a hidden immunity idol. You can't give the necklace secretly. I don't know how one could convince Erik to give up the necklace. I mean in order to do that you'd need two people imploring him to do so - and if that was the case, those two people and his vote together could boot whomever they wanted. It HAS to be something different. Maybe he'll go to EXI this week and then fake that he found immunity and try and prove it by giving up his immunity necklace(via the comp) to Natalie. I dunno. Last Edited By: shoeless rye 05/04/08 9:39 PM. Edited 1 times.
mfrimley		#4268	[-]
Posts: 678 (05/04/08 9:35 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	This may not mean anything, but I thought James might have hinted that Erik will end up being hosed the way Jason was. Alexis: I think Natalie is the most underestimated and… I don't want to say conniving… very persuasive. I think having such little airtime until this point, people don't really get to see her full range of her competitiveness, and she's very intelligent. James: The fact that Jason's kind of young. Alexis: He's a kid and she's a woman. James: The children got taken to school. That's pretty much what it was. Maybe it was just a figure of speech, but the fact that he pluralized it makes me think he may be including Erik as one of the "children."
The island gatekeeper		#4269	[-]
Posts: 119 (05/04/08 9:35 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	So ANYGIRL says Erik, they are voting me out. You have immunity. Give it to me secretly and whoever me & you vote for will be gone. ANYGIRL can sell it to him. Actually jacneald you're fucking dumb since giving normal immunity is done BEFORE the votes are cast so therefore if Erik gives it up then he can be voted against
urrout		#4270	[-]
Posts: 1618 (05/04/08 10:03 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	mfrimley wrote: This may not mean anything, but I thought James might have hinted that Erik will end up being hosed the way Jason was. Alexis: I think Natalie is the most underestimated and… I don't want to say conniving… very persuasive. I think having such little airtime until this point, people don't really get to see her full range of her competitiveness, and she's very intelligent. James: The fact that Jason's kind of young. Alexis: He's a kid and she's a woman. James: The children got taken to school. That's pretty much what it was. Maybe it was just a figure of speech, but the fact that he pluralized it makes me think he may be including Erik as one of the "children." If Nat pulled that off then she would have had 3 great plays in the game. Convincing Jason to give up in the IC, convincing him to not play the HII and then convincing Eric to give up the necklace. I would hope her edit would have been alot better even if she loses.
sunflower101		#4271	[-]
Posts: 1205 (05/04/08 10:05 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	AnomyBC wrote: If Erik gives up immunity, I think he believes he is forcing them to vote out Amanda. If he wanted to force them to vote out Amanda, wouldn't the best thing to do be to KEEP immunity? Anyway, I'd love to see him give up the immunity necklace, because that would be hilarious, but I really don't think he'd be that stupid. The only person who might be stupid enough to do that is Jason. Maybe the girls just beat him up and take it? Not if he believes the target is Natalie or Amanda. He would be giving up immunity to force them to vote off Amanda, instead of Natalie. Erik not considering the fact that would just make them vote off him.
Relynn		#4272	[-]
Posts: 472 (05/04/08 10:08 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Maybe Erik gives the IN to Amanda so that Amanda will forgive him...
mfrimley		#4273	[-]
Posts: 679 (05/04/08 10:13 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	The previews showed Erik proposing a final 3 of himself, Cirie, and Parvati. So if he thinks he has a solid alliance with them, and they can't agree on whether to vote out Natalie or Amanda, he might think he can get his way by giving the necklace to Natalie. Everybody's been saying how they don't want to face Amanda, so I could see him naively assuming there was no way they'd keep her over him. That would seem to fit the sceculation, but I'll believe it when I see it.
sunflower101		#4274	[-]
Posts: 1206 (05/04/08 11:07 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I went back and looked at some of these interviews , because people where picking up some interesting spoilers from them (such as, the obvious james saying he is rooting for amanda). I am suprised nobody has pointed this one out. Of course this might not mean anything. In an interview Ozzy was asked about Parvati's decision to side with Alexis, Natalie, Jason, and Cire come back to bite her. How would it come back to bite her at all if she is in the final 2/3 unless she loses. http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-ozzy-lusth-talks-about-his-survivor-micronesia-blindside-6958.php Reality TV World: Do you think Parvati's decision to side with Alexis, Natalie, Jason and Cirie will come back to bite her? Do you think she would have been stronger sticking with the couples alliance? Ozzy: Yeah, I do actually.
ProbstFan123		#4275	[-]
Posts: 10105 (05/04/08 11:13 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	That's just Ozzy being a Bitter Betty. Even if he thinks Parvati loses in the final 2, is he saying that she would have been the winner if she stuck with the couples alliance? Because that's the only way she could do better than 2nd place. And if so, then Ozzy would be the loser in either scenario, so what does he care? If anything it makes me think he's bitter at the final outcome and is venting steam. Last Edited By: ProbstFan123 05/04/08 11:18 PM. Edited 1 times.
Relynn		#4276	[-]
Posts: 474 (05/04/08 11:17 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	sunflower101 wrote: I went back and looked at some of these interviews , because people where picking up some interesting spoilers from them (such as, the obvious james saying he is rooting for amanda). I am suprised nobody has pointed this one out. Of course this might not mean anything. In an interview Ozzy was asked about Parvati's decision to side with Alexis, Natalie, Jason, and Cire come back to bite her. How would it come back to bite her at all if she is in the final 2/3 unless she loses. http://www.realitytvworld.com/news/exclusive-ozzy-lusth-talks-about-his-survivor-micronesia-blindside-6958.php Reality TV World: Do you think Parvati's decision to side with Alexis, Natalie, Jason and Cirie will come back to bite her? Do you think she would have been stronger sticking with the couples alliance? Ozzy: Yeah, I do actually. That might be wishful thinking on Ozzy's part, but what's interesting is that Eliza said something similar A: I think that Parvati's game could either be really great for her or blow up in her face. She's making all these side alliances with people, but these are the people who she's ultimately going to have to vote out if she wants to end up in front of the jury. Personally, I don't think it's ridiculous for people to be like you know what. Yeah you backstabbed all these people and got to the end, but that doesn't mean that we should necessarily give you the million. If there is someone here who has backstabbed less, and gotten to the end too.. (Who knows)
Katy Carney		#4277	[-]
Posts: 1057 (05/04/08 11:23 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Except that those people who got to the end "without backstabbing", specifically Amanda, only got there because of Parvati's scheming. That's why it's a stupid argument to begin with. The success of Amanda's game was completely dependent on the moves that Parvati has made, aligning with the fans, backstabbing Ozzy, all of it worked to benefit Amanda. It's why Parvati should win over Amanda. She's the one who worked for it.
SerenaS2S		#4278	[-]
Posts: 77 (05/04/08 11:34 PM) Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	ProbstFan123 wrote: That's just Ozzy being a Bitter Betty. Even if he thinks Parvati loses in the final 2, is he saying that she would have been the winner if she stuck with the couples alliance? Because that's the only way she could do better than 2nd place. And if so, then Ozzy would be the loser in either scenario, so what does he care? If anything it makes me think he's bitter at the final outcome and is venting steam. PROBSTFAN123. STFU U REPUNGANT, ANNOYING LITTLE FUCK. FIND SOMETHING CONTRUCTIVE TO DO WITH YOUR LIFE.
ProbstFan123		#4279	[-]
Posts: 10106 (05/04/08 11:35 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	I'm not going anywhere, Serena. So you and me can keep tussling for as long as you want, babe.
Relynn		#4280	[-]
Posts: 475 (05/04/08 11:44 PM) Registered user Reply Quote More Recent Posts Message Connection Block Invite	Katy Carney wrote: Except that those people who got to the end "without backstabbing", specifically Amanda, only got there because of Parvati's scheming. That's why it's a stupid argument to begin with. The success of Amanda's game was completely dependent on the moves that Parvati has made, aligning with the fans, backstabbing Ozzy, all of it worked to benefit Amanda. It's why Parvati should win over Amanda. She's the one who worked for it. How did Parv's moves benefit Amanda. Parv's "new alliances" almost got Amanda voted out. It in no ways benefited Amanda, and made it harder for Amanda to get to the end of the game. Now, sure Amanda might have wanted to make a move against Ozzy but perhaps Amanda would have preferred to do it in a way that ensured that she was still in control and in the majority.. Parv's moves "didn't benefit Amanda, they positioned Parvati.. Which is fine, but the point is that inspite of Parv's moves, Amanda still managed to get to the end, and with a lot less people angry with her. Last Edited By: Relynn 05/04/08 11:54 PM. Edited 2 times.

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